Not necessarily, Sony has helped fund independent games that later on released on Xbox before. Like Joe Danger.
Kickstarters *really* need to make it clear when their aim is only to gain major publisher support.
Yea, i think to avoid shadiness, they should close out the Kickstarter. The projected earnings of the Kickstarter is more than enough proof that interest is through the roof.Because they only wanted to gauge interest, if that's true, they should close it and fund the rest themselves and accept traditional preorders going forward.
They've reached their goalz now's the time to show that this wasn't just a cash grab.
so how much do you think it will cost now?
This is the gaming industry. The minute you buy a game, you are donating to a corporation. Where are ya'll heads at today?
S-s-so this means it'll actually be a full, big, real Shenmue game?
You done good, Suzuki!
WTF is this. Put Ryo in Street Fighter V now.
I am not sure if it means being self righteous, just rather wishing that kickstarter was a more idealistic funding platform.
I like the idea of less large corporations being involved. Call me old fashioned perhaps.
Just for those wondering about the 'budget':
Great news, my condolences to Xbox owners who were hoping this would be on the Xbox One.
With Sony officially backing the product, we know we're going to get some high quality stuff, Suzuki's bringing his own guys over and I'm sure Sony will lend them some help from their top drawer first party development teams.
No kidding, that's really sketchy if the only reason they asked for $2 million was to justify Sony funding it.
I just think that there is a better way to gauge fan interest then with a kickstarter that was obviously going to be funded.
What ramifications lolSo having a contrary opinion is "hating" now?
I'm glad for Shenmue fans, but the ramifications of this will be big.
This thread is incredible.
Let's break this down: Shenmue 3 is getting made because it was partially funded by fans on Kickstarter, and partially funded by a major publisher.
I don't see the problem. Don't buy it if you don't want to support...standard capitalistic practices, I guess?
Apparently all the bombs last night dried out the oceans and there's nothing but salt left around here.
Some of these posts today...smh.
This game is a massive risk, how do you think that this game does not need a Kickstarter to gauge interest? It may have all worked out without it, but why does it matter if PC and PS4 gamers put money and buy the game for cheap and the game gets made anyways? How does this affect anyone negatively who would have gotten the game anyway? Please explain. Make sure not to spare any details.
If you are not an Xbox only gamer who is a fan and are complaining in this thread, you're acting like a petulant child (or might be one at this rate). This is addressing everyone in general, not just the poster I'm quoting.
This practice just rubs me the wrong way entirely - I think it's the first time a Kickstarter has been created with the developers KNOWING they have direct financial support from a multinational corporation?
Adam Boyes: "We have nothing to do with this!!!"
Shady.
Such a shame too, I love Shenmue and Yu Suzuki.
This thread is incredible.
Let's break this down: Shenmue 3 is getting made because it was partially funded by fans on Kickstarter, and partially funded by a major publisher.
I don't see the problem. Don't buy it if you don't want to support...standard capitalistic practices, I guess?
Why?
Honestly, there have been a bunch of games from established developers to go through Kickstarter now. Most of them require outside funding, either from the studio itself or from investors. What this Kickstarter does is A) signal that there is interest in a Shenmue sequel, B) give huge fans a chance to either get the game cheaper than it will likely retail for or to grab a bunch of cool Shenmue media/swag that wouldn't exist otherwise, and C) have some input on the creative process.
I'm not really seeing a downside. People have waited close to 15 years for a Shenmue 3 announcement.
I am not sure if it means being self righteous, just rather wishing that kickstarter was a more idealistic funding platform.
I like the idea of less large corporations being involved. Call me old fashioned perhaps.
I would imagine now that they are coming out as officially backing it they will close the KS but it was the only way this game was getting made guys. The last game didn't set the world on fire sales wise and the only way for Sony to see if this has any viable true market interest and is not just the deafening cry repeated over and over by the most loyal fans was a chance to get them to put their money where their mouth was. I don't understand how people don't get this
That's bullshit. No game of worth was fully funded with Kickstarter. It's just supposed to kickstart something and not to replace a business plan.
because those two can probably self fund their new IP from constant game making or from being a TV star with a decent amount of cash. Yu couldn't do any of that.
Let me guess: you didn't pledge a cent in the KS?So now that they've gauged the interest Sony knows it will be successful and cancel the kickstarter right? I mean they don't need the money
To be fair, this is explicitly stated in other major KS campaigns. Notably Bloodstained.No kidding, that's really sketchy if the only reason they asked for $2 million was to justify Sony funding it.
The buzz and all the noise around this will raise attention. Every record that the campaign breaks it's free marketing for the game. Being on stage for one of the hardware companies conference was invaluable for that too, it raised its profile immensely with new eyeballs turning to this game and trying to understand what the hell was the fuss all about. It's a big symbiotic process.
Why are people complaining? The majority of people who have contributed so far are getting a copy of the game for $29.
Yes please, that's a bargain.
If anything I am happier Sony have stepped in as it pretty much guarantees its completion. The risks associated have become much, much smaller.
Such a shame, you'll get to play Shenmue 3.
So all the $30 backers are going to turn in their game and buy it a release for $60 right?
Cool. I'm not sure I really understand the "gauge interest" thing. Can't you just make people sign a petition to show interest?
Or is $2 Million super crucial that Sony can't add it to their existing budget?
Sorry if off topic, but is this also the deal with Final Fantasy 7? I assume it will come to PC, but what about XBox?
Shouldn't even have had a kickstarter if Sony was going to do this.
So now that they've gauged the interest Sony knows it will be successful and cancel the kickstarter right? I mean they don't need the money
That's a nice way of taking advantage of the fans and getting free money, I guess. Kudos to them.
so how much do you think it will cost now?
Say a game made of 40 people that takes 3 years to develop.the reality is that videogames are too expensive. i'm sure if they got rid of middle-management, i'm sure they could make uncharted 4 or shenmue on a budget of 3 million. the problem with companies is that they to act more like a family, where money is limited and you have to budget. there is too much waste in the gaming industry, they just need to make sure they budget properly like a real family does.
I amReally not a fan of this approach.