I think they will ride this out with no mention of the incident again.
It seems like the fiasco had died down in various parts of the Internet.
That's not how cached pages work. If you didn't access the pages a few hours prior to the issue (the two pages of identifiable personal info were already cached and would be revealed when the issue begins) or during the issue, there is no way for your personal data to have been at risk, let alone shown to another user. Assuming 2 hours for both or even more, I doubt that reaches a million people, however there is no info to go on regardless
Yeah I agree, if you stating the potential there isn't anything wrong, but it isn't a factual statement yet
Where?
Steam community
They haven't been locked, they've been deleted.So where are the locked threads? Link them.
So where are the locked threads? Link them.
I think they will ride this out with no mention of the incident again.
It seems like the fiasco had died down in various parts of the Internet.
Which is why it's so important that we keep bringing this to attention.
We can't be just left by ourselves on figuring out what happened and how many were affected, and Valve can't keep silencing anyone who tries to inform the potentially affected but also not say anything on the matter themselves.
Where's the proof it isn't?
It's Christmas day the peak for redeeming Steam vouchers so an estimate of 1 million is not unreasonable. More to the point if it was a single users details the response would be pathetic and unacceptable. This is not Steam 1.0 this is Steam the company worth 100s of millions that can't be arsed with customer service.
They are not locked, they are totally gone, deleted.
i cropped it for size purposes its a large image, but i has a URL that is no longer existing for your proof of pudding. i found one of the screens i took of the forum mods down playing and playing damage control of the significance of the issue. He gave a knee jerk reaction when i said how important an email was these days by posting that, like seriously, no dont just give it to everyone and anyone one LIKE YOU DID VALVE. Especially when its linked to to everything you use, the things you hold dearest, and a lot of people these days use passwords across the same sites even though thats stupid of them and that is their fault.
Social engineering, driveby malware and phising is a serious problem
Okay, pardon me for not believing but there should be a massive reaction to this if it is the case.
- can only you see these now deleted threads?
- show the content of what you actually posted?
- can you do the same with the other 4 threads you made that you say were sequentially deleted?
If you can post them fully you can probably get something done and make a big deal out of this. If the content of your posts (which you haven't shown) are actually ridiculous or offensive or something, perhaps I would understand the moderators position, but I can't do that without the full context and the of 4 threads that are also deleted.
For what it is worth, that is a moderator, not Valve, and the moderators are not associated with Valve which is why the earliest info in this thread was disregarded when coming from their mods.
i cant see them i took the screen shot the day i made the post because the MOD was being an absolute idiot, i really only have a screen shot of that one thread because that was the thread he was in that and it grinded my gears, im sure if you search around in the community you can find confused and angry thread titles of "why were my threads deleted." I really wish i took more screenshots had i known it was going to turn into this (a total pruning of legit threads). I guess you can only take what i say at face value but its some serious BS.
I gota go to bed, ill post more of that thread when i wake up though lol.
Well here is where I am sceptical, I have no idea of the content of your posts or if 4 other threads of yours ever existed.
More on point, there is plenty of discussion of the issues in the Steam forums, with many threads being merged into the stickied thread of some subforums or are just everywhere else - http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/458604254431478327/#c458604254442048802
This isn't abnormal behaviour for the Steam forums, such as during the modding fiasco, but whether your posts were ligitametely taken down or for good reason or not, I'll never know by the looks of it
My threads had 80-90 percent nothing to do with that one
My threads had 80-90 percent nothing to do with that one, are you like valve PR lol.
Where's the proof it isn't?
Valve has community moderators for some of their boards. It was likely one of them.Alright that is fucked up, not only haven't they told customers after 48+ hours their information might have been compromised, they are also deleting any posts that do that for them? Bullshit.
That's how the criminal burden of proof works but data protection is the much lower civil standard and in the case of Data protection the burden is placed on the data holder to prove they have taken adequate measures. As there has been a clear breach they have to explainThat's not how the burden of proof works. I can't drag you into court and make you prove you didn't steal my sandwich from the break room ..
