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[thuGG_pl]

After reading this this:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/12/crysis_3_video_card_performance_iq_review/9#.VVW7ykCgRAs

It looks like TXAA is by far the worst AA technique to use, as it blurs textures too much.
What to do?

 

[EatChildren]

1) I have tweaking in.
2) No idea
3) Send me the cost of the monitor and I'll order you one on Amazon

1) Cool.
2) Cool.
3) Cool.

 

[Renekton]

Question: what is the framerate for each row in Nvidia's chart?

45fps? 60fps? 30fps?

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Whats gameworks?

I have a 680gtx. I suppose I'll be able to play the game on ubersettings 1080p@30 fps

 

[54-46!]

When are the new AMD cards out?

 

[viveks86]

Question: what is the framerate for each row in Nvidia's chart?

45fps? 60fps? 30fps?

They don't want to commit because it isn't based on the final build. I guess it's safe to assume they are all 30 or above.

Edit: Andy says 40+

 

[MaLDo]

After reading this this:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/12/crysis_3_video_card_performance_iq_review/9#.VVW7ykCgRAs

It looks like TXAA is by far the worst AA technique to use, as it blurs textures too much.
What to do?

TXAA is fine. In fact, is awesome. But it's awesome doing what it is intended to do, killing temporal aliasing.

That means you can't compare its effects in a screenshot. That means too, that it can have collateral bothersome effects that other antialiasing solutions don't have.

So, against temporal aliasing, TXAA is the king. Do you prefer less overall blurry IQ having more temporal aliasing? Do not use TXAA. Do you want an overall CGI IQ where there isn't temporal aliasing, TXAA is the only way.

 

[BLunted]

Annoyingly, can't get the GPU analyzer to work, why is Java having issues with Chrome?

http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/pc-games/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/gpu-analyzer

Would have been interesting to see what it had to say about my rig.

Chrome recently dropped support for NPAPI plugins, which has disabled java among other plugins.

 

[red731]

erawsd, my 7970 bro.

Hope that i7 3770k OC'd@4.4, 16GB RAM, 7200rpm HDD and 7970GHz 3GB coud run it on awesome settings. I think I will sacrifice fps in the favour of gfx godness if perf problems arise.

Chrome recently dropped support for NPAPI plugins, which has disabled java among other plugins.

chrome://flags
search for "NPAPI"
enable

(will enable battlelog, java and other stuff...)

 

[HooYaH]

They don't want to commit because it isn't base on the final build. I guess it's safe to assume they are all above 30.

They should just base it on Dragonball Powerlevel.

Anything below 580GTX and AMD = Yamcha

 

[Salaadin]

Any word on when the driver will be released? Technically, the game releases Monday night and it'd be awesome if we have it then.

 

[viveks86]

They should just base it on Dragonball Powerlevel.

Anything below 580GTX and AMD = Yamcha

lol

Any word on when the driver will be released? Technically, the game releases Monday night and it'd be awesome if we have it then.

Will be ready before that

 

[Raytow]

They should just base it on Dragonball Powerlevel.

Anything below 580GTX and AMD = Yamcha

wat? if a 960 can pull high with 40+ fps on stressing situations a 290 or higher should eat the game for breakfast on high probably pull ultra at 1080p.

 

[Truant]

TXAA is great if you're gaming on a big TV and sitting a few feet away. It does look blurry up close on a monitor, though.

 

[maquiladora]

My 660 is feeling old. Might as well go with PS4.

 

[BLunted]

chrome://flags
search for "NPAPI"
enable

cool, thanks! Wont have to switch to Firefox when I want to use java

 

[ScepticMatt]

TXAA is the only way.

I think the "best" way would be to intelligently combine SMAA S2X with SMAA 1Tx, the A-Buffer temporal supersampling filter used in Ryse.
SMAA T2X as used in SMAA 4x works well in stills, but has issues with ghosting (as seen in Infamous: Second Son)

edit:

 

[wilflare]

so you mean... there's a chance that with a patch or two...
I can run Witcher 3 at 1920x1080/Uber with Gamewerks on my 970?
what FPS or AA setting should I be expecting?

