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First cabot is on "Red Flag tier scum list" and now you don't know. Which is it?
You are scum.
I don't know about Cabot, but in reading eerythin hr says three tines
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You are scum.
I don't know about Cabot, but in reading eerythin hr says three tines
Andodalf
Banned
Thanks. I suspected as much, but said I voted for you till I knew, wanted to keep my word.
Slips aren't scumtells, but they are most definitely anti-town.
I expect you to be on to things where such a thing as fucking up names doesnt exist. You need to do better. Being on your red flag list for noticing slips is a bit of a pain in the arse.
Andodalf
Banned
Please explain how calling someone by the wrong name hurts the town? I'd genuinely like to know. If it has any ulterior motive, it would be that it allows him to establish himself as experienced, so much so that some people run together.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Okay, is it just me, or does it seem like it's only the same few faces arguing over and over right now? Because I really don't know why very few people are talking.
It isn't a scum tell or a discussion point for me mixing up a name with someone who isn't even playing. Jesus, people are mixing up names all over the place with the roster changes. If you try to discredit me for that, you are being disgenuine and your motives are questionable
Yes, there's a lot of inactivity from certain players. Rolanderson has just posted once, and it was a weird one at that. The werewolves can take advantage of the chaos to lie low while Town are arguing over stupid crap and targeting players over nothing.
I wonder who is causing the most chaos and stalling discussion the most right now.
How does making slips help town? have you read any previous games?
El Topo made about a hundred slips in Election, and I read that as scummy, but he was lynched and flipped town.
Hyper did it in MGS, why would you excuse slips? It confuses the matters at best, it intentionally misdirects at worst.
You've made some slips so far, so I guess you questioning this makes sense. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why it can cause problems though.
I'm scum #2, you've hit it. Good job.
Oh wait, maybe its because slips can cause unnecessary confusion.
We haven't heard from StarSketch either. No comment at all about batsnacks's post regarding her. Which is curious.
CornBurrito
Member
Uh... it doesn't but accidents happen?
They've made the same accident before in this very thread.
It is a very small confusion that we are all more than capable of working with. I hope you realize you're defending Flux. How do you feel about Flux? And RNH, Ultron?
A lot of where players stand in relation to each other has been established, but I haven't heard anything from you aside from when you replied to cabot's preliminary list. What are your feelings?
RNH isn't really setting off any warning flags yet, Flux is being weird but I'm still unsure whether thats jitters or genuine scumminess. Ultron hasn't giving me anything to read, he's effectively a null.
Right, and calling people out on these slips early is bad because....?
I'M the one being weird? The one being overly aggressive and overly defensive isn't? Because this is how he always acts?
You're being mislead. I swear, whether or not Darryl is a werewolf or town is starting to not matter, because he's an enemy to town no matter what he is. I have a feeling we'll realize that soon enough.
Andodalf
Banned
yeah, when one of our bodies turns up town.
CornBurrito
Member
Actually yeah, thats kind of how weird/normal work.
But yeah I've never played with Darryl and a lot of his recent posts are leaving me kind of flaccid.
You're doing a piss poor job of it, too.
I don't know if I'm following how you arrived here...
Is it because you think flux is mafia and since you think flux is mafia you assume he will fake claim roleblocker to bring an innocent townie down with him?
I wasn't kidding about Salty Werewolf. I don't think I'm being paranoid when I say I was the most likely person to get targeted by multiple people. I guess it could have been Darryl.
The newbies are scaring me, but I'm assuming it's because they're newbies.
No, no one claimed roleblocker to off a scum. So it must be a mafia power role.
Darrly pls.
Just ignore it if you have something to say
Okay that's the answer I was looking for. Good job. Carry on.
Why don't you put some words out there? You've said basically nothing at all. Just sitting on the sidelines, are you?
CornBurrito
Member
So for actual reads:
Darryl strikes me as too aggressive to be scum. He's making himself prime target for any investigative roles. However this makes him a bit dangerous. He takes charge and tries to lead discussion. If he's right, then that's wonderful for town. If he is wrong, mafia will simply keep him alive as he poisons town from the inside.Meanwhile if mafia has some way to spoof investigate results, if he was mafia he could have us fooled the whole game.
He's not the lynch target for D1. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I lean town.
Cabot is... idk I'm having some trouble trusting him. He's been agreeing with me a lot, and I don't know if that is due to genuinely agreeing with me, or an attempt to butter me up since I'm weak against such tactics. I wouldn't rule him out as being scum, but he's no D1 lynch target for me.
Flux: I was convinced somewhat to throw a Flux vote during the whole argument with Darryl. I'm less sure on that now based on the exchange between him and Andodolf. Sadly (I hate to do this to a newbie) he is a suitable D1 target if nobody else comes up.
Andodolf: Darryl seems convinced the defense of Flux and came from a new player just trying to figure out what to do. That very much could be it. But I feel Ando is a strong candidate for D1 lynch.
I don't really have good reads on anyone else. I feel like only a few people are standing out to me right now. But I'll try and reread the thread and see where things go.
Also Makai, I swear I'm not salty about Dangan. That was like... months ago.
Darryl strikes me as too aggressive to be scum. He's making himself prime target for any investigative roles. However this makes him a bit dangerous. He takes charge and tries to lead discussion. If he's right, then that's wonderful for town. If he is wrong, mafia will simply keep him alive as he poisons town from the inside.Meanwhile if mafia has some way to spoof investigate results, if he was mafia he could have us fooled the whole game.
