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Danganronpa Mafia |OT| Grin and Bear It
- Thread starter LaunchpadMcQ
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If you get lynched today it's because your setting yourself up to be an easy target and incriminating 3 random people based on nothing while you're at it. Your quite gung ho for this being the first day...
There's 23 people in this game and seeing how it's a 3 day cycle I'm happy to take a wait and see approach to how things play out especially seeing how this is my first game.
Barrylocke
Member
*cough*A 4 day cycle*cough*
Just popping in from the Archer thread to give my moral support to my BFF seer buddy Sawneeks! Go find those dual colored teddy bears or whatever it is you guys are trying to sniff out in this Dangagoga or something like that business.
I will now return to staring at the countdown clock in the Archer thread.
I will now return to staring at the countdown clock in the Archer thread.
Zippedpinhead
Member
5/12 for absolutbro? I'm still leaning toward day one lynch, but I want to wait another day (mainly because I can take my time this weekend).
Also czartim's post about three scum not voting in Star Wars mafia day one... Interesting, I never realized that until right now.
Also czartim's post about three scum not voting in Star Wars mafia day one... Interesting, I never realized that until right now.
So far we have 5 players who haven't posted yet:
ANuclearError
A Human Becoming
Salvapot
AbsolutBro
goshujinsama
Let's see what they have to say before rushing the day:
VOTE: ANuclearError
also fun fact: both the first game and the AC game started with a No lynch/Eviction and ended with a town win. The SW game detained someone the first day and ended with a Hutt win. I don't mean anything with this, I just found this interesting.
ANuclearError
A Human Becoming
Salvapot
AbsolutBro
goshujinsama
Let's see what they have to say before rushing the day:
VOTE: ANuclearError
also fun fact: both the first game and the AC game started with a No lynch/Eviction and ended with a town win. The SW game detained someone the first day and ended with a Hutt win. I don't mean anything with this, I just found this interesting.
These posts feel very empty to me. Like litterally just listing every possibility and then coming to the conclusion that none of that matters and a bandwagon is easier.
vote: CornBurrito
They do read like empty posts but most posts on the first day are just that. Nobody has anything to base stuff off so they make long winded posts. However I feel better voting for them over AbsolutBro for now since there is something to base the vote off.
Vote: CornBurrito
ANuclearError
Member
Only woke up bout an hour ago. Read through the thread, not seen anything worth committing to, we got three days, no point rushing just yet.
sorry can't type i'm on train.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
It's not necessarily that quiet people are mafia - although they often are - but that by penalizing quietness we force people to produce content. Continually producing content that reads like town is very difficult to do for scum over sustained periods. We make their job harder at the point we force everyone to commit.
This happens every game and it is a terrible idea. What happens is people leave things for three days, then get to the deadline with no prior discussion, have no specific action to choose, and vote blindly and with little information.
I agree, Crab. We need more information about each other.
I dug through the warehouse to find these cards. (Not really, but let's go along with it.)
Everyone, pick a number between 1 and 9.
Each number is assigned to a card. You answer yes or no to the question, simple.
If your number is
, answer the left card.
If your number is
, answer the middle card.
If your number is
, answer the right card.
Of course you are free to lie or ignore these cards altogether. My answer to one of the cards is no.
I dug through the warehouse to find these cards. (Not really, but let's go along with it.)
Everyone, pick a number between 1 and 9.
Each number is assigned to a card. You answer yes or no to the question, simple.
If your number is
2, 8, or 9
If your number is
3, 4, or 5
If your number is
1, 6, or 7
Of course you are free to lie or ignore these cards altogether. My answer to one of the cards is no.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
inb4 clumsiest "secret" role power usage ever
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ignore me.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Launch, you're not really supposed to comment on the course of play.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I misjudged the situation. Carry on.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Blarg? I thought you were a photoshop master?I agree, Crab. We need more information about each other.
I dug through the warehouse to find these cards. (Not really, but let's go along with it.)
Everyone, pick a number between 1 and 9.
Each number is assigned to a card. You answer yes or no to the question, simple.
If your number is, answer the left card.2, 8, or 9
If your number is, answer the middle card.3, 4, or 5
If your number is, answer the right card.1, 6, or 7
Of course you are free to lie or ignore these cards altogether. My answer to one of the cards is no.
Seriously, I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this...
CornBurrito
Member
Well yeah, it is Day 1 so every possibility is open. And yes, my conclusion was that none of it matters on Day 1 and that a bandwagon is easier.
