i believe it was a strange rpg from konami? i remember it being discussed in the same way elebits was.
just let it go christ
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The Wii was such a good console.
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i believe it was a strange rpg from konami? i remember it being discussed in the same way elebits was.
just let it go christ
JordanN
Banned
Looking back, I use to hate the Wii. But after seeing the direction Nintendo took with Wii U and 3DS, I actually miss it now.
For all the faults of the system, at least Nintendo was making a lot of games for it. It puzzles me why were they so quick to jump into HD instead of trying to milk the Wii more, especially when they were the same ones who always warned "if you go HD, you'll have less games to play!"
For all the faults of the system, at least Nintendo was making a lot of games for it. It puzzles me why were they so quick to jump into HD instead of trying to milk the Wii more, especially when they were the same ones who always warned "if you go HD, you'll have less games to play!"
brandonh83
Banned
Yep. Mario Galaxy, Mario Galaxy 2, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, and Metroid Prime 3 are some of the best games I've ever played. It literally gave me my two favorite Zelda games.
Sparrowhawk
Member
You're right about it being a strange RPG, but it's from Koei.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Like I said, I was 10 when PS2 came out compared to 16 for Wii so I don't recall as much but I believe it. What I was arguing was that the PS2 had higher quality 3rd party support than the Wii which is one reason why I consider it to have a weak line up outside of the Nintendo stuff. Even the 1st party games were disappointing compared to what the GCN had in my opinion and I think a lot of that was on the control scheme. I am not a big fan of waggle at all.
Excitebots was the shit, hope they make a sequel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opoona
and lol, telling me to let it go meanwhile the guy is still moving goal posts by claiming now the reason he didn't like shit was because of waggle.
Porcile
Member
Opoona is a very quirky JRPG developed by ArtePiazza (co-developers of a number Dragon Quest games). You can play the game one-handed using just the Wii Nunchuk. Overall, it's a simple but really fun game, with great character and world design and an outstanding soundtrack by famed composer Hitoshi Sakimoto. Totally underrated.
i think they weren't expecting hd to hit them so hard. like, i think wii u development was so difficult that it caused ripple effects that delayed the 3ds and wii u at the same time. basically it threw off their entire generation and theoretically they are only getting in control of schedules now with consolidating everything.
Cipher Peon
Banned
The Wii was an AWESOME console and my second favorite Nintendo home console. So many classics and I still haven't played them all.
So many amazing games that I'll carry on in my head for the rest of my life. Last generation was my favorite gen for Nintendo and while this gen has been a step down, I am happy with the direction current Nintendo is going.
I'd rank them as the following:
N64 > Wii > Gamecube > Wii U > NES > SNES
So many amazing games that I'll carry on in my head for the rest of my life. Last generation was my favorite gen for Nintendo and while this gen has been a step down, I am happy with the direction current Nintendo is going.
I'd rank them as the following:
N64 > Wii > Gamecube > Wii U > NES > SNES
I always forget how good the Wii was until I look at my games shelf and realize how many good to great games I own for the system. And I have more Wii games than any other system.
I think it's sad that so many gamers wrote it off so quickly. They played Wii Sports and said, "This waggle is horrible! The Wii is horrible!" and then proceeded to ignore the system and its games, and then went on to ignorantly claim that it had no games except for a handful of Nintendo's usual suspects.
I mean I've seen it so many times. Someone will say, "I hated the Wii! I never played it! I had one and it just sat there and collected dust!" as if they're almost proud of the fact. You ask what they hated about it, and you usually get a wildly misinformed opinion on motion controls ("I don't want to swing my arms around to play a game!" - When, in reality, most motion controls were either pointing or quick flicks of the wrist) and complete ignorance as to what the Wii's game library actually contained ("I played Wii Sports, Mario Galaxy, and Smash, and that's all it had! Well, that, and tons of shovelware!").
And it's just a shame that it seems like 90% of gamers out there are like this.
I do wish Nintendo's had the foresight to anticipate the age of HDTVs, and thus given it enough power to run the same graphical fidelity in 720p. Then the games would've aged a little bit better. But as far as the games go, it was a pretty great system.
I think it's sad that so many gamers wrote it off so quickly. They played Wii Sports and said, "This waggle is horrible! The Wii is horrible!" and then proceeded to ignore the system and its games, and then went on to ignorantly claim that it had no games except for a handful of Nintendo's usual suspects.
