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[Neff]

Konami started their long spiral downward when the logo changed.

Normally it'd almost sound like superstition to me, but in my case it was actually true. They didn't release one game I wholeheartedly loved after the logo change. MGS3 was the first in a long line of 'well, it's nice I guess' software, compared to the usual unmissable, high quality gaming experiences the old logo was synonymous with.

 

[JoJoSono]

I love all the pointless "boycott" posts people post in relation to Konami.

"Oh after MGS5 I'm done"

They don't have anything after MGS5 and you're not showing any conviction on your part. An actual boycott or show of anything actually requires some sort of sacrifice and commitment. it's easy to say you're going to never give Konami money when you easily add "oh after I get the last thing I want from them".

 

[Myggen]

Not the best article, but I agree with the sentiment.

 

[Arxisz]

I could care less about Silent hills or even MGS for that matter. The thing that hurts me the most is no ZOE3.

True'er words have never been spoken...

 

[Kvik]

I love all the pointless "boycott" posts people post in relation to Konami.

"Oh after MGS5 I'm done"

They don't have anything after MGS5 and you're not showing any conviction on your part. An actual boycott or show of anything actually requires some sort of sacrifice and commitment. it's easy to say you're going to never give Konami money when you easily add "oh after I get the last thing I want from them".

Maybe "boycott" wasn't the right word to use.

I too, don't really want to give any more money to Konami, but I would like to at least honour KojiPro's work on the game. I think they've done an excellent job on the game so far and they deserve all the recognition they can get. If nothing else, my intention in buying the game is to reward KojiPro.

 

[Tuffty]

- PES is mediocre since the end of the PS2 gen

Prior to last year's game? Perhaps. It just so happens that things eventually clicked and PES 2015 is not only one of the best in the series but one of the best sports games I've ever played and from what I see, everyone who's played it will agree. I will concede it's about the only thing to care about from Konami lately which is a sad state of affairs.

 

[RipperGrim]

I love all the pointless "boycott" posts people post in relation to Konami.

"Oh after MGS5 I'm done"

They don't have anything after MGS5 and you're not showing any conviction on your part. An actual boycott or show of anything actually requires some sort of sacrifice and commitment. it's easy to say you're going to never give Konami money when you easily add "oh after I get the last thing I want from them".

Kojima and Kojipro have requested from fans to still buy MGSV because they still get paid for it and they still care about it, for fans to boycott that title is just being blind and silly.

 

[vazel]

I had no idea Tron Bonne was going for that much. I'm going to sell my copy.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

So are they selling off MGS or are we going to see MGS6 on pachinko machines?

Metal Gear Rising 2 slot machine developed by Ninja Theory.

 

[Nephtis]

As long as someone can pick up on the Zone of Enders, MGS, and Dance Dance Revolution IPs, I don't care for anything else. Konami could burn to the ground and I would not miss them.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I love all the pointless "boycott" posts people post in relation to Konami.

"Oh after MGS5 I'm done"

They don't have anything after MGS5 and you're not showing any conviction on your part. An actual boycott or show of anything actually requires some sort of sacrifice and commitment. it's easy to say you're going to never give Konami money when you easily add "oh after I get the last thing I want from them".

Because the ones that worked hard on it need to be forgotten? I wanna know what Kojima made. That's all there is to it. It's a work of art to me and I wanna experience it. Can you lend me your copy when you're done? That'll be the best way to boycott, right?

 

[Karu]

Because the ones that worked hard on it need to be forgotten? I wanna know what Kojima made. That's all there is to it. It's a work of art to me and I wanna experience it. Can you lend me your copy when you're done? That'll be the best way to boycott, right?

But that's the sacrifice he speaks of. Letting Kojima down to punish Konami. Boycotting them after that, means nothing (if they indeed release not much else after that, that is desirable to you/portion of the market).

 

[Bio]

I love all the pointless "boycott" posts people post in relation to Konami.

"Oh after MGS5 I'm done"

They don't have anything after MGS5 and you're not showing any conviction on your part. An actual boycott or show of anything actually requires some sort of sacrifice and commitment. it's easy to say you're going to never give Konami money when you easily add "oh after I get the last thing I want from them".

