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DF: Witcher 3 patch 1.07 negatively impacts framerate, up to 8fps lower on XB1
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Obi Wan was a Sith confirmed.
Should have believed Obi Wan... only a Sith deals in absolutes....
Marcin Momot has lied consistently about the state of Witcher 3. Even before release he would always damage control. He even claimed in one post that the PC version would look like the Sword of Destiny trailer, just weeks before release. Not a reliable source to go by.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
There have been multiple updates since I last played, even if this latest one isn't out yet. I remember seeing Steam update it at least twice. Was just hoping for vague impressions like "it's pretty stable / things have improved since launch".
Summer Haze
Banned
They enabled double buffering vsync on X1. It now locks to 20fps in the swamps. Parity with PS4!
Why would they do that to the X1 version? Makes no damn sense.
Backfoggen
Banned
Day 1 buyers on XB1 had it better. Day 60 players get screwed until they fix this.
it's pretty stable.
things have improved since launch.
Seriously, I haven't encountered a crash in quite a while and the performance appears to be improved a bit. I actually held off on playing once they announced the 1.0.7 patch. I'm in a really Witchery mood right now and the wait is killing me.
I have the Fields of Ard Skellig song looping and it's not making the wait any easier.
Vire
Member
I've held off on playing this game because everyone from CDPR had constantly reiterated that 1.07 was a huge patch that would fix mostly all of the remaining problems with the game, including performance.
So, I now I load up GAF to read this. This is just flat out unacceptable... I'm really starting to not understand the praise for this game or studio.
So, I now I load up GAF to read this. This is just flat out unacceptable... I'm really starting to not understand the praise for this game or studio.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
For me, I'm pushing through it. I think the content of the patch outbeats some framerate issues. As rough as it has been recently, I'm pretty much building a tolerance for it just to get through the game and not focus on it too much. I do appreciate those who are still fighting for that update though. I wish I could rally behind this but I only get so much time to play so I'm mildly just accepting the way it is right now 
To be honest, games that have more than minor performance problems on release *rarely* ever get 'fixed'. At the most, you get some minor improvements, perhaps enough to squash some of the complaining, but there is usually a reason beyond 'lack of optimization' that these games release with performance problems in the first place.
This specific situation is quite bizarre, though. CDPR are better than this.
That's western game publishers & their mentality for you.
The praise comes from it easily being the best RPG in years. The praise for the studio come from it looking fantastic and running well most of the time.
Until you play the game it's hard to explain how little time you spend in the swamp, Novigrad is longer but it's not that big a percentage of the game and it is mostly used as a hub for story quests which take you outside of the city.
PC version doesn't have these performance issues in the first place(at least not nearly to the same extent). I'm not terribly worried.
I've had two crashes since launch. Perfect, stutter-free framerate. It's a lovely port.
I run into the occasional minor glitch though. A borked animation on a background NPC, a map icon pointing to the wrong location... I believe this stuff is also on console. It's still a lot more polished than I'd expect for such a massive game.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Not only do you get more features but a more overall cinematic experience!
Krusenstern
Banned
We don't even know if the PC Version will actually perform worse with patch 1.07 and you're already planning on skipping an update that adds dozens of other improvements and bug fixes....
Vire
Member
Except my problems go beyond the performance of this game.
Last night:
I'm off on a quest to go find
the Red Baron's wife because he won't tell me Ciri's location until I do this for him.
find the location of the wife.
What does the Pellar want me to do? Oh.. find his goat.
For fucks sake game, it's like one fetch quest after another. I don't have time for this shit and I really wish it would respect my time more.
Geralt is treated like a supernatural private detective/hunter. If you aren't into the structure of the quests then yeah, that's a fair reason and it's an issue most/all RPGs have.
The game really is amazing. It deserves all of the accolades that it is receiving for it's gameplay, graphics, art direction, and storytelling. It's one of my favorite games of all time. It is indeed something special.
The PC version runs very well. It's amazing what CDPR has accomplished in making such a large, alive, and seamless world. I've played over a hundred hours without a single crash. There are quest bugs I've encountered and graphics issues - especially clipping and alignment. Frame rates for me have been great running on high settings with some setting files tweaks to make the game look even better.
It seems that the performance problems are on the console versions. I can't understand how CDPR could make the game worse with a patch that was supposedly so thoroughly tested. Not sure what's going on there, but hope it's fixed ASAP. Rollback the graphics changes if need be.
Still, don't believe that the game is terrible. It's not. Whatever technical issues there are, the game itself is a phenomenal experience. Don't miss out on it, even if you decide to wait until these issues are sorted out.
Just read the DF article... This is absolutely outrageous stuff by CDPR. They have completely botched the game on consoles and have progressively made performance worse with patches.
I can't believe I'll have to wait for another patch just in the hope of playing this game with acceptable performance. Absolutely shameful.
I can't believe I'll have to wait for another patch just in the hope of playing this game with acceptable performance. Absolutely shameful.
I think some of the side quests are really well written, but mechanically the game is Witcher Senses: The Game. I never had one-- not even once-- following blood trails or foot steps or "stench" in the air.
cyberheater
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So a update patch that actually downgrades console performance. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
We live in interesting times.
