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Final Fantasy [Mafia] |OT| Living in a Materia World, and I am a Materia Girl

Two things:

1.) If Hyperactivity gets roleblocked again next night phase, then his investigative abilities will have to be held in suspicion.

2.) If Sorian is dead, then we can't rule out he was switched with someone else. Of course, there is the chance that he was very dangerous to scum day 1. Finally, there is also the chance that they chose him to make us think he had good reads to mislead us.
 
And blarg is being more unhelpful then usual to top it all off.

VOTE: Blargonaut

Would you please sorta try and discuss things. You can be reasonable, I now that from experience, but you're just being annoying right now

OH, OH OH! THAT'S CUTE, HOTSHOT

BUT, BUT PICK A NUMBER BETWEEN 1 AND 18, WOULD YOU UH WOULD YOU

KINDLY
 
Well, looks like there is a lot to discuss today! I'm sad to have lost Sorian, he had a lot of thoughtful comments yesterday.

As for hyperactivity's claim, I think I tentatively believe him. It is pretty convenient that he was roleblocked-- but, on the other hand, mafia would know that a roleblock would seem convenient. And it would not be difficult for them to come up with a fake investigation. So, on balance, I think hyperactivity is credible right now, not to say I won't change my mind.

Darryl did go after Sorian a lot lately, and Sorian is now dead, but I think Darryl is probably not mafia. He's had several perceptive posts today. On looking it up I see that his power is a town one, even though I was suspicious of it yesterday.

As for nin, I do think it's weird that he seemingly forgot that hyper claimed to be a cop. His first few comments after being confronted seemed to confirm that he forgot the whole situation, eg this one:

Well there is, i forgot about it :)

However, he then said that he only forgot the specific post number, a statement seemingly
inconsistent with his earlier behavior. I find this weird, but I'd like to see if there's an explanation before doing more.
 

nin1000

Banned
Fine.
I'm Squall Leonhart, The Lionhearted Commander.
And this is my theme song.
Lionhearted by Porter Robinson

Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar, da es Musik enthalten könnte, über deren Verwendung wir uns mit der GEMA bisher nicht einigen konnten.

this video is unavailable in your country !

How is the rest of the day going to pan out ? Are we going to vote those players out that are most annoying or presure them to claim ?
 

nin1000

Banned
However, he then said that he only forgot the specific post number, a statement seemingly
inconsistent with his earlier behavior. I find this weird, but I'd like to see if there's an explanation before doing more.


Day started, i did not recall that he claimed, others mentioned that he did and it came back to my mind. Most of the times the solution to a problem is the most simple one.
 
Shit, I was in a meeting and forgot about the day start. However, I figured Sorian had an override role; he hinted at it when he told UJ he had very little time to convince him.

I'm going to catch up and post more thoughts, but I just wanted to post and confirm I'm here.
 

Kevyt

Member
Oh no Sorian-Senpai is gone. 😥

I always knew I was right in trusting him. Mafia knew he was dangerous because of his reads.

I'm gonna look closely at who he voted for and the people that had voted for him.

The truth is out there.
 
Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar, da es Musik enthalten könnte, über deren Verwendung wir uns mit der GEMA bisher nicht einigen konnten.

this video is unavailable in your country !

How is the rest of the day going to pan out ? Are we going to vote those players out that are most annoying or presure them to claim ?

Unless we have any damning evidence, I really would prefer no one else claim
 
And why were you comfortable leaving this on the table when you were set to be lynched?

PR name claims are likely not a big deal as this game probably borders on role madness, and I bet scum has fake claims as prominent as Squall.
After my experience with Werewolf and Wereboot D1, where I was a prime lynch target for a good chunk of the day, and ended up not getting lynched both times, I put some faith in my ability to not get lynched by doing what I normally do, I guess.
 
Sorry, I'm having a bit of a rush.

Here's the thing. If you were really blocked, you would have gotten a system message. It's standard mafia stuff. As such, I don't believe you.

VOTE: Hyperactivity

What are you talking about? I was told my investigation failed. It was standard stuff, 0 fluff or flavor.

