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Visual Novels Community Thread | A Little Something for Everyone
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Basileus777
Member
For $2.00 you could probably buy it and make than that back just by selling the cards.
But $2.00 for Higurashi and Eden* is a great deal.
But $2.00 for Higurashi and Eden* is a great deal.
Bought. I was even thinking of buying Eden on the summer sale for 8...
It's a shame I already own most of those.
Twin Tails
Member
I bought it and already own some.
Quote for Eden* cause that game too good to just put up code.
Thanks Twil Tails, I got most of them except GoGo and eden*, since I already have those.
Basileus777
Member
It's from a bunch of former NISA employees. Huh. It seems pretty ambitious, especially those stretch goals. I wonder if it'll get funded.
I actually loathe the culprit breakdown trope after having watched 700-something episodes of Detective Conan and TLing about fifty of them, but that's not something I'll argue in objective terms since I know that's not how preferenecs work.
Still, the whole point of Umineko is to learn the content of the actual story in spite of (or sometimes thanks to) the wicked witches' meddling. While it is a murder mystery, the way it's presented deconstructed the genre and took it in an interesting new direction that I really appreciated.
For example, when we explored Erika's past she states that she came to the conclusion that
her boyfriend was cheating on her
Still, when you're done reading the main episodes I think you really should look into the "Our Confession" supplementary story, which has Beatrice show Dlanor the "guts" of a half-written story, explaining how
things would actually work out behind the scenes in that specific game (which isn't any of the games covered in Eps 1-8), and how she would later add magical elements to obscure the truth
deny the illusion of the witch
...Sorry for the wall of text, and if anybody notices something I should've spoiler tagged please let me know by PM so that I can fix it.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT:
A Muv-Luv official localiaztion is happening
Welp, that's something I didn't expected to happen.
A Muv-Luv official localiaztion is happening
Welp, that's something I didn't expected to happen.
July 2nd can't come soon enough.
Edit: Apparently Degica is going to be doing a kickstarter for a localization of Muv-Luv and Muv-Luv Alternative.
I'll support it.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Oh that'll be nice! It'll be cool if they use the higher res assets from the console releases but after Steins;Gate I'm not holding my breath.
Steins;Gate for PS3 and Vita is releasing on August 25th in NA.
Seems strange to release it so long after the EU release.
Seems strange to release it so long after the EU release.
Red_taiyaki
Member
Eh, at least we know we're getting it for sure now. Just pre-ordered the Vita version myself :3.
Space Medafighter X
Member
STFU holy shit yes!
They're just reusing Ixrec's fan translation. They're not even using the money to retranslate the game (not that it needs to, the fan TL is fine as is.)
Maybe they just need the money for licensing voices, since that's probably more expensive than I give it credit for. All I know is that the actual translation's been done for years and they're pretty damn late to the party.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Wasn't Muv-Luv considered for official release before? I think that fell through or something.
Yes.
CrimsonFist
Member
That's good, I just with the console versions came along as well.
Basileus777
Member
Oh shit. I was not expecting this, especially from a new entrant in the VN localization business.
They'll also have to change the game to get it on Steam. I wonder if they'll have access to the console assets.
There is actually an official all-ages Windows release for Extra/Unlimited, and Alternative.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah those versions have widescreen assets too I believe since they were remade with the Alternative engine.
I'm really happy at the possibility of Muv Luv officially in English...but there's a couple things that make me wary of this.
1. From what I can tell through the grapevine (twitter and IRC channel people), this is just reusing the existing translation as-is. Muv Luv isn't exactly "ruinable" in the same way Cross Channel or the good parts of Rewrite are, but the translation not being touched up at all is a little worrying. This leads to...
2. age is notoriously difficult to work with. If Muv Luv is successful, that's great. But would a quality studio be willing to work with them is the future question. Degica publishes small RPGs and shmups, not visual novels with huge scripts. I find it difficult to think that this will lead to quality releases of the rest of the Muv Luv franchise. Releases maybe, but not particularly good ones.