I mean I've seen it so many times. Someone will say, "I hated the Wii! I never played it! I had one and it just sat there and collected dust!" as if they're almost proud of the fact. You ask what they hated about it, and you usually get a wildly misinformed opinion on motion controls ("I don't want to swing my arms around to play a game!" - When, in reality, most motion controls were either pointing or quick flicks of the wrist) and complete ignorance as to what the Wii's game library actually contained ("I played Wii Sports, Mario Galaxy, and Smash, and that's all it had! Well, that, and tons of shovelware!").
And it's just a shame that it seems like 90% of gamers out there are like this.
I do wish Nintendo's had the foresight to anticipate the age of HDTVs, and thus given it enough power to run the same graphical fidelity in 720p. Then the games would've aged a little bit better. But as far as the games go, it was a pretty great system.
Oh ! Well yeah, multiplatform games was... Inexistant i suppose.
Didn't understood that i confess.
Still don't really care for that since we had a lot of exclusive third game ah ah.
Well....
There is several ways to look at the problem for me.
On 100 games for the Wii, let's say 90 are shovelware, 4 are great Nintendo games and 6 are great/good third party game. What i am saying is "there is 6 great/good third party game and i really loved that console for that, even more than the 4 great Nintendo games albeit some exception !". You seems to be saying "there is 90 shovelware on that system, that's awful !".... Yeah, you're totally right.
But to be honest, they could have made a lot more shovelware than that, it wouldn't change anything to me. I don't really care. The fact is : I played a lot of third party game that i found really cool on that console so for me the third party effort was there. If it was at a price of 90 shovelware, i don't really care, i don't play them....
So..... Where is the problem ? I could make a list of all those 3rd party game but it seems you won't really care either way. (Well, if you care you can tell me as i actually REALLY want to make one ah ah) I'm sure 360/PS3 have far more game.... But to be honest they always seemed to be lacking in term of experimentation for the most part.... Maybe i didn't looked enough ? Still, game like Deadly Creature, Mushroom Mens or Elebits aren't totally welcome on those HD console. If they are not your kind of game, that's totally fine but i don't consider them to be "shovelware" personally.
For me library between the Wii and the 360/PS3 was totally different and i liked that a lot ! If only Nintendo effort wasn't that "average", i would have liked the Wii a lot more since i never minded those motion controller.
Well, looking a bit more, the whole thread seems incredibly tense to be honest so i wouldn't mind if you didn't want to answer....
ah, that was it. yeah, i still have about a dozen games for the wii i'd like to buy/play. deadly creatures is another one but it seems too... weird for me.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Wow you've got quite the mouth on you. Neogaf isn't an echo chamber and this isn't a "only positive comments about the Wii allowed" thread. You got mad, and are still upset, that I don't share the same opinion as you. I gave you a chance to have a civil debate but you've opted to sling mud and post smarmy gifs so I'll put you on ignore. You can have the last word, I know it means a lot to you.
Ah, fair enough. Just going by US releases, I think it's fair to say that of the just-under-4,000 or so PS2 games vs 1,500 Wii games, both have a wealth of licensed turds, but the number of turds on PS2 could well outnumber the entire Wii library. That doesn't mean that there aren't hundreds more PS2 games worth playing too, and is why I think using the worst games a system has to offer to judge it is pointless when even dedicated players rarely venture outside the top 10% or so.
Not that anyone has the time or inclination to tot up the Spongebob/Bratz/Barbie etc games numbers, but I'll gladly concede the point if a dedicated gaffer can prove me wrong!
PS2 had higher quality third-party support than pretty much every other console ever, lol. Going by this logic, every system except for the PS2 has a weak lineup.
Out of curiosity, how many third-party games on the Wii did you actually play?
Deadly Creatures was pretty great, even if it was weird. Worth going back to.
The amount of times you can re-write thread history is hysterical. You gave me a chance to have a civil debate? There's no way to debate with someone that does nothing other than set up strawman arguments. I guess that's how you end your arguments, move goal posts then ignore when you get called out. Adults don't cover their ears when they hear something they don't like.
Sparrowhawk
Member
Deadly Creatures is another game I never got around to playing, but I've heard good things about it.
Has anyone here played Domino Rally or The Munchables? I'm a sucker for quirky games and these look like they could be enjoyable.
