• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

GT Countdown: Top Ten Straight Up Villains

O

Onesimos

Member
Gametrailers.com has recently posted its new GT Countdown, this time on "straight up" villains.

"Some villains are misunderstood; these are not. We may love to hate them, but we still hate them a lot."

10.
Lavos (Chrono Trigger)
09.
Bowser (Super Mario)
08.
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)
07.
Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)
06.
Psycho Mantis (Metal Gear Solid)
05.
Xehanort (Kingdom Hearts)
04.
The Lich King (World of Warcraft)
03.
Liquid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
02.
Kefka (Final Fantasy)
01.
Ganon (Legend of Zelda)

Any thoughts on the choices?
 
Doczu

Doczu

Member
FZZpure said:
Where is Gary Motherfucking Oak?
Click to expand...

Because he's not bad. Just misunderstood.

c0ff1bda2a543f054f7b83896f9dc3fe.jpg
 
C

CaviarMeths

Member
I usually don't agree at all with GT's countdowns, but this one is quite good.

Could be argued that Bowser isn't straight up villain though. I mean, he talks a big game, but at the end of the day, he's cool with just chilling and playing some tennis or kart racing with his buddy Mario.
 
M

manueldelalas

Time Traveler
10. Lavos (Chrono Trigger)
09. Bowser (Super Mario)
08. Sephiroth (Final Fantasy)
07. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)
06. Psycho Mantis (Metal Gear Solid)
05. Xehanort (Kingdom Hearts)
04. The Lich King (World of Warcraft)
03. Liquid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
02. Kefka (Final Fantasy)
01. Ganon (Legend of Zelda)

Ganon, really? Kefka is awesome though.
 
Z

ZeroTheShadow

Member
I swear people never actually played FF6. Kefka is such a terrible one dimensional shallow villain. Dude is straight out of a crappy saturday morning cartoon. Ever other word out of his mouth is seriously just "Kill them! Get them! Destroy Them!" and laughing. He's so cliche it hurts. Maybe when you're 12 years old you think that makes him a good villain but we're freakin adults now. Completely impossible to take that character seriously. "Fooey there is sand in my boots!" ~ Kefka 1994. He is a joke.
 
F

fredrancour

Member
Hours Left said:
Ganon? Bowser??? They're practically heroes now.

And no Luca Blight? :/
Click to expand...

What? Bowser's sports tour adventures are one thing, but ganon? the closest thing he's ever been given to a not-unilaterally-evil motive is the wind waker monologue, and even then that's still basically "my jealousy of people with better lives than me inspired me to apocalyptic levels of vengeance," which isn't actually redeeming in any way.
 
K

Keasar

Member
Missing one of my all-time favourites.

Handsome Jack.
HandsomeJack01.jpg
Click to expand...
Say what you want about the overall story of Borderlands 2, but Handsome Jack took the total cake of great antagonist. Funny, in your face, devious and smart. I loved this guy.
 
H

Hours Left

Member
ZeroTheShadow said:
I swear people never actually played FF6. Kefka is such a terrible one dimensional shallow villain. Dude is straight out of a crappy saturday morning cartoon. Ever other word out of his mouth is seriously just "Kill them! Get them! Destroy Them!" and laughing. He's so cliche it hurts. Maybe when you're 12 years old you think that makes him a good villain but we're freakin adults now. Completely impossible to take that character seriously. "Fooey there is sand in my boots!" ~ Kefka 1994. He is a joke.
Click to expand...
There's a reason he is referred to as The Mad Clown. It shows what can happen when someone as unhinged as he has access to unlimited power. He rode the Emperor's coattails until he could steal the spotlight for himself and literally use the world as his plaything.

fredrancour said:
What? Bowser's sports tour adventures are one thing, but ganon? the closest thing he's ever been given to a not-unilaterally-evil motive is the wind waker monologue, and even then that's still basically "my jealousy of people with better lives than me inspired me to apocalyptic levels of vengeance," which isn't actually redeeming in any way.
Click to expand...
Ganon has been given sympathetic backstory enough times that he's moved out of the evil entity category into some sort of possible anti-hero limbo. When I think of him now I don't immediately think "pure evil".
 