I dunno, if you're boycotting in large part because of the Kojima stuff then it sort of makes sense to wait until after the last Kojima game to start it.

 

[Hans.Gruber]

I actually don't care about who Konami is hiring/firing or what games they remove/put in the PS Store. It's against the sprit of capitalism and free enterprise what some people are demanding here.
No company can be forced to listen to their customers, but the free market has a great mechanism to deal with this kind of behaviour by companies: lower demand and profits.

But TBH if MGS5 is only half as good as it seems most of the "boycott Konami" guys will not follow thru anyways.

 

[SPCTRE]

I could care less about Silent hills or even MGS for that matter. The thing that hurts me the most is no ZOE3.

 

[CTLance]

I'm also one of those tinfoil hatters that believes Konami went down the shitter when they abandoned their old logo. There must have been some witchcraft involved.

I will never forgive them for killing Hudson Soft though. That was just evil.

 

[lupinko]

What's the big deal?

Just wait for the P.T. Pachinko machine.

Pachinko? Konami is straight up Casino Slots Real Gambling. The head of Konami is basically salivating at Abe trying to make gambling legal in Japan still.

 

[Pestilence11]

That last 'fuck you' being lower case where the others are capital is really bugging me.

Finally, someone has said what I think every time I see that picture.

Also, fuck Konami and I'm glad I didn't delete P.T.

 

[takriel]

We people are pretty stupid. Always going on about how we won't support a company in the future because we don't "like" them anymore. But as soon as something cool is unveiled by said company, we tend to immediately forget everything bad we said about them. It's just how we are I guess.

 

[MrBadger]

We people are pretty stupid. Always going on about how we won't support a company in the future because we don't "like" them anymore. But as soon as something cool is unveiled by said company, we tend to immediately forget everything bad we said about them. It's just how we are I guess.

Well the main reason people don't like Konami is because they're cancelling or not making the games people want. If they released good games or revealed cool stuff, there wouldn't be as much of a problem.

 

[Fernando Fernandez]

New Suikoden and all is forgiven.

 

[lazer_bean]

Maybe "boycott" wasn't the right word to use.

I too, don't really want to give any more money to Konami, but I would like to at least honour KojiPro's work on the game. I think they've done an excellent job on the game so far and they deserve all the recognition they can get. If nothing else, my intention in buying the game is to reward KojiPro.

Kojima and Kojipro have requested from fans to still buy MGSV because they still get paid for it and they still care about it, for fans to boycott that title is just being blind and silly.

I think it's just that you guys really want to play MGSV and at the same time feel bad aout giving Konami your money.

So you say you' ll buy the game to support Kojima and after that it's over. Bye Konami. Unless there's DLC for MGSV (to support Kojima). After that it's done, bye Konami.

I'm not saying it's wrong or right by the way (to boycott or not) I'm just annoyed at reading so many times "I'm buying MGSV just to support Kojima and afer that I'm done with Konami

 

[ninanuam]

I'm still angry, we still haven't gotten Zone of the Enders 3

and I'm still angry that Castlevania and Contra never really got well crafted modern iterations, that LOS shit can fuck right off.

Thing is though companies change, they move on, I don't think Konami started as a videogame company, and they are not beholden to gamers to stay one if they don't see profits in it.

 

[erotic grandpa]

We people are pretty stupid. Always going on about how we won't support a company in the future because we don't "like" them anymore. But as soon as something cool is unveiled by said company, we tend to immediately forget everything bad we said about them. It's just how we are I guess.

Pretty sure this won't happen this time around, though. Most of the people who made Konami, uh, Konami, have either left ages ago or are being shoved out.

I don't think people will necessarily clamor for a Kojima-less Metal Gear Solid VI, as much as Konami (and some people in these threads) seem to think so. Lords of Shadow turned out alright without Igarashi, but from the stories that came out about MercurySteam and the quality of LoS2, it seems like that was more a lucky fluke than anything.