We have no clue if this has to deal with a roleblock, or just meant to do so (aka something to do with xam). There's no "Standard procedure".

Harry Potter was pretty unique in giving the players flavor on the actions that happened to them. Standard basic procedure, iirc, is just to tell someone that their action failed
 
What are you talking about? I was told my investigation failed. It was standard stuff, 0 fluff or flavor.

We have no clue if this has to deal with a roleblock, or just meant to do so (aka something to do with xam). There's no "Standard procedure".

Harry Potter was pretty unique in giving the players flavor on the actions that happened to them. Standard basic procedure, iirc, is just to tell someone that their action failed

It differs per game, there is no "standard procedure" that I know of
 
What are you talking about? I was told my investigation failed. It was standard stuff, 0 fluff or flavor.

We have no clue if this has to deal with a roleblock, or just meant to do so (aka something to do with xam). There's no "Standard procedure".

Harry Potter was pretty unique in giving the players flavor on the actions that happened to them. Standard basic procedure, iirc, is just to tell someone that their action failed

It differs per game, there is no "standard procedure" that I know of

You said you knew you were roleblocked because you didn't get any results. Now you're saying you got a message saying it failed. You are saying two different things.
 

nin1000

Banned
Here's the thing. If you were really blocked, you would have gotten a system message. It's standard mafia stuff. As such, I don't believe you.

VOTE: Hyperactivity

Heres the thing, every game makers does that differently. Some inform if they have been blocked, some give no info at all, thus implying that something did happen ( a rolebock )
 
What???

I got a pm saying that my investigation failed. AKA, no results.

You're seriously nitpicking here

Im not nitpicking. Its a pretty obvious contradiction. Why didn't you make that clear?

Heres the thing, every game makers does that differently. Some inform if they have been blocked, some give no info at all, thus implying that something did happen ( a rolebock )

Not so. I know that here in particular, we make sure mods notify people of roleblocks. I've had this concern before.
 
If you were really blocked, you would gave started off by saying "I got a message saying my action failed". Because if you say that you did not receive any results, a million things could have happened that made you not get a result.

Unless, of course, you're trying to push a narrative and keep yourself alive for another turn.
 
If you were really blocked, you would gave started off by saying "I got a message saying my action failed". Because if you say that you did not receive any results, a million things could have happened that made you not get a result.

Unless, of course, you're trying to push a narrative and keep yourself alive for another turn.

Holy shit Launch, I really wouldn't. I would say that I assumed I was blocked. Like I FUCKING DID.

And you're willing to lynch me over semantics and wordplay

I'm not pushing any damn narrative. I honestly can't believe what you trying to do right now
 
Holy shit Launch, I really wouldn't. I would say that I assumed I was blocked. Like I FUCKING DID.

And you're willing to lynch me over semantics and wordplay

I'm not pushing any damn narrative. I honestly can't believe what you trying to do right now

Why would you assume anything? You got a message telling you as much.
 
Why would you assume anything? You got a message telling you as much.

No, I got a message telling me my action failed. As I have already acknowledged, that could have to do with other crazy-ass roles, like some weirdness on Xam's part, but the easiest fucking answer is that I was role-blocked. So I open up saying that I was probably role-blocked by scum.

It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots from one place to the other
 

Terrabyte20xx

Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Launch is nitpicking, no doubt, but I also feel Hyper is over exaggerating his response, no one else is jumping on to launch's reasoning as a primary motive for lynching him.
 
No, I got a message telling me my action failed. As I have already acknowledged, that could have to do with other crazy-ass roles, like some weirdness on Xam's part, but the easiest fucking answer is that I was role-blocked. So I open up saying that I was probably role-blocked by scum.

It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots from one place to the other

Yeah, but, you didn't open up with any other possibilities or tried to explain to us what happened. You opened up by...

Sigh

Well, scum have essentially made a fool of me. I was roleblocked last night, and I can see what will happen in the future now. My only utility at this point is to take up that roleblock, and you guys will probably take care of the rest.

I'm assuming scum are essentially just waiting for the scummy cop to get lynched. Each night from here on out that I claim roleblocked, I'm going to look more and more suspicious. The rest of you will likely buy it night 1, but night 2? 3? 4? I hope that you guys will trust me on this one, and I'll do my best to be of use to town, but unfortunately it seems that use will not come in the form of my role, asides from the roleblock being taken up by me.