That's how the criminal burden of proof works but data protection is the much lower civil standard and in the case of Data protection the burden is placed on the data holder to prove they have taken adequate measures. As there has been a clear breach they have to explain
What was compromised
How many were compromised
What steps have been taken to remedy the leak
Notify every compromised user
Offer services to protect users in the case of identity theft (think the credit monitoring Sony offered)
I received a preliminary response from Steam that consisted of general information about the issue, comparable in detail and structure to the information provided to GameSpot / Kotaku. I replied informing them I did not feel this was an adequate response and restating my specific questions.
I received a preliminary response from Steam that consisted of general information about the issue, comparable in detail and structure to the information provided to GameSpot / Kotaku. I replied informing them I did not feel this was an adequate response and restating my specific questions.
Just to be clear, there is no way of knowing if my info was on of the one's accessed?
Fortunately, I don't have my payment information saved on anything after the Sony hack. Also think my profile is only accessible to friends.
It's crazy how they feel just sweeping it under the rug is ok. More websites should be commenting on the matter of how they're handling. Not like they need to worry about being blacklisted by valve.
Unfortunately, because of the nature of the issue, this is irrelevant. The data didn't come from their main servers, which check ones permissions first, but from a caching server which has no concept of authentication.
If you viewed your profile after the wrong configuration went live, your data was loaded by the caching server. Anyone who then visited their profile page (not yours!) might have been served your profile instead.
I received a preliminary response from Steam that consisted of general information about the issue, comparable in detail and structure to the information provided to GameSpot / Kotaku. I replied informing them I did not feel this was an adequate response and restating my specific questions.
Why videogame journalists don't talk AT ALL about this issue?
Is Valve so "protected"?
It's a very crappy thing this fact is going under radio silence.
Why videogame journalists don't talk AT ALL about this issue?
Is Valve so "protected"?
It's a very crappy thing this fact is going under radio silence.
If they continue to give you unsatisfactory answers to your queries, or outright ignore you (not saying this will actually happen), have you thought about whether or not you will continue to buy games through steam?
Dozens of major gaming news sites like Kotaku, Polygon, IGN, etc. reported the security issue as it was happening. If you're trying to say that more journalists should be calling out Valve's minimal response to the issue, I suspect that's something we'll see more of in the coming days now that christmas vacation is over.
Wait a minute. You're into IT security for large companies and say stuff like phone number or last 4 digits of credit card is worthless?
The number one thing I'm thinking reflecting on this is to start using fake addresses/names wherever I register online. Providing accurate information doesn't seem to benefit me in any way and providing inaccurate information keeps me safe in the event of a breach.
Patrick Klepek should get on this!
What did you tell them?Valve's lack of communication has made me:
-Contact the EU Data Commission about the security issue
Why? Is this related in any way to the account security?-Delete everything from my wishlist
I received a preliminary response from Steam that consisted of general information about the issue, comparable in detail and structure to the information provided to GameSpot / Kotaku. I replied informing them I did not feel this was an adequate response and restating my specific questions.
Why? Is this related in any way to the account security?
Why videogame journalists don't talk AT ALL about this issue?
Is Valve so "protected"?
It's a very crappy thing this fact is going under radio silence.
Kotaku now has another article up where the issue and the lack of communication by Valve is mentioned in the second half.
Steam Problems Linger After Christmas Fiasco
Man, what a mess. Didn't know about verification problems.Kotaku now has another article up where the issue and the lack of communication by Valve is mentioned in the second half.
Steam Problems Linger After Christmas Fiasco
The silence is why I'm done buying games through Steam. I could forgive the original issue, but the silence makes Valve a shit company as far as I'm concerned.I cannot believe Valve has been on radio silence about the issue--it's inexcusable.
The silence is why I'm done buying games through Steam. I could forgive the original issue, but the silence makes Valve a shit company as far as I'm concerned.