Jack Scofield
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It's like the entire Japanese video game industry suffers from chromic mismanagement.
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Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series
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Nah it's a lame excuse they came up with. The answer is that they don't want to work 3+ years on something that will cost millions to make and only see money at the end.
I guess this isn't bothering me as much as some because I had little or no interest in it as soon as it seemed to be a reimagining more than just a graphical overhaul. I never wanted a new game, just the game I love looking less ugly. Even fleshing the world out in 3d didn't really appeal to me because it's not the game I played.
Yes, but it was awhile back. I think on pages 10-20.
fluffydelusions
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Triggered
ArkhamFantasy
Member
A JRPG isnt going to sell 50 million units.
Absoludacrous
Member
You were never getting that. The other side of this coin was you waiting 5-6 years for one epic, fully realized remake, only to have it go through development hell, rebooted from scratch twice, and finally half-finished and rushed out the door so they can move on to something else.
Yes BUT the world of FFVII is BIGGER, has more towns and also Witcher games are made in Poland which mean they are relatively cheap to make...
Is SE doing another MMO?
Of course, what's to say they're even approaching it the same way? Maybe grinding won't even be an option. If it's as linear as we fear, you'll be fighting a completely limited quantity of enemies in each part.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Can't wait to get to the old disc swap spots and seeing "Please buy Final Fantasy VII REMAKE Part II to continue" instead.
Not exactly thrilled about this. Just gimme multiple discs if the data is so large.
Not exactly thrilled about this. Just gimme multiple discs if the data is so large.
disastermouse
Banned
I actually have no problem with this. The only thing that matters is:
Is each part worth it, size-wise?
Is the game fundamentally good?
Does it give me OG FFVII feels?
I mean, some of the people here shitting on this probably play Destiny....
Is each part worth it, size-wise?
Is the game fundamentally good?
Does it give me OG FFVII feels?
I mean, some of the people here shitting on this probably play Destiny....
mysteriousmage09
Member
Me right now.
Primethius
Banned
Nah, FF XIII-Versus never happened, don't ya know?
Are people saying "Square can't take the risk to make a full game" for real?
Final Fantasy 7 is the single one most popular JRPG period. This shit will make ten times over the price to make it. If square can't pony up the production cost, then they might as well just stop making AAAs right here right now.
FFXV doesn't have a fourth of the global appeal VII has, and yet they pay out the ass for a custom engine and all. They have no excuses.
Final Fantasy 7 is the single one most popular JRPG period. This shit will make ten times over the price to make it. If square can't pony up the production cost, then they might as well just stop making AAAs right here right now.
FFXV doesn't have a fourth of the global appeal VII has, and yet they pay out the ass for a custom engine and all. They have no excuses.
After the FFVII combat reveal my hype died down immensely and now with SE screwing there fans with episodes, I can honestly say the series is truly dead with Bean Counters, Nomura and others ruining the franchise to the ground in the name of change. Old Squade is dead and I honestly now wish Enix would leave SE alliance to keep there franchises alive before Squaresoft runs the DQ franchise to the ground after Horii passes.
It will be a launch game.
I still dont understand. Didn't thier stock go up from the announcement of the game? At PSX they directly mentioned/showed off the fan reactions to the announcement.
How did they expect fans too react to the news that they wont get the complete game when it comes out? What bullshit excuse is " there's too much data". Fucking Xenoblade Chronicles X fits on a Wii U disk (with some data packs). There's no excuse, it's just greed. If your graphics are too good you compromise, or fucking release the game on multiple disks again. I cant believe they're making this terrible of a decision without even the balls to come out and say it to the fans at PSX. I know this is about sales and all but I'm sure Square will probably take a hit in their stock soon.
How did they expect fans too react to the news that they wont get the complete game when it comes out? What bullshit excuse is " there's too much data". Fucking Xenoblade Chronicles X fits on a Wii U disk (with some data packs). There's no excuse, it's just greed. If your graphics are too good you compromise, or fucking release the game on multiple disks again. I cant believe they're making this terrible of a decision without even the balls to come out and say it to the fans at PSX. I know this is about sales and all but I'm sure Square will probably take a hit in their stock soon.
Lionel Richie
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You're thinking about this rationally, it's SE, don't be rational. Plus, that's the only way they could troll DQXI, that game is flat out going to be awesome.
the_sun_king
Member
Hell, why not take these characters everyone fell in love with and finally realize that style in 3D.