The other possibility, somewhat unlikely tbh, was a town switcher and roleblocker getting really unlucky, and I hope this is the case, but sadly I see the first option as more likely

I targeted Xamtheking last night btw

creating a narrative. No details on why any of what you say is true; just that it is.
 

nin1000

Banned
Two things:

1.) If Hyperactivity gets roleblocked again next night phase, then his investigative abilities will have to be held in suspicion.

2.) If Sorian is dead, then we can't rule out he was switched with someone else. Of course, there is the chance that he was very dangerous to scum day 1. Finally, there is also the chance that they chose him to make us think he had good reads to mislead us.

Come on TAP, is that all you are going to say ? At least try pretend that you care.
 
Yeah, but, you didn't open up with any other possibilities or tried to explain to us what happened. You opened up by...



creating a narrative. No details on why any of what you say is true; just that it is.

Cause that's what I assumed happened. It's the simplest answer, and the one I'll go with for now
 
Cause that's what I assumed happened. It's the simplest answer, and the one I'll go with for now

Stick with it all you want.

Your explanation creates another problem. If you're going to be roleblocked next night phase as well, what's the point in keeping you around? We'll still have this doubt looming over our heads about whether you're lying or not. Lynching you today is still the best option, because you were likely blocked on purpose. You won't even be able to carry out your night action if you're around.
 

Darryl

Banned
Stick with it all you want.

Your explanation creates another problem. If you're going to be roleblocked next night phase as well, what's the point in keeping you around? We'll still have this doubt looming over our heads about whether you're lying or not. Lynching you today is still the best option, because you were likely blocked on purpose. You won't even be able to carry out your night action if you're around.

This is your second time pushing for a policy lynch
 
Stick with it all you want.

Your explanation creates another problem. If you're going to be roleblocked next night phase as well, what's the point in keeping you around? We'll still have this doubt looming over our heads about whether you're lying or not. Lynching you today is still the best option, because you were likely blocked on purpose. You won't even be able to carry out your night action if you're around.

Because

A. You're doing what scum wants, doing their job for them
B. A possible town switcher (perhaps x-shot or something) could come to my rescue
C. I use up the scum-team's role block if indeed that's what is going on
D. If this has to do with some passive ability of Xam's, then I might still get results on others
E. A town watcher could come to my rescue
etc. etc.
 

Darryl

Banned
The doctor being Golbez brings some credibility to Hyperactivity's weird nameclaim. I think scum would be more likely to pick a more trustworthy name. Like Squall Leonhart.
 
Let's ask this, we Lynch Hyper and he flips cop, where do we go from there, what do we learn?

Not much.

Because

A. You're doing what scum wants, doing their job for them
B. A possible town switcher (perhaps x-shot or something) could come to my rescue
C. I use up the scum-team's role block if indeed that's what is going on
D. If this has to do with some passive ability of Xam's, then I might still get results on others
E. A town watcher could come to my rescue
etc. etc.

Ok, I believe you. Sorry I pushed your buttons. I was trying to see how you reacted to pressing, and if you were thinking like a townie, and that list more or less proves that.

UNVOTE
 
Your original reasoning isn't, but your backup argument is policy lynch reasoning. We should get rid of him just in case. It removes the weight of your decisions from you.

I don't want to lynch him if he's a cop, though, especially if scum will keep wasting their time blocking him. Although, without a doctor, I'm not sure if there's much benefit to a scum roleblock being occupied during the night phase.
 
Two things:

1.) If Hyperactivity gets roleblocked again next night phase, then his investigative abilities will have to be held in suspicion.

2.) If Sorian is dead, then we can't rule out he was switched with someone else. Of course, there is the chance that he was very dangerous to scum day 1. Finally, there is also the chance that they chose him to make us think he had good reads to mislead us.

I'm going to have to say, this is some of the most pedestrian shit I've seen on gafia so far.

VOTE: TheAwesomePossum

Get your ass out of that mafia chat and in here.
 
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