It's too specific considering they have past-gen prices too.
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Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5 to be full priced release ($60-PS4/ONE,$40-360/PS3)
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It's too specific considering they have past-gen prices too.
Yup, good luck with this one Activision.
Darryl M R
Member
Going to wait for the obvious Christmas sale for this game like others. I can't even say downgrade because the first pictures of this game have been terrible. They can only go up from here.
TheSlySoul
Member
Puddy Squad was $40 release so not really.
I spent $22 which was worth it at that price.
Sixty. Dollars.
Sixty.
I don't think I would buy this game for $22. Maybe $5 (that is a hard maybe).
It looks worse than Tony Hawk Ride. IDK how they did that.
El_Cinefilo
Member
Game Informer mentioned it being "full price" too.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
I think the problem isn't with reviving this particular series since people could say the same if a new Skate was announced to be developed by a Dev with a horrible track record. I think the problem is that they picked the worst possible Devs to give it to considering Robomodo fucked up the last 3 Tony Hawk games they made and are responsible for the long time it's been since we've had a title with all the damage they did to the I.P. putting out shovelware games.
This is from the Wikipedia page on Tony Hawk:Shred -
"The initial price for the game was $120 for a bundle including the skateboard controller and approximately $50 for the stand-alone game. During its first week on sale in the United States, the game sold 3,000 copies;[2][3] combined with the negative reception, the Tony Hawk franchise was put on hold"
It seems they haven't learned that you can't charge full price for a game that's not of the same quality as a full price title.
The problem is they've had 3 chances to grow, and the only thing they've grown is the ire of their community for putting out shit games that ruined the Tony Hawk I.P.
Spot on. If they want to harken to old days, make the gameplay and quality of the game the same as it was in the glory days, with the logical modern improvements we've come to expect like higher resolution and such, not a complete re-work of the core fundamentals of the game like Robomodo has done with all their Tony Hawk games.
Tony Hawk: Ride - Garbage shovelware peripheral gimmick
Tony Hawk: Shred - Garbage shovelware peripheral gimmick #2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater HD - Great idea thrown in the trash with horrible moon physics that are nothing like the game its supposed to be based on.
Agreed, at least wait until we see footage.
I feel bad for the developers, must be awful to see your work ridiculed and dismissed almost instantly.
The "shitty price" is representative of where the industry has come since THPS games were considered full price games (note, not THUG or anything after). The THPS redux last gen didn't get bumped out at full price. It's a question of identity. What is this game?
If they want a true current-gen full $60 title they need to outline some pretty awesome features. What sort of innovations can we expect? Online play of some sort is a given, but we've heard nothing about it. So far the only new feature announced is the ability to fire projectiles. Is that worth an extra $40-$45 bucks? Probably not. The reaction to it so far, at least here on GAF, has been fairly negative. THPS4 came out in 2002 and that's the only new thing we've really got to go on. Please, forgive those who aren't in bunches over that.
OK, so new features are out right now. It's clear they're going for a "return to form" anyway. So what then? A ton of levels with lots of objectives and secrets, plus a multitude of unique skaters would suffice. In a product like this, content is king. However, nothing like this was discussed. And then you remember it's Activision. Recent output in other series' points toward it including a small handful of levels at launch and then you have to buy more. It might not be that way, but I'm not holding my breath for them to change their recent strategy for this game.
Aside from a copious amount of levels and skaters, I don't know how you fill a skateboarding game in the THPS style with $60 worth of content these days without revolutionizing the genre. A story-based Campaign would help but even that feels old-hat at this point and doesn't fit the THPS mold. Online features like some sort of MMO-style skate park with competitions and events would be cool. But I'm just making that up now. Nothing -- I repeat -- nothing except the projectile firing move has been revealed as a new feature.
Being OK with $60 is -- and I'm understating this -- asking a lot for what's on the table at this point. Maybe people will get more excited when we get a clearer picture of what's to come.
How's that for a rant
Vincent Grayson
Member
That's what tends to happen when your track record is wall-to-wall shit.
The Albatross
Member
This game is dead.
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I'm confused, why would I not expect a THPS to be full price? What's going on here?
AdventureMike
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装甲悪鬼村正;163033312 said:
Because several individuals have made up their mind months in advance about a game that hasn't even shown off a proper gameplay video yet.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
They made up their mind using past experiences from the people making this game so I'd say thats a good indication. If a dev has made nothing but shit games and gets handed the license to make a game that you love you're gonna know to expect the worse. It'd be different if it were a new Dev that was yet to prove themselves but Robomodo have proved their incompetence 3 times. Unless you have a reason why the game will be great and have some proof behind it then you have less of an idea what you're talking about than those people you're trying to look down on from your high horse.
The developers have a shit track record. Game already looks like shit graphically. Not a good indication of quality so far.
There's a little something called a track record. I hope you aren't in charge of hiring employees anywhere.
Probably because people are judging on what we have only been given so far, which is graphic quality.
Cross-gen titles costing $20 more because they ticked off a resolution and AA box is...
Gentleman Jack
Member
This was the case for the early amazon pages on Watch_Dogs as well (at 90 bucks IIRC) and people lost their shit back then, too. Just thinking this is more of the same.
AdventureMike
Member
No high horse at all. I'm simply saying that it seems too early to judge a game that we haven't seen in motion yet based upon an admittedly poor screenshot. The game has been marked for release later this year, which gives them ample time to update their visuals.
The biggest reason I bring up a gameplay video is because the biggest complaint to their track record was the physics used in THPS:HD. This is the only entry to the THPS series that Robomodo has developed that didn't involve some wacky skateboarding peripheral included. Tony Hawk's Ride had multiple issues but ultimately, the most cited flaw that I've ever seen is that people didn't want to use the stupid peripheral. Tony Hawk's Shred suffered a similar fate, especially on the back of the legacy of Ride.
