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[RedAssedApe]

You're wrong, GS is right.

welp

 

[hawk2025]

You're wrong, GS is right.

This only makes it harder to understand the Halo 5 PR.

Like, something's got to give on those numbers.

 

[RexNovis]

the guy who's company is under threat from losing tons of business from digital says digital sales were normal and no real figure?

hmmmm.

no reason to believe its 9:1 but no reason doubt this guy a little too. he has no idea what the digital sales are lol

"we believe"

Can the thread title be changed to note that they dont have concrete details? Just pulling it out if their ass.

Exactly what I was thinking. How would they even know?. And what do they have to say about EA's forecasts of digital increasing to 40% in 2016?

Technically not lying if he says 'we believe'.

If I sold physical goods I'd downplay digital sales too.

Or that it's 'Tales from My Ass' Gamestop edition?

We know vs We believe.

Big difference.

If I was MS I wouldn't tell GS the factual numbers/percentages.

MS - "Ummmm .... the numbers... yahhhhhh.... oh ya at best 20%, Gamespot. You have nothing to worry about."

*Looks at the chart on the computer monitor which shows higher sell percentage digitally. Starts to laugh uncontrollably*

GS - "What was that laughter I just heard?????"

*MS keeps laughing*

So they don't believe sales were different than anyone else's? Does anyone KNOW if that's the case?

Exactly. I don't know what you would ever expect them to say.

Of course they'd say that. Was their a bead of sweat rolling down his forehead at the same time?

7 of my 10 friends have Halo 5 digital....

In all seriousness, I think Halo 5 did better than 20% digital, obviously not 90% or 70%, but more than 20%.

I call it fair minded skepticism

I just don't think their data is complete and authoritative. That's all. I'm not saying they're being deceitful.

And so the denial train continues its long and arduous journey.

Silly me for actually believing that this would put the digital truthers to rest. This is embarrassing y'all. Y'all should be embarrassed.

 

[FunkyPajamas]

If I was MS I wouldn't tell GS the factual numbers/percentages.

MS - "Ummmm .... the numbers... yahhhhhh.... oh ya at best 20%, Gamespot. You have nothing to worry about."

*Looks at the chart on the computer monitor which shows higher sell percentage digitally. Starts to laugh uncontrollably*

GS - "What was that laughter I just heard?????"

*MS keeps laughing*

Somebody needs a hug.

 

[MisterR]

Really?,I've heard the digital cry for everything.

Not even close to the same level as it's been for Halo.

 

[MisterR]

Hmmm, other news outlets are giving a different account



Reads as if he's prediction was wrong and it's 'well lets find excuses'... Ok digital fits...

This is why PR is so effective. MS throws in hardware and God knows what else. They don't clarify if it's sold in or sold through and then uninformed people jump to crazy conclusions based on it.

 

[etta]

And so the denial train continues its long and arduous journey.

Silly me for actually believing that this would put the digital truthers to rest. This is embarrassing y'all. Y'all should be embarrassed.

Uhm, I don't actually believe the game did more than the average ~20%.
Just because I don't take their word doesn't mean I oppose it.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

And so the denial train continues its long and arduous journey.

Silly me for actually believing that this would put the digital truthers to rest. This is embarrassing y'all. Y'all should be embarrassed.

Why dont you create a separate thread about Halo 5's sales?

 

[igordennis]

Why dont you create a separate thread about Halo 5's sales?

He cant. He would have to use NPD numbers and they are leaks. Believe me he wants to (and so do i).

 

[Y2Kev]

Halo 5 Digital Sales Prayer Support Group

 

[gcubed]

Halo 5 Digital Sales Prayer Support Group

Is that confirmation that it was indeed 90%?

Your last support group...

 

[Angel_DvA]

Nothing surprising here, Halo isn't dead yet but it won't survive this gen.

 

[RexNovis]

Uhm, I don't actually believe the game did more than the average ~20%.
Just because I don't take their word doesn't mean I oppose it.

Fair enough. But arguing that GS is lying in an investors call is just as absurd imho.

Why dont you create a separate thread about Halo 5's sales?

If I was able to without relying on insider figures then I would. The sales decline for both Halo and AC: Syndicate are both unprecedented and would certainly be worthy of discussion but we can't do that without having a secondary non insider based source. Either way I don't see what creating a thread about Halo sales has anything to do with the topic of this thread or my post.

 

[Blanquito]

Man, even Matt is frequently coming out of the woodworks to confirm this and the XB1 sales #s vs Live membership stuff, and yet the struggle continues.

Good times

 

[SwolBro]

Why is digital the saving grace now? I never heard this rallying cry when other games were having disappointing sales.

Nothing surprising here, Halo isn't dead yet but it won't survive this gen.

So, Halo is dead because why again? It didn't meet sales figures from Halo 3 days? ooookay then.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but from the NPD thread Halo seemed to be doing a third of what 4 did.

Campaign is only a third as long as 4, so that makes sense.