M

manueldelalas

Time Traveler
ZeroTheShadow said:
I swear people never actually played FF6. Kefka is such a terrible one dimensional shallow villain. Dude is straight out of a crappy saturday morning cartoon. Ever other word out of his mouth is seriously just "Kill them! Get them! Destroy Them!" and laughing. He's so cliche it hurts. Maybe when you're 12 years old you think that makes him a good villain but we're freakin adults now. Completely impossible to take that character seriously. "Fooey there is sand in my boots!" ~ Kefka 1994. He is a joke.
Click to expand...
Opinions, how do they work?
 
S

SeanTSC

Member
ZeroTheShadow said:
I swear people never actually played FF6. Kefka is such a terrible one dimensional shallow villain. Dude is straight out of a crappy saturday morning cartoon. Ever other word out of his mouth is seriously just "Kill them! Get them! Destroy Them!" and laughing. He's so cliche it hurts. Maybe when you're 12 years old you think that makes him a good villain but we're freakin adults now. Completely impossible to take that character seriously. "Fooey there is sand in my boots!" ~ Kefka 1994. He is a joke.
Click to expand...

Kefka is just a lame and weak version Albedo.

*ducks*.
 
F

fredrancour

Member
Hours Left said:
Ganon has been given sympathetic backstory enough times that he's moved out of the evil entity category into some sort of possible anti-hero limbo. When I think of him now I don't immediately think "pure evil".
Click to expand...

i am literally drawing a complete blank on any examples of this sort. i guess it is time for me to get lost in a zelda wiki of some kind for a few minutes.
 
H

Hours Left

Member
fredrancour said:
i am literally drawing a complete blank on any examples of this sort. i guess it is time for me to get lost in a zelda wiki of some kind for a few minutes.
Click to expand...
It's not really spelled out in a lot of the games themselves too strongly besides Wind Waker, but there's enough evidence to suggest that he was once someone who primarily sought to save his people from a life of suffering, but was corrupted by the Triforce of Power.

I'm probably overselling it a bit, since a lot of it is via deduction, but when I see Ganondorf, I don't immediately think he's some twisted villain the exists purely for evil, at least not always.
 
U

unknownstranger

Member
Enter the Dragon Punch said:
04... really?

Like I fucking LOVE Arthas but I think Sargeras would have been a far better choice
Click to expand...

I haven't played any of the Warcraft RTS's, but Sargeras shouldn't be anywhere near this list. Yes he's the strongest villan in WoW, but he still hasn't really done shit, just his followers. Maybe whenever he himself has a significant role in an expansion he can be on this list.
 
Dr. Buni

Dr. Buni

Member
No Metal Face (Xenoblade Chronicles) is laughable.

There are so many better villains in gaming than the ones listed, they are just not as popular. The list should be "Top 10 Most Popular Villains".
 
S

SeanTSC

Member
Reila said:
No Metal Face (Xenoblade Chronicles) is laughable.

There are so many better villains in gaming than the ones listed, they are just not as popular. The list should be "Top 10 Most Popular Villains".
Click to expand...

It's GT's Top 10 of their personal experiences and preferences and views.

Metal Face may have been on there if we could convince Ben to stop playing Hearthstone and finally play Xenoblade.
 
F

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I always loved that ganondorf basically grew up and was trained by a race entirely of women.


Does anybody else get chills when you finally get to ganondorf in twilight princess, just the way he sits on the throne with his head resting on his hand and then he stands up like sucha badass mofo
 
F

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Hours Left said:
There's a reason he is referred to as The Mad Clown. It shows what can happen when someone as unhinged as he has access to unlimited power. He rode the Emperor's coattails until he could steal the spotlight for himself and literally use the world as his plaything.


Ganon has been given sympathetic backstory enough times that he's moved out of the evil entity category into some sort of possible anti-hero limbo. When I think of him now I don't immediately think "pure evil".
Click to expand...
Ganon was literally reincarnated out of pure hatred from THE demon of the zelda series.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Modern Vintage Gamer: Playing Retro Emulators on the Nintendo 64
Retro Trailer Hardware
1
534
magnumpy replied
Spain Sales, Week 3 2024 - PS5 12k
20
1K
Esppiral replied
Ranking The Half-Life Games From Worst To Best - Every Cancelled Half-Life Game
Opinion Analysis Trailer
12
1K
simpatico replied
Modern Vintage Gamer: The BEST Emulators of 2023
Opinion Trailer
1
535
SantaC replied
pannenkoek2012 - Super Mario 64 Invisible Walls Explained Once and for All
Opinion Analysis Trailer
33
2K
Dacvak replied
Top Bottom