We live in interesting times.
The goat quest is funny.
Virtually every RPG quest in existence is a fetch quest if you're being reductionist. TW3's quests tend to have interesting twists or great dialogue that elevates them above this.
It's like developers don't test things anymore.
"Release the game! I don't care about its performance, we'll fix it later. Who has the time to finish products these days amirite? You know what,don't even fix it later, make it worse and the surprise will be bigger"
I don't care about people loving this company so much, they are in patch number SEVEN and no, that's not a good thing. Game should be performing well since day one. We scolded Ubisoft for shit like this, why not them?
"Release the game! I don't care about its performance, we'll fix it later. Who has the time to finish products these days amirite? You know what,don't even fix it later, make it worse and the surprise will be bigger"
I don't care about people loving this company so much, they are in patch number SEVEN and no, that's not a good thing. Game should be performing well since day one. We scolded Ubisoft for shit like this, why not them?
Daffy Duck
Member
How long til the cries for re-reviews?
This is...er...something.
This is...er...something.
it's funny. then you realize they're making you do the escort quest anyways.
alexandros
Banned
I'm not sure how well that would go over.
GravityMan
Member
I really wish some tech-savvy journalist could interview CDPR and get a straight answer on why the PS4 version was double-buffered in the first place, and why the XB1 version is now double-buffered. It makes zero sense for ANY game in this day and age to use double-buffering. Please use triple-buffering.
I'm glad I went with the PC version of TW3. Crookback Bog in the rain still held at or near 60 fps with all settings on ultra (except foilage on High, I think shadows on high, and no Hairworks). GTX 970.
I feel bad for console owners of this game. This game is too damn good to have such poor performance. At the very least, it should be 30 fps 98-99% of the time, with minor dips into the upper 20s. Get your act together, CDPR.
Also, Marcin Momot is a community manager, not a developer. I wouldn't expect him to have in-depth knowledge or comprehension of performance-related things in a game. So I always took that tweet he made about the PS4 framerate dips with a grain of salt.
20 FPS is bad and unacceptable, but Blighttown was still much worse. Parts of that area dropped down to 10-15 FPS on PS3 and 360.
I'm glad I went with the PC version of TW3. Crookback Bog in the rain still held at or near 60 fps with all settings on ultra (except foilage on High, I think shadows on high, and no Hairworks). GTX 970.
I feel bad for console owners of this game. This game is too damn good to have such poor performance. At the very least, it should be 30 fps 98-99% of the time, with minor dips into the upper 20s. Get your act together, CDPR.
Also, Marcin Momot is a community manager, not a developer. I wouldn't expect him to have in-depth knowledge or comprehension of performance-related things in a game. So I always took that tweet he made about the PS4 framerate dips with a grain of salt.
it that blighttown level of awfulness on the xbo? Planning to get it this month. Guess Ill wait some more.
20 FPS is bad and unacceptable, but Blighttown was still much worse. Parts of that area dropped down to 10-15 FPS on PS3 and 360.
GavinUK86
Member
Well my game doesn't need any fixes as of right now so yes, I am skipping it unless everyone says it's fine. The stash/weight thing doesn't bother me because I use mods and I've never had any issues with the way Geralt controls. But, like I said, I'm not being a tester anymore so I'll wait and see what the majority say after it comes out.
Oh god, don't do that. The internet will implode.
FunkyLounge
Member
What's even happening this gen? That's crazy.
His Majesty
Banned
It's all about the presentation. And I can't think of many games that do it better than The Witcher 3. The writing and voice acting elevate even the most obvious fetch quest to something special. The goat quest was especially funny and is in no means comparable to the mind-numbing stuff you do in games like DA: I or FFXIV. In the same Baron questline there is also an 'escort quest'. But to classify it as such would not do justice to the quality of it.
GameAddict411
Member
They can fix the performance issues by lowering the some of the graphics setting. Drop to 900p on the ps4, and drop 720p on the xo. This is really bad. I have not seen a developer make a game worse by a patch.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
I'm playing on my 970/4670K and performance at 1440P with Gsync has been fine- mostly hovering around 40FPS or so with Hairworks on.
The only bugs that I've really had have been the one with save game import seemingly not working and thus not getting the quest with
Letho
So at least for me, performance and bugs have been fine for a game of this scope. I'm having far fewer performance and bug issues than I did with DA:Inquisition, another big "AAA" budget RPG.
Right, if you want to be reductionist about it then sure, you could boil just about every RPG quest down to it being some sort of fetch quest more often than not. Like you said, its how those quests get dressed up with context and story and presentation that elevates them over the kind of drivel you endure in something like DA:I where its just "Kill X renegade mages and templars" with next to no story or context around why you're doing that or having any twists in the actual activity.
Isendurl
Member
So you want a game that would respect your time and you choose to play 100h+ open world RPG.
K bro.
The Xbox One was running fine at 900p, why drop it to 720p?
They don't need to drop the Xbox resolution, the framerate was good. Just hit undo.
Dick Justice
Banned
Hey, at least it's not as bad the latest patch for GTA V on PC, which introduced horrible microstuttering and major framedrops even on high-end machines.
Good point
Dick Justice
Banned
"Lazy devs! But Uncharted!"