(noting that the chart was based not the final build of the game)

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Once again, what is gameworks?

 

[BigTnaples]

Really hoping I can get 30fps at 4K Uber with gameworks.


Is the chart for 30fps or 60? Because if 2 980s can do it my 2 OCd 970s should come close right?


3770k
SLI 970 FTW
16GB Ram

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

My titan x can not wait

 

[Derp]

Once again, what is gameworks?

Nvidia-exclusive tech. So stuff like HairWorks, HBAO+, PhysX, etc...

 

[Kvik]

I wish we could have DSR + SLI + Gsync functional for TW3. :-\

Then again, two out of three isn't bad. ;-)

 

[HooYaH]

wat? if a 960 can pull high with 40+ fps on stressing situations a 290 or higher should eat the game for breakfast on high probably pull ultra at 1080p.

/s

 

[CyberPunked]

Considering the PhysX is CPU only, AMD guys should be happy.

 

[viveks86]

so you mean... there's a chance that with a patch or two...
I can run Witcher 3 at 1920x1080/Uber with Gamewerks on my 970?
what FPS or AA setting should I be expecting?

(noting that the chart was based not the final build of the game)

I doubt you can with a patch or 2. But you certainly will be able to with a good OC. 970s are solid cards for OCing. Then you would be able to hit 60 fps with the default in-game post-process AA on. There are no AA settings at the moment other than a toggle.

 

[EatChildren]

Once again, what is gameworks?

Nvidia drivers/tech that allow developers to implement various effects and processes into their engines without having to build shit on their own from the ground up.

Wild Hunt utilises GameWorks for PhysX destruction and cloth physics, which are fully integrated into the engine and run on all platforms. It also uses HairWorks, for improved hair rendering, which is only available on PC due to the processing cost.

 

[Salaadin]

Will be ready before that

Nice

Im pretty pleased. I have a 4770k, 8GBs DDR3, and an OCed 970 do this should run pretty nicely for me.

 

[MaLDo]

I think the "best" way would be to intelligently combine SMAA S2X with SMAA 1Tx, the A-Buffer temporal supersampling filter used in Ryse.
SMAA T2X as used in SMAA 4x works well in stills, but has issues with ghosting (as seen in Infamous: Second Son)

edit:

I'm talking about the pc games with TXAA available now like Crysis 3 that was named. Surely in the near future we could see more and maybe better solutions.

 

[carlsojo]

I've been using my college laptop for a few years now... I might have to finally break down and build myself a desktop.

 

[Yonafunu]

Question: what is the framerate for each row in Nvidia's chart?

45fps? 60fps? 30fps?

Is the chart for 30fps or 60? Because if 2 980s can do it my 2 OCd 970s should come close right?

Here's what Andy said about that:

The idea is 40+ in demanding moments. It isn't the final build, so I don't want to get into specifics.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Nvidia drivers/tech that allow developers to implement various effects and processes into their engines without having to build shit on their own from the ground up.

Wild Hunt utilises GameWorks for PhysX destruction and cloth physics, which are fully integrated into the engine and run on all platforms. It also uses HairWorks, for improved hair rendering, which is only available on PC due to the processing cost.

I suppose my 680gtx is a no go for that?

 

[EatChildren]

I suppose my 680gtx is a no go for that?

Not sure. PhysX destruction/cloth should be fine and I'm not sure can be turned off. HairWorks probably not.

EDIT: HairWorks has been implemented on Geralt's hair, and hair/fur of various creatures (eg: bear, griffon, etc).

 

[shiherlis21]

1440p and my 980 are ready to rock.

 

[viveks86]

Not sure. PhysX destruction/cloth should be fine and I'm not sure can be turned off. HairWorks probably not.