The promises of new Metal Gear and Silent Hill games going forward seem more like PR lip service than anything concrete.

 

[RipperGrim]

I think it's just that you guys really want to play MGSV and at the same time feel bad aout giving Konami your money.

So you say you' ll buy the game to support Kojima and after that it's over. Bye Konami. Unless there's DLC for MGSV (to support Kojima). After that it's done, bye Konami.

I'm not saying it's wrong or right by the way (to boycott or not) I'm just annoyed at reading so many times "I'm buying MGSV just to support Kojima and afer that I'm done with Konami

Literally the only games I have bought from konami is Silent Hill PS2 collection and the main Metal Gear Solid games, I would be boycotting them no matter what now since they seem intent on running them to the ground.

Also people say they want to boycott the Konami because of the way they treated Kojima and his team, since that same team has specifically asked fans not to boycot because it affects them it's literally counter productive to what the fans intend when they say they will boycott konami, they want Konami to realize the mistakes they have made (The last best selling game they make is the one made by the people they fired).

 

[Sephiroth87]

I think it's just that you guys really want to play MGSV and at the same time feel bad aout giving Konami your money.

So you say you' ll buy the game to support Kojima and after that it's over. Bye Konami. Unless there's DLC for MGSV (to support Kojima). After that it's done, bye Konami.

I'm not saying it's wrong or right by the way (to boycott or not) I'm just annoyed at reading so many times "I'm buying MGSV just to support Kojima and afer that I'm done with Konami

But even "boycotting" MGSV would not mean anything, since Konami is done anyway, it's doubtful they'll change their minds about everything if MGS sells...

 

[bigol]

and I'm still angry that Castlevania and Contra never really got well crafted modern iterations, that LOS shit can fuck right off.

Thing is though companies change, they move on, I don't think Konami started as a videogame company, and they are not beholden to gamers to stay one if they don't see profits in it.

KONAMI was a jukebox rental/repair business in Toyonaka, Osaka founded in 1969 by the current chairman Kagemasa Kozuki.

 

[Ganondorfo]

Nope Konami doesn't suck because they made Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and someone who created that game can never suck.

 

[dark10x]

Nope Konami doesn't suck because they made Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and someone who created that game can never suck.

They WERE one of the best publishers ever for nearly 20 years...but it's clear that the Konami of today is nothing like that Konami.

 

[EVA UNIT 01]

True'er words have never been spoken...

No ZOE 3.
There is no god.

 

[MrBadger]

Nope Konami doesn't suck because they made Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and someone who created that game can never suck.

A lot of my favourite games were made by Sega.

 

[Ganondorfo]

They WERE one of the best publishers ever for nearly 20 years...but it's clear that the Konami of today is nothing like that Konami.

Konami is the "John Carpenter" of the gaming industry, made so many masterpieces in the 80s and 90s and also in the beginning of the 00 and then didnt care anymore. It happens to the best of them. Although Nintendo is the only one that keeps doing excellent stuff from their beginning days.

 

[bigol]

Managers directing KONAMI suck,but they still have some talent developers left. Talking about Pes they still have Seabass, Greyhound and the new boy Masuda is showing to be a good developer too.

The problem is the budget they give to Pes Team is so small the output can't be better than that. This really shows they don't have a clue or really don't want to invest in games anymore.

Pes maybe will survive because it's still a cash cow (4 million copies sold every year) but if they continue to invest so little money on it, it will quickly die.

 

[hiex_]

For once I agree with something Kotaku publishes.

Konami have really messed up. I can't really fathom what they're up to, or why they'd do this.

 

[bigol]

This is what they are proud of nowadays

http://www.konami-digital-entertain...ics/2015/0507/?cm_sp=01-_-topics-_-20150507-e

"JIKKYOU PAWAFURU PUROYAKYU" Mobile Game
Surpasses 10 Million Downloads in Its First Half Year!

Mobile games.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

In lieu of all of Konami's decisions lately, I have cancelled my preorder for MGSV. They clearly are lashing out at Kojima and fail to recognize they are angering fans like me. They need to come clean on what is going on and defend these decisions to the fans. They owe us that at the very least.

