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ISIS calls for attacks on Turkey for the first time

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Welp, expecting more attacks inside Turkey now. That fucking suicide bombing was just the start :-/
Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil) has publicly called on its supporters to attack Turkey for the first time, after Ankara allied itself with Washington against the jihadist group.

In a video issued on Monday, an Isil spokesman calls Turkish president Recep Tayep Erdogan a "tyrant traitor" and exhorts its followers inside the country to rise up “wherever they are and however they can” against the government. In the video, entitled “A Message to Turkey”, Isil accuses Mr Erdogan of being allied to the “American Crusaders, the caretakers of the Jews,” and the “criminal atheists” of the Kurdish militant faction the Kurdistan Workers’ Union, or PKK.

"People of Turkey, you must rise and fight those Crusaders and atheists and tyrants who tricked you and made you slaves of the Crusders, you must fight them before it is too late," it said.

The call to arms comes after the Turkish government began a wide-scale campaign to destroy Isil following a suicide bombing last July in Suruc, near the Syrian border, that killed 32 people and was blamed on Isil.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ls-on-supporters-to-fight-traitor-Turkey.html
 

Josh7289

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So they want to make it easy for the US to justify fighting. This is their endgame, right? Some kind of final holy war against the US? What sickos.
 

RiverBed

Banned
Quickening their demise.

Also, the nations surrounding ISIS have over 1.5 million soldiers. They need to get serious and align to eliminate this pest.
 
I'm unsure if Article 5 counts if ISIS attacks Turkish soil in Asia, technically. A brief scan of the text mentions attacks on NATO member states that takes place in Europe or North America. Hmm.
 
I'm unsure if Article 5 counts if ISIS attacks Turkish soil in Asia, technically. A brief scan of the text mentions attacks on NATO member states that takes place in Europe or North America. Hmm.

I would guess that for practical purposes under Article 5, the entirety of Turkey counts as being in Europe.

I can't imagine that ISIS would have to actually cross the Bosphorous in order for Article 5 to be considered.
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Great news. This should make it more difficult for Erdogan's government to support or ignore ISIS.
 

spekkeh

Banned
Great news. This should make it more difficult for Erdogan's government to support or ignore ISIS.

I hope so. In the end I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS wants to invade Turkey too, as any wannabe caliphate would, but this could also just be some plausible deniability 'look we really hate each other' banter while Turkey continues to ignore/support them.
 
Hopefully no one gets hurt in Turkey, but I hope Turkey will just steamroll ISIS if anything happens. They have the military to do it.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I'm unsure if Article 5 counts if ISIS attacks Turkish soil in Asia, technically. A brief scan of the text mentions attacks on NATO member states that takes place in Europe or North America. Hmm.

Given how Turkey has been looking to join the EU for years now, I'd say there's no doubt they count as Europe in this case.
 

The Lamp

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I can't decide whether I need to cancel my trip to Istanbul next month or not, due to this news and the embassy shooting last week...
 
I'm unsure if Article 5 counts if ISIS attacks Turkish soil in Asia, technically. A brief scan of the text mentions attacks on NATO member states that takes place in Europe or North America. Hmm.

Try the Protocol on the Accession of Turkey 1951:

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_17245.htm

For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:

on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France, on the territory of Turkey or on the islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;
on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in whicH occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer.
 

Jag

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It's like ISIS don't have the slightest idea what they're up against. If this really gets going they'll be utterly vaporized.

They know exactly what they are up against. They are more an ideology than a spot you can bomb.

They are never going away while young people from all over the globe and from all religions, races, etc are still willing to join them.
 

nacimento

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Erdogan must feel disappointed that he can't focus fully on the PKK. Apart from that it must be sad for him to fight his islamist buddies.
 
PKK is a terrorist organization which deserves to be bombed.

Once could also argue that The PKK exists because since 1923 Turkey has had a policy of being against the Kurds. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be. Technically speaking, yes the PKK is on a terrorist list.

Erdogan has been bombing Syria and northern Iraq since July 25th, since then only 1 of the operations was against ISIS, the rest of the operations against the Kurds.

Go figure.
 

Machine

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LOL at referencing westerners as "Crusaders." The Crusades were from 1095 to 1291. Are they still bitter about something that happened that long ago?
 
Guess Turkey's attempt to give wink winks to terrorists using their country as a freeway while still trying to show the rest of the world they don't like terrorists hasn't worked out.
 

Sajjaja

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Eh, one of those evil guys mentioned this in that VICE documentary, Inside the Islamic State, I believe it was. Mentioned Turkey closing up the water way as they control a major dam. Probably has something to do with that. Was only a matter of time anyways, wonder if it means Turkey will send troops into Iraq and Syria like ISIS wants.
 
Once could also argue that The PKK exists because since 1923 Turkey has had a policy of being against the Kurds. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be. Technically speaking, yes the PKK is on a terrorist list.

Erdogan has been bombing Syria and northern Iraq since July 25th, since then only 1 of the operations was against ISIS, the rest of the operations against the Kurds.

Go figure.

One could also argue that The Taliban exists because since 70s USA has had a policy of being against the soviets. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be. Technically speaking, yes the Taliban is on a terrorist list.
 
Ugh.

NATO attacking ISIS supports the Crusader v. Muslims narrative.

We need Arabs, Muslims, etc. to attack ISIS and defeat them. But they seem unwilling. Bill Maher complained about this last Friday.
 

ScaryMonsters

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Ugh.

NATO attacking ISIS supports the Crusader v. Muslims narrative.

We need Arabs, Muslims, etc. to attack ISIS and defeat them. But they seem unwilling. Bill Maher complained about this last Friday.

Agreed. The problem is that ISIS is somewhat tolerated by sunni leaders (ex. Saudi arabia) because they are causing mayhem in shiite regions.
 
Good, now Erdogan can intensify his bombing of the kurds I mean ISIS.

There are many different Kurdish groups. Turkey isn't bombing the Kurds, they are bombing the PKK, a terrorist organization.

Time and place. There is no need to bomb them when they are currently fighting ISIS. Attacking them at that time was helping ISIS who were pressured by the PKK.

PKK started first after the Suruc bombing, even before that they had been provoking Turks into conflict. There is a need to bomb them when they start killing Turkish soldiers.

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Once could also argue that The PKK exists because since 1923 Turkey has had a policy of being against the Kurds. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be. Technically speaking, yes the PKK is on a terrorist list.

Erdogan has been bombing Syria and northern Iraq since July 25th, since then only 1 of the operations was against ISIS, the rest of the operations against the Kurds.

Go figure.

The PKK has no reason to exist in this day and age. Kurds are represented by both AKP and HDP MP's in parliament.
 
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