Yeah there are no settings for PhysX in any file

 

[jaju123]

When will devs realise that we don't want better hair? How about something that actually is needed, like global illumination or PBR? Why the hell is 40% of my FPS for some hair worth it instead? FGS. The hair tech is something for the future, when everything else already looks far better than it does now imo.

 

[pottuvoi]

TXAA is fine. In fact, is awesome. But it's awesome doing what it is intended to do, killing temporal aliasing.

That means you can't compare its effects in a screenshot. That means too, that it can have collateral bothersome effects that other antialiasing solutions don't have.

So, against temporal aliasing, TXAA is the king. Do you prefer less overall blurry IQ having more temporal aliasing? Do not use TXAA. Do you want an overall CGI IQ where there isn't temporal aliasing, TXAA is the only way.

Indeed.
The blur it introduces is done purposefully as the traditional box filter cannot be temporally stable.

Box filter.

Gaussian.

Source.
High Quality Temporal Supersampling (UE4)

When will devs realise that we don't want better hair? How about something that actually is needed, like global illumination or PBR? Why the hell is 40% of my FPS for some hair worth it instead? FGS. The hair tech is something for the future, when everything else already looks far better than it does now imo.

Pretty sure their material workflow and rendering uses PBR.

 

[Renekton]

When will devs realise that we don't want better hair?

Who is "we" ?

 

[viveks86]

Who is "we" ?

jaju123 and his PreCious

 

[GeekMarty]

When will devs realise that we don't want better hair? How about something that actually is needed, like global illumination or PBR? Why the hell is 40% of my FPS for some hair worth it instead? FGS. The hair tech is something for the future, when everything else already looks far better than it does now imo.

Afaik PBR is in The Witcher 3.

I'd also agree that GI > Hairfluff, but I'm okay with the dev's choices. THEY are the experts after all.

 

[Älg]

I suppose my 680gtx is a no go for that?

Hairworks probably. Cloth and such usually can't be turned off, so you'll probably be fine there.

When will devs realise that we don't want better hair?

[Citation needed]

 

[Static Jak]

My 970 has never been my concern, it's my i5-2500 I worry won't be able to keep up.

 

[MaLDo]

Box filter.

Gaussian.

Shit, that's a really good example. Every frame is blurrier in gaussian example, but the movement is more comfortable to look at too. Perfect. Thanks!

 

[TheSpoiler]

My GPU is great but my CPU is a busted ass FX4300.

Guess it's 800x600 on Low for me

 

[BigTnaples]

Here's what Andy said about that:

Nice thanks.


I should be right on the edge of fine then. And this is with in game AA maxed he said?

Playing at 4K I have no problem dropping down to 2xMSAA if it means I can maintain 30fps.

Many of my games in GeForce Experience recommend 1440p, but they all still maintain 30+fps at 4K. Hoping this is the case here.



Pumped to test this out.

 

[Genio88]

GTX 980 here, it is my first Nvidia card, i'd like to know, is there a way to lock the frame rate to 45fps? via nvidia panel or something else cause i don't like drops from 60 to 40

 

[thewhitehawk]

So I guess I can only play in medium at best unless I sacrifice some FPS. Oh well, I'll hold out for now.

 

[Corpekata]

GTX 980 here, it is my first Nvidia card, i'd like to know, is there a way to lock the frame rate to 45fps? via nvidia panel or something else cause i don't like drops from 60 to 40

Are you on a Gsync monitor? Cuz that'll look horrible otherwise.

You can use programs like Nvidia Inspector to lock at arbitrary framerates.

 

[Femmeworth]

Welp. Hopefully some overclocking and 720p will get me Uber settings w/ GameWorks.

Wait, I'm not even going to play this until the inevitable enhanced edition in a year or so.

 

[Genio88]

Are you on a Gsync monitor? Cuz that'll look horrible otherwise.

You can use programs like Nvidia Inspector to lock at arbitrary framerates.

No, i've not a Gsync monitor, why does it looks horrible?