JordanN
Banned
They were incredibly naive if they believed HD development wasn't going to slow them down, especially when they got to watch for 5 years what PS3/360 developers were going through.
And that part kinda pissed me.
Wii really is my favorite console . I've been gaming since bea days. Part of the reason I love it is the full GC hardware BC. Combine that with an AMAZING first party lineup and very cool third party exclusives and hundreds of Virtusl Console games? It's a no brainer. Best system
I've never played Deadly Creatures either, I hear good things about it every so often and the weird setup makes me want to give it a try.
I think it suffered by being a case of a crap, generic title making a unique game both look and sound like shovelware when it's actually had a bit of thought put into it.
I think it suffered by being a case of a crap, generic title making a unique game both look and sound like shovelware when it's actually had a bit of thought put into it.
Porcile
Member
Domino Rally is great. I need to rebuy it sometime.
Does Anyone remember Major Minors Majestic March?
It was charming, but not that fantastic.
Wii was a home to a lot of cool third party games though; Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, A Boy and his Blob, No More Heroes (2), Prince of Persia the Forgotten Sands, PES, House of the Dead Overkill, Dead Space Extraction, Bully SE, RE 4 Wii Edition, Okami, Monster Hunter Tri, Trauma Center, Project Zero II, de Blob...
Alex
Member
It was alright, probably my least liked console but I still got use out of it. Played a lot of Mario Galaxy and a few others. Sadly wound up disappointed with most of the titles I was interested in like MH Tri, Last Story, Trauma Team, etc.
I personally do not feel that it had some huge library of hidden Japanese gems, I never really gel with that statement at all as someone who actively went digging often. DS had that, PS2 had that, for me Wii just had a few pieces of attractive mediocrity for it's niche titles hidden among the dumping ground.
I personally do not feel that it had some huge library of hidden Japanese gems, I never really gel with that statement at all as someone who actively went digging often. DS had that, PS2 had that, for me Wii just had a few pieces of attractive mediocrity for it's niche titles hidden among the dumping ground.
SirUltimos
Member
I still a have that sealed? Is that worth playing?
Porcile
Member
Not really, but then it's probably not worth keeping sealed up either! To be honest, it's a cute game but not much else going for it. Give it a go if you are genuinely curious.
SirUltimos
Member
Thanks for the reply. I'll probably give it a go. I found it for $5 years ago and thought it looked interesting enough so I bought it, but I guess I never got around to it.
Sparrowhawk
Member
I love the Wii, but I will say that the ratio of good games to shovelware trash is pretty high.
I fucking loved the SHIT out of Excite Trucks. That game is instantly and eternally replayable and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.
Sin and Punishment 2 was a blast too. That game was greenlit based on the high sales of the N64 prequel on VC, wasn't it?
I ought to mention loving Monster Hunter Tri too, considering I put over a hundred hours into it... but admittedly the Wii U version is far superior.
There were a couple of games I was quite hyped for that I just couldn't get along with. Red Steel was one, of course - good old launch hype got me on that. NiGHTS was another one, that was so unintuitive to me.
Eledees/Elebits was another one. I wouldn't say it was good but it was a novel concept that I was glad I got to play. The Wii had quite a lot of games like that, actually. I'd say Disaster fits under that category too.
Sin and Punishment 2 was a blast too. That game was greenlit based on the high sales of the N64 prequel on VC, wasn't it?
I ought to mention loving Monster Hunter Tri too, considering I put over a hundred hours into it... but admittedly the Wii U version is far superior.
There were a couple of games I was quite hyped for that I just couldn't get along with. Red Steel was one, of course - good old launch hype got me on that. NiGHTS was another one, that was so unintuitive to me.
Eledees/Elebits was another one. I wouldn't say it was good but it was a novel concept that I was glad I got to play. The Wii had quite a lot of games like that, actually. I'd say Disaster fits under that category too.
Oh come on now ! That's just exageration !
Have you heard of the Atari Jaguar ? Or the Gamesom ? Or EVEN the Virtual Boy ?
A lot of console are far worst....
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Probably the worst console I've ever owned. It was terrible and has made me stay far away from Nintendo recently.
SenatorBot
Member
Since this is a living Wii thread might as well ask here, are there any fun party/horror games to play on the Wii with a group of friends/people?
I'm going to be bringing a wii to a halloween thing in a few days and I'm trying to gather a list of good stuff to play for a few hours.
