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https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/606116540107255808

Which one?

 

[PurpleSquid]

people should be more upset about the animations than the graphics imo. graphics look just fine

 

[Northeastmonk]

this guy works in the game industry?

I feel like last gen was hit pretty hard and our expectations soared over night. If you go back to last gen like say Haze or Fallout 3 and look at those graphics then come back and watch the trailer.

Dante's Inferno was hit pretty hard. I go back to some older ps3 games and I'm floored about what I thought was next gen last gen.

 

[Octavianus]

Can't tell if serious. lol

But here is a serious question: is there cars in Fallout?

Yes and they explode when you touch them because Bethesda.

Spoiler

no really. they have nuclear reactors

 

[Summer Haze]

Glad that wasn't just an impression. :lol
I rewatched the trailer and most running and walking animations are lifted straigh up from 3. I wouldn't mind if they were good but they really aren't.

I think you're right. I'm watching the trailer again now and the animations of the guy in the checkered red shirt at 1:22 looks like something directly out of F3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW7Of3g2JME

Dat stiff jog animation...

Man, how disappointing.

 

[Kaako]

http://i.imgur.com/eH6VMGD.png

this guy works in the game industry?

What a fucking clown tweet by Colin. It's like these fools think that "gameplay" and "graphics" are totally disconnected. It's all part of the fucking experience; they are and will always been connected.

 

[cripterion]

Wow, that dog sure would look nice with Nvidia Fur Tech.

That's bullshit though, none of the wolves look like that ingame with Hairworks on.

 

[krillehhh]

If the graphics turn out to be shite, at least there is hope that performance will be stable.

It's fun to want things.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

I feel like we are in some kind of Bizzaro Gaf.

 

[EchoChamber]

Is this gamebryo?

 

[Alienous]

Have they confirmed the city where this iteration takes place?! That looks like Boston to me.
I saw the gold dome of the state building and what looks like a Paul Revere statue.

It is indeed Boston.

This is the thread where people are discussing the details to be gleaned from the trailer.

 

[Funky Papa]

Yes and they explode when you touch them because Bethesda.

That better not be a slight.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

I didn't know that GAF cared so much about graphics. Jeez. It may not look as good as some other games, but why is that so problematic? Aren't you interested in playing it? Also, playing on PC will alleviate these issues, if it really means that much to you.

It is problematic because it affects the atmosphere and immersion. And that affects the fun I have when I play it. Also playing this on a PC won't change anything. It will still have those low quality textures, bad animations, boring effects and flat lighting.

 

[Kid Ska]

Which one?

What? The one I linked to. In response to the tweet Salsa posted.

 

[Dennis]

If the graphics turn out to be shite, at least there is hope that performance will be stable.

How was Skyrim on PS3?

I hear they made it real easy to take screenshots.

 

[Devilgunman]

With this graphic quality, is it fair to expect Fallout 4 world to be the bigger than Witcher 3? Witcher 3 is not only bigger than Skyrim but it also looks much better.

I didn't know that GAF cared so much about graphics.

Which GAF have you been reading?

 

[RandyBobandy]

It looks cross-gen, but it isn't

Help me Obi-Wan

 

[Ganzlinger]

Yes and they explode when you touch them because Bethesda.

Spoiler

no really. they have nuclear reactors

So.. no drive?

 

[Jblanks]

I didn't know that GAF cared so much about graphics. Jeez. It may not look as good as some other games, but why is that so problematic? Aren't you interested in playing it? Also, playing on PC will alleviate these issues, if it really means that much to you.

Hehe.

 

[King Beyond the wall]

Game looks good to me, really clean and vibrant, and I get the feeling that it is a living and dynamic world.

 

[triplestation]

Remember when we were worried the graphics would suffer if the game was crossgen?

Well, looks like Bethesda solved that problem amirite guise

i worried more about gameplay potential and the size of the world

 

[SmackAttack]

Because look at the graphics!!!!

Lol seriously that's exactly what I was interested in hearing people discuss. So many interesting small things in the trailer, can't wait for them to show some gameplay soon.

Right? Like the shot at 1:41 where a sign says Memory Den. Wonder what that is.

Yeah, fully open world.
And we even have gameplay video of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tujh2fnATK4

Wow, how did I miss this last year? That looks good but I still like what I see here with Fallout 4. Something just does it for me already.

 

[EatChildren]

With this graphic quality, is it fair to expect Fallout 4 world to be the bigger than Witcher 3? Witcher 3 is not only bigger than Skyrim but it also looks much better.

I don't think Bethesda's challenge will be making a big map, so much as filling it with interesting, relevant content.

 

[krillehhh]

How was Skyrim on PS3?

I hear they made it real easy to take screenshots.

That was back when they were using game-bry-oh graphics. I heard that FO4 will use new graphics.

 

[Fox_Mulder]

That dog looks worst than COD:Ghost ones.

 

[Caipirinha]

this guy works in the game industry?

Lol look at his username, "notaxation", what a sociopath.

 

[-duskdoll-]

That is a lesbian couple and you can't convince me otherwise.