Of course now the game has to be episodic now. We wouldn't of got it till 2020 probably.
Advent Children ruined this franchise in my opinion with what some people expect with the visuals.
This is why of all the reimagined looks Cloud has gotten over the years since the original game, I actually like his recently revealed design for Smash Bros. the best. It's the most cartoony and stylistically different from every other iteration's interpretation of Advent Children's look. FFVII was a very anime game - possibly the most anime of all the mainline FF entries - and had very anime character designs to go along with it, so why not embrace that? /unpopularopinion
probably at the end of ps5 lifecycle we'll get the complete ff7R.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I agree with this fully.
Have a Nice Day
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Not in this day and age, nope.
CamHostage
Member
But there is no single game to chop up. Final Fantasy VII Remake does not exist.
If it were Final Fantasy VII that they were remastering and they changed the release strategy and gameplay flow of it, then that could be frustrating, but Remake is not FFVII. As is clearly demonstrated by the gameplay demo, it is a wholly different game inspired by the characters and story of the original. And so they are free to make it up as they see fit.
Dislike the approach if you've had bad experiences with episodic games in the past, but it seems like hating on it just on principle of it not being like the game before that it is not at all the same thing of... it feels like when people condemned the Hannibal TV show before it came out because nobody wanted a differently-done second version of this beloved property, and it took the team behind it making something awesome in order to change minds (if/when those people ever even game it a chance.)
Final Fantasy VII Remake is not and never will be Final Fantasy VII. It will be something different.
Xamtheking
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The limiting factor here, imho, is the remaining lifespan of the current gen
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Just reading this makes me feel sick.
anothertech
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I wonder, are there games out there that don't fit on a single disc yet this Gen? I assume any game like that just downloads the rest of the content with a day 1 patch. This game in its entirety would have to be a massive download on day one I would imagine.
Primethius
Banned
Seriously. It seems people haven't noticed the current state of the gaming market.
Aeternus Malum
Member
Delete this
I don't really have high hopes for FFXV, but those are two really big assumptions right there.
I'm not comparing with the standard now. I was just thinking of the last AAA jrpg which had the scale of old jrpgs and high production values for their time. I think Blue Dragon and Ninokuni are basically it doesnn the last generation.
That's not an unpopular opinion, as in it's not disliked. Just rarely heralded.
They've been nothing but decent and honorable with their fans lately. I fully expect it to make it over here.
You honestly think FF15 has a better global appeal than 7? Then why are they actually making that a full game and not the other?
ZombiePlatypus
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I thought the whole thing with Wada leaving, SE moving onto PS4 which is supposed to be much more streamlined development wise than PS3, not to mention them using things like Unreal Engine was supposed to give us proper, large, epic RPGs from them again.
I'm gonna wait and see how they straddle this decision, but yeah, if this feels in any way like some flimsy attempt at milking fans via their most sacred title, it's game over.
I know it can go both ways, but I feel like the potential for hastily rushing things without proper "labor of love" care is much greater in this episodic format.
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I know right, thinking about that game warms my heart.
Primethius
Banned
I heavily doubt that FF15 comes remotely close to the scope and scale of a proper FF7 remake.
A good 30+ ish of content, with like a bunch of side stuff and mini games (a la ground zeroes for instance) would be nice. The main thing I'd really hope would be if they'd come up with a system that episodes interact with each other. The gated aspect of episodes is really what's putting me off as yeah, it does kill the rythm. But considering the main game is completable in 50/60 hours on an average play, 20-25 ish hours doesn't sound too bad, if you have the side content to go with it. In the end, with all episodes we might end up with something longer than the original (if all goes well, that is)
It almost died during the entire gen7, partly due to development costs. Right now some of it is trying it's darndest to bring some of it back but they have a lot of shit to wade through and a lot of sacrifice to do to stay afloat.
This. People bring up Ni No Kuni a lot. They also conveniently forgot that Ni No Kuni didn't sell super well comparatively to the content it offered. In japan, it sold poorly. It sold better in the west on the long time, but on a AAA scale it's not a lot. Especially for a game that got a shitload of marketing, and Ghibli behind it.
FF7R and FF XV will probably sell really well but nowhere near the astronomical profit I think people are putting on it
funkystudent
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Even before this move I always expected this to release so close to the next gen that it would be ported over as a launch game.
I guess the episodic run will do its thing and we will get a complete edition on the next gen.