I do find one thing interesting though. You vote for me for listing every possibility and making an empty post, but *Splinter did the same exact thing, and he did it first.
That's the problem. We need communication, that's the best weapon to find Despair. If everyone remain silent and wait on the sides we gain nothing and contribute to a Despair win.
We need everyone in the game to express yours opinions and cast a vote.
Haha, I'm not Blarg. Sorry for the crappy design.
CornBurrito
Member
I essentially just got two votes launched at me for expressing my opinion that the most likely course of action for Despair is to NOT lead a Day 1 lynch. And that I felt it was more likely than not that swamped was Hope aligned.
Then I got told my post was just empty
CornBurrito
Member
Actually no, I need to clarify this better.
My conclusion was NOT that none if it matters and to just bandwagon. I didn't come to any conclusion too strongly (and duh, it is Day 1 and we have no information) but I did make two conclusions. See my above post.
My "it doesn't matter" was more about how not much can be done about a Day1 punishment. If AbsolutBro is Hope aligned then he can try to convince us, but with no information we can't really have any confidence whether or not he is lying. I believe that the Day1 punishment is essentially random and that it sucks, but I also don't think that Despair would be the ones to lead the Day1 punishment.
This is a better response than the other one. My problem with your posts earlier was that it felt like you were hedging your bet on the AB vote by saying "I doubt the mafia would lead a day one bandwagon therefore if I follow this bandwagon and he's town, it's not my fault." Of course many people have voted for AB, but your's stuck out because it felt awkward so I wanted to ping you. Thanks for responding and for now:
unvote
I essentially just got two votes launched at me for expressing my opinion that the most likely course of action for Despair is to NOT lead a Day 1 lynch. And that I felt it was more likely than not that swamped was Hope aligned.
Then I got told my post was just empty
this is what mafia is. get ready for 2-3 months of pulling your hair out and losing all sense of self confidence
QUOTE=CornBurrito;173847075]I do find one thing interesting though. You vote for me for listing every possibility and making an empty post, but *Splinter did the same exact thing, and he did it first.[/QUOTE]
eh, I wouldn't compare the situations. Splinter seems to me a lot like worthyedge in SW mafia. Day one worthy got a vote on him (mine lol) and basically freaked with a bunch of erratic behavior which was really just newbie jitters. He was town in the end.
Here I see splinter throwing out an omgus vote and then calming down a bit. It's day one of course, so who knows. But the difference between his list and yours is his was a reaction to him getting random voted rather than what I felt was you trying to generate fake content to appear town and justify a vote (which who knows, maybe was what you were doing!)
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Remember to specify who you're unvoting.
I essentially just got two votes launched at me for expressing my opinion that the most likely course of action for Despair is to NOT lead a Day 1 lynch. And that I felt it was more likely than not that swamped was Hope aligned.
Then I got told my post was just empty
Welcome to Gaf Mafia!!!
Hope you have a good time.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Barrylocke
Member
I agree, Crab. We need more information about each other.
I dug through the warehouse to find these cards. (Not really, but let's go along with it.)
Everyone, pick a number between 1 and 9.
Each number is assigned to a card. You answer yes or no to the question, simple.
If your number is, answer the left card.2, 8, or 9
If your number is, answer the middle card.3, 4, or 5
If your number is, answer the right card.1, 6, or 7
Of course you are free to lie or ignore these cards altogether. My answer to one of the cards is no.
Normally I ignore these games altogether (see the Blarg drama in SW mafia). But I have to ask. What the heck do the second and 3rd questions mean? Here where? Why is he on a card and not on another? Should I understand? Is this all a joke? At least the first card is straight forward but...
...This is why I ignore these games altogether...
When I saw it I thought that "here" refered to on the card but I guess it could mean "here" as in the game at large. It is odd that something like this has been brought out on the first day. Since no-one else has tried it yes, my answer to one of these cards is No.
CornBurritos explanation makes them sound more hope aligned than their inital posts did. If someone was on the side of Despair I feel like they wouldn't defend themselves as much as CornBurrito did. So instead I'll change my vote to someone who hasn't posted yet.
Vote: SalvaPot
Barrylocke
Member
While I agree with this sentiment in theory, in practice I've been looking forward to this and really want to contribute beyond the day 1 no information stage
Having slept on the situation, I've come to the same conclusion that Burrito described above.
I was considering voting for another non-poster to get more people involved, but it seems every except Absolut is safe now anyway, so let's see what he has to say for himself.