I'm going to be bringing a wii to a halloween thing in a few days and I'm trying to gather a list of good stuff to play for a few hours.
Nailed it.
Porcile
Member
House of the Dead?
MrCunningham
Member
There's no emulation when running GameCube and Wii games on the Wii-U. It is all done through real hardware backwards compatibility and not a software compatibility layer like Xbox One BC. Apparently the Wii-U CPU are based on same PowerPC 750 architecture that is also used in the Wii and the GameCube. But I don;t own a Wii-U myself, so I can;t comment on what the video output is like for Wii and GameCue games. I hear it is not so good though.
Sparrowhawk
Member
One of my favorite party games of all time is Dokapon Kingdom. You know how people say that Mario Party turns friends into enemies? Dokapon is like this, but a hundred times worse. You will get SO MAD.
SenatorBot
Member
Ah forgot about that one, thanks a lot.
Meesh
Member
What's weird for me is I like the WiiU hardware more than Wii... But preferred Wiis games and overall experience. Looking at the Wii and WiiU era breaks my heart, Nintendo couldn't quite hit the nail on the head for their core gamers I feel with either box. I know those will disagree, there'll be lists of games to prove otherwise... It's just I haven't been satisfied with their hardware since GC. I have high hopes for NX, guess we'll see...
TheLastCandle
Member
Game is one of my wife and I's favorites. It is fucking EVIL. Evil and awesome.
I said one of... not the worst.
Airola
Member
If you're interested, here are my Wii retail, WiiWare and VC lists, and comments of each list:
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Retail (36 games)
A Boy And His Blob
Agatha Christie: And Then There Were None
Agatha Christie: Evil Under the Sun
Animal Crossing: Let's Go to the City
Boom Blox
Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars - The Director's Cut
Bully: Scholarship Edition
Cursed Mountain
Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop
Kirby's Adventure Wii
Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Mario Party 9
Mario Sports Mix
Metroid: Other M
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Punch-Out!!
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel 2
Resident Evil
Resident Evil -The Umbrella Chronicles
Rockband 3
Sam & Max Season One
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Sonic Colours - Limited Edition
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Wario Land: The Shake Dimension
Wii Fit
Wii Fit Plus
Wii Play
Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resort
Xenoblade Chronicles
Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure
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Of that list, the worst game is Mario Sports Mix. That's probably the only one I can't stand at all. Not that interested in that Legend of Guardians game either. And I bought Rockband 3 only because of the midi keyboard.
The best are the Agatha Christie games, Boom Blox, Broken Sword, NSMB Wii, Resident Evil, Super Mario Galaxy, Wii Sports, Wii Fit and Zack & Wiki. I love them all.
Smash Brawl was a disappointment. Super Mario Galaxy was a bit of a disappointment too, although still a very good game. Xenoblade was brilliant for the first 10 hours until I grew up hating the battle system. I would love to continue that game but I just know I wouldn't be able to get into the battle mechanics. Still, one of the best 10 hours I've ever had in an RPG.
Wario Land was really good, but the "run back to the beginning" thing at the end of each level made me stop playing it.
Wii Sports Resort was quite good, but I noticed I liked the controls much more before the inclusion of Motion Plus. And I really noticed that while playing Wii Sports Club on the Wii U. Hitting the ball in tennis just doesn't feel as good as it felt in the original game. Sometimes it's just better for a game to be more arcade-like than try to aim for realism.
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WiiWare (10 games)
Bubble Bobble Plus!
Cave Story
Equilibrio
La-Mulana
LIT
Mega Man 9
Mega Man 10
Sexy Poker
Toki Tori
TV Show King
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Didn't buy many WiiWare games but I always loved checking out what games were released. I'm still thinking of buying all the "Rebirth" and other new versions of classic games before the service ends (I'm sure they'll cut it at some point in future).
Of the games I bought, La-Mulana is my favorite. It actually became my favorite game in the whole history of video games.
Loved Cave Story. Bubble Bobble Plus was awesome. Toki Tori was fantastic. I even enjoyed Sexy Poker. Equilibrio might be the worst game of the bunch.
