The Faceless Master
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they want a Black character but want the Green Lantern to be white.
someone had to get cut.
blame the Hal stans.
someone had to get cut.
blame the Hal stans.
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Why is WB sidelining Martian Manhunter for DCCU?
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It doesn't get more diverse than a man that's both green and black.
Frozen Canadian
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Aw man I want black guy Green Lantern. He's dope in the Animated Universe back in the day
neogaffer1
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his name is Jon Stewart
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
But....John Stewart is like the only green lantern the general public cares about
Frozen Canadian
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I was scared I was gonna spell out the Daily Show one
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I mean:
There were better choices.
Is that robo ganondorf
Schweinehund
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The founding members are likely
J'onn was always too similar to superman and he got overshadowed by him quite a bit, even in the comics. The only MMH arc I read in JL that I enjoyed was Joe Kelly's run, and New Frontier. He was a lot better fit in JLI.
Arguably Shazam is also too similar to Superman but he's a bit more different in his childlike demeanor and is more tilted toward magic than he was as Captain Marvel. I don't think he'll be showing up until JL: Part two as well.
Just the trinity according to rumors, they form the league at the end of BvS
J'onn was always too similar to superman and he got overshadowed by him quite a bit, even in the comics. The only MMH arc I read in JL that I enjoyed was Joe Kelly's run, and New Frontier. He was a lot better fit in JLI.
Arguably Shazam is also too similar to Superman but he's a bit more different in his childlike demeanor and is more tilted toward magic than he was as Captain Marvel. I don't think he'll be showing up until JL: Part two as well.
Bruh
Instead of getting mad at fictional characters for taking other fictional character's spots in fictional films, why not be mad at DC for not including him in the movie in addition to the other characters? Unless there's some story reason why there couldn't have been 1 more founding member?
exmachina64
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But Hal Jordan was the central focus of Geoff Johns' Green Lantern for like 6 years by the the time New 52 came around.
As far as the movies go, we're getting a Green Lantern Corps movie for a reason - gives them an out instead of having to pick a single one.
neogaffer1
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JL cartoon had seven founding members, Nu52 JL had seven founding members, and this will probably have seven founding members
Zen_Arcade
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They probably feel like they need to ease themselves into the more obscure/weird characters like Marvel did. It's probably not the worst idea. They're getting their most well known characters set up first. Hopefully he pops up in Justice League 2 when all of the well known JL characters are established and they need to introduce new blood.
There's a difference between an actual black guy who gets superpowered and an alien that puts on blackface to blend in. I mean I'm being facetious, but if we're talking about being inclusive, including an actual black character probably comes off a lot better.
Schweinehund
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What did he mean by this?
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Kal already covers the alien refugee angle, why have another one?
In the New 52, J'onn is still fairly present and powerful, but Cyborg in the role of tech overseer makes a lot more sense and he can serve a greater overall purpose in the League due to his new ties to Apokalips and otherworldy technology.
I think Manhunter has a lot of opportunity to appear in the DCCU. Perhaps as a servant of Darkseid or prisoner of Brainiac that breaks free and assists the League. Who knows what could happen? No need to take David Goyer's word as law.
Naw breh, Coogler's gonna pull it off. If only Michael B had taken the role instead of Fan4stic. But I'm sure Ray Fisher will do great.
In the New 52, J'onn is still fairly present and powerful, but Cyborg in the role of tech overseer makes a lot more sense and he can serve a greater overall purpose in the League due to his new ties to Apokalips and otherworldy technology.
I think Manhunter has a lot of opportunity to appear in the DCCU. Perhaps as a servant of Darkseid or prisoner of Brainiac that breaks free and assists the League. Who knows what could happen? No need to take David Goyer's word as law.
Naw breh, Coogler's gonna pull it off. If only Michael B had taken the role instead of Fan4stic. But I'm sure Ray Fisher will do great.
Kaneda Shotaro
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I'm pretty sure unite the seven meant "unite the seven seas". Aquaman has a cameo and is mostly just there because he wants justice for what those weapons did to his seas and he blames Superman. His one big scene in the film is
walking into the UN where Superman is to say he wants him dead.
neogaffer1
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he's literally holding his own against all other justice league members in the comic page spread in the op
Works for both.
He was watered down so badly in the cartoon, they didn't know what to do with him
WooHooAlex
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They probably view Martian Manhunter as a risk. They want to play it safe with Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman right now. Holding out hope we'll see him at some point.
Poodlestrike
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His new 52 look is actually pretty damn cool. Both the humanoid and full martian.
But... Martian Manhunter has a great ongoing right now...
Him and Supes just took dives every episode
It was hilarious
NightShift
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Marvel did the Vision. There is no excuse.
Frozen Canadian
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Exactly. And Vision looks incredible. Fantastic marriage of CGI and Practical effects for his costume.
So piss off, people who say Martian Manhunter can't work visuallly irl
User 73706
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Easy solution: get Jon Stewart, but played by John Stewart in blackface
Poodlestrike
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In all fairness he does have a real weaksauce weakness problem.
I mean really, fire. Not like there's a billion and a half sources of fire running around, and that's not even including all of the burn-y supervillains.
Easiest way to show that a villain is powerfull enoght to deserve the entire league's attention : Beat the most powerfull hero
Schweinehund
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batman?
ThoseDeafMutes
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The martian one looks ok, I think the humanoid still doesn't look good. I'd prefer just alien / human, not alien / kindahuman / human, in terms of his different forms.
They toned him down a bit...
And then pretty much benched him in the Watchtower for most of JLU
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Why would they want a white GL after the GL movie disaster?
Unless they are going with Guy Gardner which I'd fully support.
BKatastrophe
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Always loved how people hate Supes for being broke, but then here comes J'onn and all of a sudden panties are dropping.
He was never given a weakness in the cartoon. Fire isn't his weakness in there. His weakness is his loneliness. And boy, is he lonely.
Not even true. Hal Jordan has been the flagship GL for decades. The only reason John is popular is because of the cartoon.
He was never given a weakness in the cartoon. Fire isn't his weakness in there. His weakness is his loneliness. And boy, is he lonely.
Other than obvious diversity reasons, there's a bit too much overlap of his powerset with Superman and Wonder Woman. Hell, even Aquaman is another super strong guy who punches shit. You could water him down and just focus on telepathy and phase shifting but that's doing him a disservice.
I long for the day when a 90s kid is running shit at DC.
If there were any justice in the universe these two would be our movie lanterns
I long for the day when a 90s kid is running shit at DC.
Reminds me of the time Lobo took Superman's place for that 1 episode and did less losing. They should've kept Lobo.
On-topic: I agree with everyone that Cyborg is better as a Teen Titan than the JL.
Granted but the cartoon was really popular and comic books generally sell like shit. I must of had the "Wait, isn't Green Lantern black?" conversation dozens of times when Ryan Reynolds was announced for that role.
Schweinehund
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Nah green lanterns could only do bubbles and pew pew lasers.
The show minimal knowledge of their powers and less of imagination on how to use them.
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