 

[TheSlySoul]

This is what they are proud of nowadays

http://www.konami-digital-entertain...ics/2015/0507/?cm_sp=01-_-topics-_-20150507-e



Mobile games.

That and gambling.
Sega profiting the same way.

 

[snap0212]

Man, I've been kind of out of the gaming business for some time and come back to see many things going down the drain. I didn't even know it was possible to completely delete a game off of the store - I always thought they could just disable the possibility to find it via search. Kind of bad that this might lead to a situation where people simply cannot re-download games they've bought in the past.

 

[Skinpop]

That and gambling.
Sega profiting the same way.

and gyms. konami gyms are everywhere in japan.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

We people are pretty stupid. Always going on about how we won't support a company in the future because we don't "like" them anymore. But as soon as something cool is unveiled by said company, we tend to immediately forget everything bad we said about them. It's just how we are I guess.

Besides P.T. (and MGS V I guess, even though I don't personally care much about it), when was the last time Konami unveiled something cool?

 

[Johndoey]

"I refuse to buy anything else from a company that has nothing else on their release slate", truly you all have such impressive fortitude. Pat youselves on the back.

 

[TheSlySoul]

and gyms. konami gyms are everywhere in japan.

Huh, looks likes a YMCA.

As people always state on this kinds of threads, konami just dont care anymore about the gaming side ....
They make too much money on other frontends so... =/

Pretty much, lesser effort but for the same profit.
Japanese game development is a shell of what it once was. Konami and Sega are barely there and Capcom needs partnerships to stay afloat.

 

[Pacotera]

As people always state on this kinds of threads, konami just dont care anymore about the gaming side ....

They make too much money on other frontends so... =/

 

[Raysod]

I love Kojima with all my heart as a game director/designer for the work he done for Metal Gear (I am a huge huge fan of the franchise), but from a business point of view i think Kojima has great issues….

Konami created and funded Kojima Productions so that Kojima can produce great games, and after 2011 Konami also funded Kojima to create Fox Engine and go into game license business, and Kojima/Kojima Productions failed to deliver in both fronts…

After all the millions of dollars that were invested on Kojima Productions we only got four games (since 2011) that use Fox Engine:

Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 (2013)
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes (2014)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 (2014)
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (2015)

Also Kojima Productions gave us only MGSV Ground Zeroes in 4 years since 2011 (and some hd remakes and metal gear collections)…

And MGSV Ground Zeroes was a failure in sales, compaired with other MGS games…

I cannot imagine how much money Konami lost on Kojima in developing Fox Engine and Metal Gear V all these years, especially if we compare it with western studios that deliver a AAA game every two/two and a half years…

And I cannot imagine how Kojima will function outside Konami, when he must work (and deliver games) in very strict timetables…

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Can someone capitalise the last fuck you cause every time I see that image it annoys me (OCD?!)

Konami really are getting worse. What's next on the piss of customers agenda.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

If only they used Fox Engine for Suikoden 2 remake :'(
Or just revive the franchise

 

[Raysod]

Demos can still be redownloaded if they're on your download list.

(Apologies if I came off as harsh, I just feel strongly about this)

I share the same feelings with you in the matter, but I try to think and decode what is happening from a business point of view…

As a gamer I feel very disappointed…

And no I didn’t take your comments as harsh

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

Klepek is just reiterating what people have been saying about the Konami and P.T. situation for a while now. I don't see how he offers anything new aside from publishing the collective grievance on a major gaming news site.

In essence, it's a eulogy for P.T. and that's really it.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

As long as someone can pick up on the Zone of Enders, MGS, and Dance Dance Revolution IPs, I don't care for anything else. Konami could burn to the ground and I would not miss them.

I bet they'll sell off most of the game IP that they can't turn into profitable mobile/gambling games. But just cause they can't doesn't mean someone isn't going to try and make Dance Dance Revolution exclusively for iOS.

 

[PooBone]

Kotaku's right.


Fuck Konami.