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Virtual Console (23 games)
ARCADE:
The Tower of Druaga
C64:
Impossible Mission
Jumpman
Last Ninja 3
Mayhem in Monsterland
N64:
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
NES:
Bubble Bobble
Mega Man
Mega Man 3
Mega Man 4
Probotector II -Return of the Evil Forces
StarTropics
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
Ufouria: THE SAGA
Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II
SEGA MEGA DRIVE:
Comix Zone
SNES:
Final Fantasy III
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Mario's Super Picross
Pilotwings
Super Mario World
TURBOGRAFX-16:
Neutopia II
Ys Book I & II
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I love Virtual Console! Such a big amount of both known classic and less known obscure games for many systems. Had lots of fun just seeing every week what games were released even if I didn't have much money to buy a lot of them. Sure, there were rough weeks here and there, but in retrospect the Wii VC library is pretty damn amazing.
All in all, I was a somewhat poor student during the Wii years, so I didn't get too much games. There are still many retail, WiiWare and Virtual Console games I'd like to get at some point. For example, I've always been interested in those Endless Ocean games.
The full Wii library stands even today as quite an interesting thing. Sure, there are lots of bad games, but when it gets good it really gets good. And those good games are all quite different from whatever big and popular titles get released on the rival consoles. And among the good and bad there are some really obscure stuff available. I guess of all the other consoles (both home systems and handhelds) perhaps PS Vita has an interesting library like that.
As I mentioned earlier, the usual big games don't do anything for me, so for me to get PS4 or Xbox One instead of a Nintendo console, or even as a second console, doesn't quite make sense. I tried P.T. at a friend's home and loved it though, but even that isn't available anymore. I would probably only buy indie games for those machines, which I could also get on my PC too. And Fallout 4 will be available on PC too.
So, after this big rambling, to answer your question shortly:
Nintendo was able to provide me both good retro games and good first party retail games with occasional interesting 3rd party game here and there, whereas the big hitters of other consoles were mostly the same I had grown a major disinterest into way back in the PS2/GC/DC/Xbox era. Didn't even care about Nintendo back then (except what I could play on my old NES).
You really underestimate the console market.
Solid Samus
Banned
The Wii is my favorite modern gaming console and nothing will ever change that I reckon. In the end I ended up enjoying the Wii's lineup more than the PS3's and 360s. And the PS2's. And the PS1's. And the SNES's. And the NES's. Shit, the Wii might actually be my favorite home console of all time. So many awesome games that complimented alternative console lineups very well. So many new looks or new takes on my favorite old game franchises. So many hidden gems and quirky, personality-filled games. So easy to blow the fucking doors off that console and mod the everloving shit out of it.
What I wouldn't give to have another console like the Wii to compliment my PC. Right now, all I got is the Wii U, and it's a poor replacement.
Wii does not even rank in the top 20 worst video game consoles
What I wouldn't give to have another console like the Wii to compliment my PC. Right now, all I got is the Wii U, and it's a poor replacement.
Wii does not even rank in the top 20 worst video game consoles
It's a little JRPG with lots of "heart" and an amazing OST by Hitoshi Sakimoto.
Like Earthbound a lot of its charm is due to its quirkiness.
User 479360
Banned
I was really excited about it when it was first announced and then when it launched, but my interest in it lessened pretty quickly. The motion gimmicks, the shitty controls, the shovelware...
It had some really good games -- a few I still need to get to -- but I didn't have much desire to play it. It was definitely my least favourite last gen and I prefer Wii U to it, even though I don't love the Wii brand in general.
It had some really good games -- a few I still need to get to -- but I didn't have much desire to play it. It was definitely my least favourite last gen and I prefer Wii U to it, even though I don't love the Wii brand in general.
abercrombie
Member
I agree OP, the Wii is great and brought me back to TV consoles. It has the largest library on my shelf with over 30 titles (plus the games bought through the virtual console).
One small drawback I find is the Virtual Console wasn't fully realized. I really wanted it to be a little more in depth but there is plenty available that I can forget what is missing.
Its lack of HD is its biggest complaint I have. I didn't care at first but as I upgraded my living room its SD flaws were magnified.
Still a great console IMO and I am still coming back to it, albeit in BC on the WiiU.
One small drawback I find is the Virtual Console wasn't fully realized. I really wanted it to be a little more in depth but there is plenty available that I can forget what is missing.
Its lack of HD is its biggest complaint I have. I didn't care at first but as I upgraded my living room its SD flaws were magnified.
Still a great console IMO and I am still coming back to it, albeit in BC on the WiiU.