VOTE: AbsolutBro
Votes that are close together timewise make me antsy, because it feels "me too!" ish. Splinter's vote has the precedence of the little back and forth of him and kgtrep behind it, which was definitely OMGUS-esque. But I've never really thought much on OMGUS, especially this early, and especially with players that (seem?) to be newer.
ViviOggi on the other hand had more of the "me too" vibe. Splinter has my eyes raised a little but at least his post came first and had more substance between it and his prior logic. So if I had to choose one for an early vote:
Vote: ViviOggi
Also, in another fit of dumbness, why exactly was AbsolutBro picked for the first bandwagon again?
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
}:|
From my little Mafia experience a first night lynching is generally the best option, and since we have no information to work with AbsolutBro is as good a choice as any. So yes, my vote totally was a "me too" thing, I mean I even said it in my original post.
I'm not sure why he is the target either (or what history he seems to have with other players from previous games), which is why I would like him to comment. I agree with Splinter though that what's even worse than lynching another Hope player is ending the first day early, so if we're nearing the threshold before AB has had a chance to defend himself I won't mind retracting my vote at all.
Woah woah woah, what happened while I was asleep? I was not expecting this many votes on AB! Poor kid hasn't even had a chance to say anything. Remember that if we reach a majority, the day ends early (that's 12 votes). How many votes are on AbsolutBro now? about 5 ish? In my opinion, you only need 3-4 votes on a person to put the heat on them and get them to talk. So my current inclination is to be extremely suspicious of the late people on the AB bandwagon, especially ViviOggi in this case. I think, on Day 1, the easiest course of action for Despair is to either slip onto a bandwagon, hoping nobody will notice in the turmoil, or just vote 'no punishment', since they can kill anyone they want during the night phase.
Now, I'm sure you all can see why I decided to start off the game with a vote. At least we all can get an idea of all the students' voting patterns.
Now, I'm sure you all can see why I decided to start off the game with a vote. At least we all can get an idea of all the students' voting patterns.
Finally! You and Franconp were the only ones to ask this! As you might of guessed, it's totally random (RNG), although I think I like this choice because I feel like AB is the sort of player who would be able to defend himself.
To the others who didn't ask this question and yet followed my bandwagon - why did you think I started the vote for him and not another student? Those who didn't ask this question also make me suspicious/nervous...
CornBurrito
Member
I'm almost certain I've explained my thought processes.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Given you were the first post and we're in day 1 so there's little likelihood you have any additional information, it could only ever have been a) random, or b) based on his play from last game where he was a rather effective mafia/Hutt. It's not very interesting asking which you picked for. It's more interesting to ask why people followed you.
I noticed that the people who voted for AbsolutBro (Besides you and Terrabyte) were new to the game so that could play into it. That's all I'm going to say on this until those people post since I don't want to potentially give someone an excuse for why they voted.
I voted AB because I didn't think it mattered at that point (he had 3 votes, though I miscounted 4) and I wanted to remove my fake vote from kgtrep, since several people were taking that vote more seriously than I had expected. I don't like some of the plays kg has made so far, but I don't actually think he is Mafia.
In truth, if I hadn't miscounted I would have seen the game as being more open still, and might have voted for someone who hasn't posted - we still need more people talking (although to be fair weren't we due to start Monday?)
In truth, if I hadn't miscounted I would have seen the game as being more open still, and might have voted for someone who hasn't posted - we still need more people talking (although to be fair weren't we due to start Monday?)
I thought that was why but always it's better to ask.
I was going to say the same that Barrylocke said about ViviOggi. I found that post very suspicious. I don't like the idea of people jumping on the bandwagon, they don't add to the game.
I had to read through your posts again lol, because I couldn't remember what you said XD.
This, along with your post 334 give off a Hope-aligned vibe. You're also correct that, if we do punish on Day 1 (which I advocate) it is essentially random. On Day 1, the most we can do is generate discussion, get 'gut' feelings for who is on which team, and vote based on instinct since we have no other information.
A Despair-aligned player might simply ignore someone who is questioning him/her to avoid unnecessary confrontation, but you seem to be ready to fight back, which is a good sign for now
Please see my post above. I may have fallen into a newbie trap here, and was thinking about retracting my vote immediately once questioned since I have no stake in this either way, but that would look even more suspicious wouldn't it. So until AB responds, we get new information or actually get close to ending the day early I might as well stick with it.
Sorry for the confusion. The here did refer to whether you see Monokuma on the card (if you chose either of those cards). The middle card allows you to answer yes without confirming you're a mafia.
What would have come out of this, I can't say. It was nonetheless a conversation piece to get us to keep talking.