 

[Salsa]

are people really having an opinion about FROSTING and expressing it? remember when CAKES were all about the EGGS AND FAT

GIMME RAW EGGS

#millennials

 

[jett]

I don't think Bethesda's challenge will be making a big map, so much as filling it with interesting, relevant content.

There are no horses/vehicles in this game either so it doesn't need to be too big anyway.

 

[Dennis]

With this graphic quality, is it fair to expect Fallout 4 world to be the bigger than Witcher 3? Witcher 3 is not only bigger than Skyrim but it also looks much better.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Fallout 4 will look significantly less impressive than The Witcher 3 no matter the relative size of their game worlds.

 

[Jarmel]

Remember when we were worried the graphics would suffer if the game was crossgen?

Well, looks like Bethesda solved that problem amirite guise

Welp.

this guy works in the game industry?

Damn, it's almost like games can't be both at the same time.

 

[ironcreed]

I feel like we are in some kind of Bizzaro Gaf.

Bizzaro? Nope, just GAF.

 

[Bob White]

I mean...it IS using ps3/360/last gen animations. That shit is so disappointing.

 

[Hendrick's]

I didn't know that GAF cared so much about graphics.

Where ya been?

 

[NullPointer]

No I would like a thread for actual discussion about the game, not shitposting.

Why don't you start us off then? All your posts have been meta.

Was that trailer made to show off new gameplay? The possibly-gameplay-relevant parts that stick out for me are the pre-bomb era stuff and whatever that flying transport thing was, and whether its something dynamic or player controlled at all.

 

[Sifl]

I feel like we are in some kind of Bizzaro Gaf.

It's great isn't it? I'm laughing at every sarcastic comment.

 

[bathsalts]

people should be more upset about the animations than the graphics imo. graphics look just fine

I think so too, the textures, AA, and whatnot are easily remedied with mods but those janky animations from skyrim and FO3 really needed a rework.

 

[triplestation]

i hope the world is overwhelmingly huge and i hope theres enough things lurking in their for us to discover until like ps5

 

[Baron Aloha]

Looks good. Thank goodness it isn't as brown/grey as Fallout 3 was.

 

[ElTorro]

It's fun to want things.

How was Skyrim on PS3?

I hear they made it real easy to take screenshots.

Sure, they have a shitty track record, but if the graphics are indeed shite because the game started as a cross-gen game, then there is legitimate hope that the performance will be stable. Skyrim pushed the last-gen consoles quite a bit. This game doesn't seem to do the same.

 

[russian box]

What did you expect? Bethesda has never seen a real life human.

Not the best shot, but I'd take GTA V's new faked furs over Fallout 4 dog any day lol

This is all because of gamebryo.

Some people in here don't realise that the engine is the limiting factor in most of these issues,
The art style and the quality of whats in this game is great!
but its how its rendered that makes it not shine like it could.
They are making a great game within a dated engine.

The problem with gamebryo is not just lighting and other rendering issues,
but that it also hinders the gameplay.
The game will play like fallout 3 did and skyrim does, it will be stiff and samey, but thats all they can do with the engine.

look at unreal 4 and id Tech 6. so many great engines out there but it would be too expensive to move to a new one. same thing happens with CoD.
They keep the same engine and add some new jazz to it.

The reason PC mods can make this engine look way better is because they don't need to work on console,
They can throw as much ram at the issue as they want. They can add effect onto effect and have your PC deal with it.

 

[TronLight]

I think you're right. I'm watching the trailer again now and the animations of the guy in the checkered red shirt at 1:22 looks like something directly out of F3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW7Of3g2JME

Dat stiff jog animation...

Man, how disappointing.

In that same scene tha post-man (I think that's what he is) has a nice animation actually. It's nice and fluid.
The run of the kid and the woman at 1:26 it's the same as Fallout 3 though.

Point is, the one we'll see the most it's the run animation, so that kind of sucks.

 

[Rushersauce]

this guy works in the game industry?

Isn't this the guy who claimed the Vita would stomp the 3DS?

 

[Dennis]

Boston is a pretty small city geographically by American standards. I wonder how far they will let us travel.

 

[Kurdel]

That's bullshit though, none of the wolves look like that ingame with Hairworks on.

There is a subset of posters who don't give a shit if things end up real or not, they only care about hype and being bedazzled at reveals.

 

[Extra Sauce]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Fallout 4 will look significantly less impressive than The Witcher 3 no matter the relative size of their game worlds.

On PC, probably. Intermittent 20 fps on the PS4 version is not deserving of the word "impressive" though.

 

[Jarmel]

I can understand some of the stuff being bad but those animations are completely unacceptable.

Gamebryo was already dated years ago and the animations were a big reason. Good lord.

 

[maniac-kun]

Dog technology needs to improve.

 

[Lakitu]

I don't think Bethesda's challenge will be making a big map, so much as filling it with interesting, relevant content.

They did a pretty good job with Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

Lots of interesting stories and environments, but some copy and paste of course (which seems to be less in this, judging by the trailer).

 

[Dutcher]

So why are we hating Fallout now?
Graphics?
Animation?