He's not the lynch target for D1. But he is someone to keep an eye on. I lean town.
Cabot is... idk I'm having some trouble trusting him. He's been agreeing with me a lot, and I don't know if that is due to genuinely agreeing with me, or an attempt to butter me up since I'm weak against such tactics. I wouldn't rule him out as being scum, but he's no D1 lynch target for me.
Flux: I was convinced somewhat to throw a Flux vote during the whole argument with Darryl. I'm less sure on that now based on the exchange between him and Andodolf. Sadly (I hate to do this to a newbie) he is a suitable D1 target if nobody else comes up.
Andodolf: Darryl seems convinced the defense of Flux and came from a new player just trying to figure out what to do. That very much could be it. But I feel Ando is a strong candidate for D1 lynch.
I don't really have good reads on anyone else. I feel like only a few people are standing out to me right now. But I'll try and reread the thread and see where things go.
Also Makai, I swear I'm not salty about Dangan. That was like... months ago.
I think I've expressed what I think of the whole "How did no one die?" discussion. Didn't see a reason to chime in. I'm mildly suspicious of Flux due to his behavior and Andodalf due to his slip of tongue, but that is basically nothing and I won't read too much into D1 behaviour. We do however need a lynch candidate and whoever we pick I think it would be best if we could agree on one early enough, so the player has time to defend himself and we can avoid the D1 scenario from Archer.
By the way, is there a counter for the end of the day somewhere?
I strongly disagree with an Andodalf lynch on the basis that he is 1) new and 2) one of the posting-est people. That's really all I need not to vote him day 1. Yeah it's weird that he "scumslipped" and said "we wolves" but imo that's not a valid argument for why he could be a wolf.
Who else would get targeted by a protector and a Werewolf? This is a better explanation than random chance.
Andodalf
Banned
Darryl
Who.
CornBurrito
Member
Personally I didn't think anything of the "we wolves" comment. I agree with you though batsnacks. He is new, and he is contributing a lot.
Cabot? Darryl? Any of the returning players are likely.
I've already said that if I were a wolf my target would have been cabot. Every returning player has biases, and I imagine a returning player made mafia's kill decision.
Maybe we should all play a game. If you were mafia, who would YOU have targeted N0 and why?
Cabot? Darryl? Any of the returning players are likely.
I've already said that if I were a wolf my target would have been cabot. Every returning player has biases, and I imagine a returning player made mafia's kill decision.
Maybe we should all play a game. If you were mafia, who would YOU have targeted N0 and why?
Andodalf
Banned
pretty much Darryl's whole list.
Your main crime is being Darryl's target. You being scum gives him great power, you being town takes a lot away.
CornBurrito
Member
Oddly enough, at one point I thought his flip would confirm you as scum. Then he voted for you.
I think one of you is probably scum, but not both. Could be neither.
I will say though that Flux is being treated a bit unfairly. Like Ando makes a mistake and gets "he's just a new player trying to find his roots." Flux posts an overzealous defense of himself and the assumption is he is scum trying to protect himself. Why is nobody giving him the benefit of the doubt? He really can't also be a new player who is trying to find his roots and who doesn't want to die before the game has barely even begun? That's bogus.
Also batsnacks mentions being against an Ando lynch because Ando is new and is posting a lot. Fair enough points. I'd agree. But how does that not hold true for Flux?
My apologizes for that. We've had a winter snowstorm in Michigan today, so I've had to give my grandmother extra attention. It's hard to reply on my tablet too, so I try to wait until I'm at my PC to do so.
There is of course you and Darryl going at it, and we have a number of people not really posting that much. I don't really think we have enough information to safely lynch someone on the claim of being scum, so I'm kind of looking at it from the angle of "Who is being most useful to the town right now?"
That being said, I am getting incredibly fucking infuriated at Darryl's aggressiveness without really explaining anything until after he's called out. It's making the conversation hard to read, and it's giving me a headache IRL. I really wish he'd be more clear about his reasoning even if he's aggressive, and if it continues into late game I'm going to treat it as a scumtell.
Andodolf... I don't know. He's active, but he's a bit odd. I can't really tell if I'd want to lynch him or not. I don't consider slipups themselves a sign of a scumtell, especially seeing as some people probably post from mobile.
cabot I don't really know, so I'll have to defer to others on until late game. But CornBurrito and Darryl both seem to know him and have made comments on him.
We do have a full day left, so it might be wise to use that up providing we don't just go in circles.
Thank you.
CornBurrito
Member
Eh this is dangerous sort of thinking. Darryl acts confident, and he may even be right about Flux. That does not make his word gospel.
I have no idea how Darryl made so many people twirl around his finger like this to go with whatever he says as though it's the law, but it's intriguing.
Even if it gets me lynched, I will make it my goal to eliminate him. He's dangerous. Hell, I'll go ahead and accept that everyone vote for me right now, on the condition that when I turn up Town, everyone makes 100% sure to immediately lynch Darryl.
Andodalf
Banned
I Know :I I'm not sure what to do, but I feel like I can't ignore darryl. I was against him at first, I voted Darrly, but I feel that He is such a boon to the town if he is town, and we need to vet his first call, even if it is unfair to flux.
Xamtheking
Member
I have my suspicions that Flux is a power role