 

[GameSeeker]

You're wrong, GS is right.

Thank you Matt.

Matt has confirmed the GS information, that puts the issue to bed.

 

[RexNovis]

So, Halo is dead because why again? It didn't meet sales figures from Halo 3 days? ooookay then.

I wouldnt say its dead but it sold less than a third of all previous mainline entries (excluding Halo 1 since we have no numbers) at launch. Thats an incredibly steep decline for a franchise. So its not exactly looking bright for the franchise either.

 

[igordennis]

So, Halo is dead because why again? It didn't meet sales figures from Halo 3 days? ooookay then.

He literally says Halo isn't dead but ok. Halo supporters sure love making it seem like the other side is saying halo is dead when in reality the only people that say that are Halo fans.

 

[Cranster]

Campaign is only a third as long as 4, so that makes sense.

Hyperbole, Halo 5 is much longer than Halo 4.

 

[SwolBro]

He literally says Halo isn't dead but ok. Halo supporters sure love making it seem like the other side is saying halo is dead when in reality the only people that say that are Halo fans.

Right, he said Halo won't survive this gen. Like, really? Out of all the franchises that have survived well into irrelevance but Halo isn't after this?

I'm not denying the decline in the popularity of the franchise but i'm sure the sales still warrant another entry in the series. It's absurd to think otherwise, this is unnecessary flaming really.

 

[etta]

Fair enough. But arguing that GS is lying in an investors call is just as absurd imho.

But how do they know? Do they just ask Microsoft and Microsoft tells them? Does Microsoft have any reason to tell them, especially when it couldn't affect anything Gamestop does? If the number is low then Gamestop is relieved, if the number is high then they can't do anything. It's not like they're going to stop selling the game or sell it at a lower price to compete.
Unless I am missing something and Microsoft is obligated to tell them.

 

[evilr]

Right, he said Halo won't survive this gen. Like, really? Out of all the franchises that have survived well into irrelevance but Halo isn't after this?

I'm not denying the decline in the popularity of the franchise but i'm sure the sales still warrant another entry in the series. It's absurd to think otherwise, this is unnecessary flaming really.

Well, Halo Wars has already been announced but your right, I expect a Halo 6 on Xbox One. What I cant see is Halo continuing after this generation (assuming there is another Xbox in the first place).

If Halo 5 did 'bad', then Halo Wars is the next Tomb Raider.

 

[TheExecutive]

I am out in the cold. Must have missed a couple of threads.

 

[Hockeymac18]

Well, Halo Wars has already been announced but your right, I expect a Halo 6 on Xbox One. What I cant see is Halo continuing after this generation (assuming there is another Xbox in the first place).

If Halo 5 did 'bad', then Halo Wars is the next Tomb Raider.

Halo will continue beyond 6. Whether it's on the next Xbox is another question, but we will get more Halo.

 

[TheExecutive]

Well, Halo Wars has already been announced but your right, I expect a Halo 6 on Xbox One. What I cant see is Halo continuing after this generation (assuming there is another Xbox in the first place).

If Halo 5 did 'bad', then Halo Wars is the next Tomb Raider.

Ok... Hold the phone. Halo will exist on any dedicated console Microsoft ever creates. It may have to reinvent itself but MS is not going to abandon the franchise. They may can a lot of people at 343 though.

 

[SwolBro]

Well, Halo Wars has already been announced but your right, I expect a Halo 6 on Xbox One. What I cant see is Halo continuing after this generation (assuming there is another Xbox in the first place).

If Halo 5 did 'bad', then Halo Wars is the next Tomb Raider.

The force is strong with this one.

 

[CosmicQueso]

I kinda love GameStop squirming in their seat ... panicking as digital will slowly eat all their lunch money.

If you think GameStop is doing this you are in line for severe disappointment.

 

[BokehKing]

If you think GameStop is doing this you are in line for severe disappointment.

Exactly, beaises, GameStop sells more than games, they sell hardware, consoles, controllers, accessories ect ect

You'll never be able to digitally download those things

 

[Serenity]

But how do they know? Do they just ask Microsoft and Microsoft tells them? Does Microsoft have any reason to tell them, especially when it couldn't affect anything Gamestop does? If the number is low then Gamestop is relieved, if the number is high then they can't do anything. It's not like they're going to stop selling the game or sell it at a lower price to compete.
Unless I am missing something and Microsoft is obligated to tell them.

You do realize GS just made sony and ms produce bundles with physical copies just for their stores right?

 

[StrongBlackVine]

But how do they know? Do they just ask Microsoft and Microsoft tells them? Does Microsoft have any reason to tell them, especially when it couldn't affect anything Gamestop does? If the number is low then Gamestop is relieved, if the number is high then they can't do anything. It's not like they're going to stop selling the game or sell it at a lower price to compete.
Unless I am missing something and Microsoft is obligated to tell them.

Microsoft is pretty close with Gamestop so it might behoove them to be honest.

 

[psynergylover]

This is gold.