I am disagreeing with the jump to assume that Robomodo potentially learned nothing from their previous entry in the series based on an ugly screenshot or that it should be any surprise that a complete game will be discounted as the remaster was. The doom and gloom of the last three threads regarding this feels unwarranted until we see a gameplay video closer to the actual release date.
Fbh
Member
The extra hardware of current gen consoles will allow you to shoot even more projectiles!!!!
ugly screenshots. We've seen more than one screen. Graphically this game looks like crap. Game could still be fun but they have a lot to prove.
Atomic Playboy
Member
Maybe this is all just an elaborate prank. Like they're sitting around at Activision thinking of ways to collectively screw with people. "OK, we tell 'em we're developing a new Tony Hawk game, but it's being made by the same people who drove the series into the ground, set it on fire and buried it. Help me whip up some 'screenshots' by cutting and pasting these old magazine clippings over some generic backdrop my kid made as a Quake 3 map. And make some outlandish claim, like firing projectiles or something else that no one could possibly find appealing. Yeah, give it a page on Amazon and tell people it's going to be $60!" It's like performance art.
AdventureMike
Member
Absolutely. Never said we shouldn't be looking at the game (or any game for that matter) with due skepticism.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
I agree that we should give the benefit of the doubt when so little is known about a game. Many times people get a first impression of a game that is very far from the way the game actually turns out and I hate when a game I love is ill-received due to ignorance rather than the game itself being deserving of said bad-rep. The reason I'm so doubtful is that they''ve screwed up 3 times when they were assigned a game thats gameplay first. They could get a pass on the assets if the core gameplay is there, and your point is that we can't judge the gameplay yet since we don't definitively know how it'll turn out. But I truly believe it will be another case of them screwing up by trying to make their mark on the series rather than sticking to the roots like they claim to be. If they really wanted to stick to the roots of the series then they should be focusing on nailing the gameplay and not adding useless features to the game to make it something its not. Their terrible track record is my reasoning for why I have no faith and it's easier to believe something that has failed 3 times will fail again than it is to believe that the person responsible for the 3 previous failures will be capable this time. If you make a big mistake like that you should learn the first time, not the fourth.
Patapwn
Member
Because you saw the Activision logo
Tizoc
Member
Of course it'll have DLC, tons or EVEN a handful.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Wow, the screenshots look like horrible fan made photoshop memes
TheSlySoul
Member
I think because they confirmed 9 courses only. You can probably beat it in 3 hours.
But yeah, we shouldn't be surprised with 4 hour games getting retail pricing since it happened last gen.
MMaRsu
Banned
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=as_li_s...&url=search-alias=aps&linkId=M3MGFR22CXLU4YXC
whelp, it looked like a budget title.
Link was gotten from Wario64
Only has 9 levels, last gen visuals, robomodo developed...
A BIG NO THANKS
MMaRsu
Banned
then wy make it at all
Adam_Roman
Member
If it's 1080p60, has local and online MP, and plays better than THPS HD, I'm fine with this. I don't care about next gen graphics in a Tony Hawk game, I want it to play well. It'd be nice if they did a DLC pack of levels from older games and gave THPS HD owners a discount, but knowing Activision, that's unlikely.
TheSlySoul
Member
The main thing is the developer has not proven themselves yet.
It is much like Killer Instinct a while back when we learned the guys who made Green Lantern were working on it.
If they can pull it off, more power to them. The previews seem like they haven't learned yet what makes a TH game fun.
Sometimes bad games sell.
I really don't see this reviving the franchise though, much like the new Guitar Hero game.
SolidSnakex
Member
I get what you're saying, but I don't think the value of a THPS game has ever really been in how long it takes to beat. It's a series that's always been about high replay value. Playing the same courses over and over again to try to beat your friends score or just to find that perfect line. Of course if high score attacks isn't appealing to you then obviously it's not going to seem like good value, but you can sink a lot of time into it if that's your thing.
With that said, only the first game was short in terms of just completing it. That took four hours according to HowLongtoBeat. The other three games took between 9-11 hours.
MMaRsu
Banned
Same devs as thpshd and tony hawk ride so the gameplay will probably be ass.
TheSlySoul
Member
I can agree with that as well. It is mostly if they can have lots to do in those 9 courses. If it is like the old series, the course challenges are probably 4 hours total. Online score leader boards would be a good option to keep people playing.
It really just depends on what they do with those 9 courses.
From what I seen of this though I don't really have faith in the developer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBe5tAHk7qk
sixteen-bit
Member
the kiss of death
price implosion within a month tho
price implosion within a month tho
Demoskinos
Member
I don't see how that looks like "shit" and also we don't know what platform that screenshot is from or how far in development those shots were taken. Assumptions left and right here from people.
Leafhopper
Banned
Activision, surely you know that Tony Hawk games aren't what they used to be right?
Wow.
Wow.
To anyone who thinks the graphics are getting updated in any meaningful way before release:
- Can you point to a time where a game from a big publisher was revealed 6 months before release
and saw massive graphical improvements when it came out?
-Wouldn't you think they'd want to put their best foot forward this close to release?
and saw massive graphical improvements when it came out?
-Wouldn't you think they'd want to put their best foot forward this close to release?
aspiegamer
Member
Keep in mind that this was the official, hand-picked, specifically-selected promo material. As in what was handed over in an attempt to look as good as possible to try to sell the concept and create maximum hype. And this is the best they could offer.
DagnastyEp
Member
I don't care about the graphics quality for this game, number of levels is my issue. 9 seems very low for a full price game.