3. The rest of the games in the franchise are mostly 18+ and PC only outside of Total Eclipse, so they aren't as financially attractive like the all ages release of the main games in the franchise are. My hope is that we'd get Altered Fable or the Chronicles games eventually out of this, but we'd probably just get Total Eclipse and nothing else.
1. From what I can tell through the grapevine (twitter and IRC channel people), this is just reusing the existing translation as-is. Muv Luv isn't exactly "ruinable" in the same way Cross Channel or the good parts of Rewrite are, but the translation not being touched up at all is a little worrying. This leads to...
2. age is notoriously difficult to work with. If Muv Luv is successful, that's great. But would a quality studio be willing to work with them is the future question. Degica publishes small RPGs and shmups, not visual novels with huge scripts. I find it difficult to think that this will lead to quality releases of the rest of the Muv Luv franchise. Releases maybe, but not particularly good ones.
3. The rest of the games in the franchise are mostly 18+ and PC only outside of Total Eclipse, so they aren't as financially attractive like the all ages release of the main games in the franchise are. My hope is that we'd get Altered Fable or the Chronicles games eventually out of this, but we'd probably just get Total Eclipse and nothing else.
Just finished two more VNs. First one was Juniper's Knot, a nice short VN, that I'd heard was pretty good so I decided to check it out. Then I played 1000 Words. It's a very short VN (2-3 minutes), but it has a touching story. I'm going to play eden* next, and then hopefully I can get myself back on track with Baldr Sky, since I've not played it in almost 2 weeks, mainly because I've been too focused on just reading GAF instead of actually playing my games. 
calc84maniac
Member
cosmicblizzard
Banned
See, this Umineko ep sums up pretty much everything I don't like about how things have played out so far.
Is it a deconstruction? Sure, in the most unsatisfying way possible. The scary, yet moving nature of being crusaders for truth in other stuff in this medium like Danganronpa and Persona 4 is turned on its head in a way that just makes me see this as a massive waste of time. Hell, there was a protagonist in this that tried to reach out to the truth. The hell happened to that?
Honestly, some of the dialogue is even making me think Ryukishi is intentionally giving a massive middle finger to the readers. But hey, with how many people like it, that either failed or I'm completely misinterpreting it. Either way, this is absolutely NOT the Higurashi successor I wanted.
The entire point of this seems to be concealing the truth. The portrayal is wildly in favor of showing the illusion side as the "right" one. Everything from the presentation to the deranged portrayals of Ange and Bernkastel to the former's exorbitant cost of learning the truth paints them as the opposing side. Even the goats, who clearly represent the audience that want to know what the fuck is happening, are shown as ravenous invaders that have no right to break the illusion. The good guys are pretty much doing everything in their power to make sure that won't happen, and because of that and what I've been able to gather from the posts in here, they'll succeed.
Is it a deconstruction? Sure, in the most unsatisfying way possible. The scary, yet moving nature of being crusaders for truth in other stuff in this medium like Danganronpa and Persona 4 is turned on its head in a way that just makes me see this as a massive waste of time. Hell, there was a protagonist in this that tried to reach out to the truth. The hell happened to that?
Battler's flipped role is among the most unsatisfying things here. Instead of becoming the badass "Phoenix Wright of magic" that I wanted him to be, he ended up becoming just another witch that speaks in riddles and non-answers.
Honestly, some of the dialogue is even making me think Ryukishi is intentionally giving a massive middle finger to the readers. But hey, with how many people like it, that either failed or I'm completely misinterpreting it. Either way, this is absolutely NOT the Higurashi successor I wanted.
Basileus777
Member
Now this really needs context.
calc84maniac
Member
Well, it says it's not related to ≪Cert Dead≫, I guess.
When it hits the end of the hour I'll grab those counters and figure out when the first one is counting down to (seems to be sometime on July 2 at this point) and when the second one is counting up from (seems to be around the start of 2014).
cj_iwakura
Member
Keep in mind that one of the founders of 07th Expansion died before the Umineko story could be finished, which almost certainly darkened the finale's outcome.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Oh... did not know that. There's a far more depressing lingering tone here than the others which I found jarring, but it makes sense if the creator had lost someone recently. That's pretty sad.