INDEED!!!

 

[RexNovis]

But how do they know? Do they just ask Microsoft and Microsoft tells them? Does Microsoft have any reason to tell them, especially when it couldn't affect anything Gamestop does? If the number is low then Gamestop is relieved, if the number is high then they can't do anything. It's not like they're going to stop selling the game or sell it at a lower price to compete.
Unless I am missing something and Microsoft is obligated to tell them.

Well they flat out say that this is a result of regular communication with MS and other publishers so yes I would say they probably do get digital figures from the industry as it's relevant to their business.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

So, Halo is dead because why again? It didn't meet sales figures from Halo 3 days? ooookay then.

You quoted me as saying Halo is dead?

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

You quoted me as saying Halo is dead?

Hmm... Seems to me like we've got quite the straw man over here

 

[Javin98]

Halo 5 digital sales threads are always comedy gold. Why some just can't accept that it did only about a third of what Halo 3 did is beyond me.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Halo 5 digital sales threads are always comedy gold. Why some just can't accept that it did only about a third of what Halo 3 did is beyond me.

I think Halo will chart next month, probably.

But, what if it doesn't. What if it doesn't?

 

[the-pi-guy]

Guys, I have 2 million friends and I know for a fact that at least 1 million of them got the digital version.
I'm still getting updates, but uh, it's reliable.


But really 50% would be gigantic.

 

[Poimandres]

If I was MS I wouldn't tell GS the factual numbers/percentages.

MS - "Ummmm .... the numbers... yahhhhhh.... oh ya at best 20%, Gamespot. You have nothing to worry about."

*Looks at the chart on the computer monitor which shows higher sell percentage digitally. Starts to laugh uncontrollably*

GS - "What was that laughter I just heard?????"

*MS keeps laughing*

You heard laughter, I heard sobbing.

 

[Ricky_R]

I expected people to be going through acceptance by now.

 

[nib95]

Is that confirmation that it was indeed 90%?

Your last support group...

Come back in seven years lol.

 

[bryanee]

I expected people to be going through acceptance by now.

You expected too much.

 

[Iorv3th]

Guys, I have 2 million friends and I know for a fact that at least 1 million of them got the digital version.
I'm still getting updates, but uh, it's reliable.


But really 50% would be gigantic.

unfriend that other million and suddenly the numbers change to 100% digital ownership.

 

[SwolBro]

Halo 5 digital sales threads are always comedy gold. Why some just can't accept that it did only about a third of what Halo 3 did is beyond me.

It's comedy gold because people take the opportunity to start dumping all over the franchise, and on the console in general which then causes some poor souls to get way off track and start spouting illogical shit that turns into "comedy gold" for some people.

 

[Javin98]

I think Halo will chart next month, probably.

But, what if it doesn't. What if it doesn't?

If it doesn't, we abandon thread and make for the bomb shelters provided by Yoshida for PSX.

On a more serious note, I think Halo 5 may actually have a better chance of charting in November than Rise Of The Tomb Raider, though it will probably end up somewhere from #8-#10.

It's comedy gold because people take the opportunity to start dumping all over the franchise, and on the console in general which then causes some poor souls to get way off track and start spouting illogical shit that turns into "comedy gold" for some people.

Oh, so the 900% digital sales thing is actually a way to counteract these supposedly trolls who make fun of Halo and the XB1? Gotcha. Lay off the weed, dude.

I expected people to be going through acceptance by now.

LOL, expected way too much, man. We're barely past denial stage right now.

 

[RexNovis]

I think Halo will chart next month, probably.

But, what if it doesn't. What if it doesn't?

Because everyone would have bought digital obviously.

Spoiler

God help us

On a more serious note, I think Halo 5 may actually have a better chance of charting in November than Rise Of The Tomb Raider, though it will probably end up somewhere from #8-#10.

That's a given because there is simply no feasible way Tomb Raider is charting. Not with the competition it has and the piss poor advertising and release date it was dealt. I mean its sad but its also true. RoTR was royally screwed from so many different angles.

 

[SwolBro]

Oh, so the 900% digital sales thing is actually a way to counteract these supposedly trolls who make fun of Halo and the XB1? Gotcha. Lay off the weed, dude.
.

I never knew a comment that was obviously ridiculous warranted an entire thread so everyone can have a nice roast. Pardon me, i'm still learning.

 

[Tunavi]

But people buy their digital games from amazon

 

[Poimandres]

I never knew a comment that was obviously ridiculous warranted an entire thread so everyone can have a nice roast. Pardon me, i'm still learning.

It wasn't just a single comment though. In the initial UK thread there were multiple people arguing that digital sales were particularly high for Halo 5. There are a lot of people who seem to think this is the case. See: this thread.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This only makes it harder to understand the Halo 5 PR.

Like, something's got to give on those numbers.

Yeah, it's called shipped. Retail stock are still sales for MSFT. MSFT never said sold to customers. Hell, MSFT ironically no longer wants to provide numbers.