I like Ryukishi's progression, since Umineko takes Higurashi logic and deconstructs it, and then Higanbana also plays with the expectations you might have from having read Umineko and turns them on its head.
I get that the later episodes go to great lengths to show
how Ange's fixation with the truth was really self-destructive for her, and how self-delusion as a coping mechanism was a possible way to save herself and move forward with her life
not everything is answered outright means you can continue debating about it with others almost endlessly... which is a perfect meta-concept for Umineko, since that's exactly what the series was doing with itself in-universe
Even if you didn't like the whole package, what did you think of the purple truth segment? I think that, given your concerns with the VN as a whole, that part might've been more to your liking, even if it was more or less a watered-down version of what you had been reading through for over seventy hours by the time you got there.
I might give MLA another go then, the new localization could make it a bit more interesting. And now that I know what I'm actually getting into, I won't be so disappointed lol
Not that the fan translation was particularly bad or anything like that
e: oh it's NOT getting re-translated? nvm then!
calc84maniac
Member
So it seems the first timer is counting down to July 2, 2015 12:00 PM PDT (I used Pacific Time under the assumption that it has something to do with Anime Expo), and the second timer is counting up from January 1, 2014 midnight in Japan time zone. If I didn't miscalculate anywhere. I don't see anything interesting at noon July 2 on the Anime Expo schedule, though.
Since it's a Steam release, it is very likely that the release here will be the "Windows 7 support edition" (18+ version of the 360 ports), but with the all ages versions of scenes added back in. It won't be the original PC release, since that has technical problems on modern Windows. It'll likely basically be the same thing as buying the 360/PS3 version.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
What's with the crazy news ITT today? Also, in for Higurashi. Thanks for the heads up!
Fuck it, I'll give it another try anyway later this week. Or maybe I'll even start today, if I can get it to work on Win 8.1.
At least I can skip extra and unlimited this time around.
Dracandros
Banned
This is a crazy day. It's a shame that the Indiegala bundle probably won't support Minori's fund-raising effort at all though, but it's still worth it.
The Muv-Luv news is really exciting, but there is one question (based partially on my very little and practically useless understanding of the anime ) that I would need answered
The Muv-Luv news is really exciting, but there is one question (based partially on my very little and practically useless understanding of the anime
) that I would need answered Is this a visual novel that uses physical horror or gore all that often to get its message(s) across? I would prefer if it had none or very little of it.
I do not enjoy that kind of material at all - in fact, I get an instant negative reaction from it that usually ruins the moment around it.
I do not enjoy that kind of material at all - in fact, I get an instant negative reaction from it that usually ruins the moment around it.
WhirlwindMonk
Banned
Interesting. I've been wanting to play these games, maybe an official release will finally get me started on them.
Looks fun, I backed at the $25 level. I'd love to see this make it to the Vita, but that stretch goal seems pretty unlikely.
This is a crazy day. It's a shame that the Indiegala bundle probably won't support Minori's fund-raising effort at all though, but it's still worth it.
The Muv-Luv news is really exciting, but there is one question (based partially on my very little and practically useless understanding of the anime
Is this a visual novel that uses physical horror or gore all that often to get its message(s) across? I would prefer if it had none or very little of it.
I do not enjoy that kind of material at all - in fact, I get an instant negative reaction from it that usually ruins the moment around it.
No idea why you spoiler tagged your question, but I guess I'll do mine too lol
There's the one couple of hour long arc in MLA that's pretty much there to just shock you with gore and heart-wrenching deaths but other than that, I don't remember it being very gory at all. Can't say I'm 100% certain, though, cause I actually enjoy gore if it's well made and it's been a while since I played MLA.
If gore bothers you, though, I gotta mention that all of the three games have some pretty fucking stupid sex scenes too. Pretty sure I recall a
tentacle rape
podracer35
Member
So glad I saw this before the deal was over. Haven't heard about any of them other than Eden* and Higurashi, but at that price, it'd be criminal not to get the bundle! >_<
Also, my interest in Muv-Luv has been piqued... Got slightly spoiled in that other announcement thread, but eh, it happened with Ever17 and I still had a blast! (*Adds Muv-Luv to the growing list of VNs I need to play*)