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George Lucas quips he sold 'Star Wars' to "white slavers," criticizes tone of TFA
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He's clearly starting to feel that regret. Wondering what could have been if he had stuck it out and made the sequels himself.
Can't say I blame him. Star Wars is, as he said, his baby pretty much. He's spent a good chunk of his life with it and now he has to let it go. Must be hard.
Can't say I blame him. Star Wars is, as he said, his baby pretty much. He's spent a good chunk of his life with it and now he has to let it go. Must be hard.
internetwolf
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more like george BOO-HOOcas
Ghost_Messiah
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I find it hard to have sympathy for the guy because had the power to keep Star Wars to himself. Full control over episodes 7, 8 and 9 had he wanted to create them in the way he intended. He took a massive $4 billion cheque and ran with the money and now he's lamenting his loss of creative control to which he held the power to stop?
MisterHero
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He should've asked for like $10 Billion. He's a billionaire but barely so!!
Lucas is awesome
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
They had to do that to get fans back after George shat and pissed all over them. It's a safe first movie. If TFA was experimental or unfamiliar it would have been a much riskier move.
We can probably expect more original SW movies coming down the pike, but for the first one? You can bet your ass they'd play it safe.
Discotheque
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as basura as the phantom menace ended up i gotta say the podracing sequence/homage to ben hur was immensely more exciting than ANY of the action sequences in force awakens.
there's a lot of shit in those prequel movies but there's also inklings of more interesting ideas in there too. given to different directors like he should have and reworked scripts they would have been great.
but then again that's a lot like saying if the movie wasn't bad then it would be good, which is just redundant lol. i think abrams was the right choice for the money but also kind of boring and unsurprising with the outcome. the only thing I'm really happy with from him is the casting of all the new characters and the look he gave it. it's a smarter decision than any of the star wars saga (aside from grabbing harrison ford from nowhere for a new hope). these people are either already showing solid performances and getting more popular (isaac, gleeson, driver) or were on their way sooner or later, like boyega or possibly ridley.
there's a lot of shit in those prequel movies but there's also inklings of more interesting ideas in there too. given to different directors like he should have and reworked scripts they would have been great.
but then again that's a lot like saying if the movie wasn't bad then it would be good, which is just redundant lol. i think abrams was the right choice for the money but also kind of boring and unsurprising with the outcome. the only thing I'm really happy with from him is the casting of all the new characters and the look he gave it. it's a smarter decision than any of the star wars saga (aside from grabbing harrison ford from nowhere for a new hope). these people are either already showing solid performances and getting more popular (isaac, gleeson, driver) or were on their way sooner or later, like boyega or possibly ridley.
Honestly he doesn't seem that salty to me, he probably knew he wouldn't get away with what he wanted to make so he decided to sell them, and Disney did what knew would sell the most and that is retread on nostalgia (Not complaining, I loved the film and I had no nostalgia for the originals, the movie worked fine).
He sound more like a grumpy dad that had to give his daughter in marriage, is well aware that she is gone but wish she had done something else with her life, regardless of how well she is actually doing.
He sound more like a grumpy dad that had to give his daughter in marriage, is well aware that she is gone but wish she had done something else with her life, regardless of how well she is actually doing.
He didn't run with the money. He's basically donating it
Wait, have people really deluded themselves into thinking that the movie HAD to play it safe?
It's fucking Star Wars, it would have been successful one way or another (to the degree that it is atm is another discussion). This line of thinking that it had to "play it safe" in order to properly succeed is outrageous lol
It's fucking Star Wars, it would have been successful one way or another (to the degree that it is atm is another discussion). This line of thinking that it had to "play it safe" in order to properly succeed is outrageous lol
DoctorFling
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Man, poor George is so bad at articulating his points. Listening to some of the old Star Wars commentary tracks he used to be great at hitting the nail on the head, but whenever he talks now it comes across as borderline madness. I do agree with some of his criticisms though.
LegendofJoe
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Is he implying that Disney is anti-white? I don't understand where he was starting to go with that comment.
That said I agree with him that I was slightly disappointed that TFA retreaded ANH so much. The film was more of a reboot than a sequel, but it did a well enough job at both to have me excitedo about where they'll go next now that the franchise is on rock solid footing again.
That said I agree with him that I was slightly disappointed that TFA retreaded ANH so much. The film was more of a reboot than a sequel, but it did a well enough job at both to have me excitedo about where they'll go next now that the franchise is on rock solid footing again.
HerbertFish
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I liked that but he has a bit of a point. Definitely felt similar to episode 4. The others certainly had their own feel, for better or (often) worse.
Completely different? Different characters? He put R2 in the PT. He made Anakin 3POs creator. Obi Wan was the costar in all 3 prequel films. He drew parallels between Luke and anakin with the visions/premonitions of death and their reactions.
Lucas is an idiot. After taxes, trade routes, and democracy, a nice retro callback to the original movie is just what the franchise needed.
Lucas is an idiot. After taxes, trade routes, and democracy, a nice retro callback to the original movie is just what the franchise needed.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Agreed. While I think the Prequels get more shit than they deserve, they do have some pretty obvious problems, but at least they charted their own course. There was lots of new things to see in them, and Lucas did create new planets, characters, ships, and settings.
It is understandable that he is having a hard time seeing someone else take over his baby, but he sold it off for a reason. Time to move on and do something new.
Oh yeah that thing i was reading it and couldn't believe it was real and it was.
The only cynical thing about TFA is some of its viewers.
Yeah I'd be interested in seeing it too. I've said this before but for the flak the prequels get at least they weren't remakes!
billy beane
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I think he was comparing Disney to slave owners in that they "use" his series for strictly profit. Or something along those lines anyway.
Exactly, if this thread is any indication, SW fanboys are way more saltier about Lucas.
Here's some experts from the Charlie Rose interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIrQUXm_hY
Bluekaveli
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He looks like he's about to get beat up lol . The same face Tupac had in Vegas.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The thing is, they could have still "played it safe" by sticking to the core of Star Wars character and world building.
They didn't need to literally have ANH-style planets or ANH-style plot points in order to nail the Star Wars feel, and I'm a little disappointed that they went that direction.
Big Baybee
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Feels like Star Wars to me
HerbertFish
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No he didn't mean that. He was making an awkward joke about selling his kids into slavery. White slavers would be anti-black if anything, but really the race has nothing to do with it. Just an awkward joke.
TheBaldEmperor
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The Salt Awakens
Jeez, guy.
Jeez, guy.
He isn't wrong about TFA. It isn't a terrible movie and I enjoyed it but it is nothing more than a recast and tweaked A New Hope with some elements of Empire and Jedi thrown in for extra flavor.
I would be interested in seeing his outlines for 7 8 and 9. People saying he is terrible are full of shit. He is fantastic on the creative side. Its the bringing the creative to life where he runs into trouble especially if there isn't people to reign him in.
I would be interested in seeing his outlines for 7 8 and 9. People saying he is terrible are full of shit. He is fantastic on the creative side. Its the bringing the creative to life where he runs into trouble especially if there isn't people to reign him in.
psychotron
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Lucas hating it automatically means I'll love it.
Oh lawd.
If you had maybe said the final duel with Maul, I still wouldn't agree but I could see it. The podracing sequence was just pace-killing nonsense.
SamuelSupreme
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Fixed That For YOu
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I can understand loving TFA... but not even being able to see how Disney played it desperately safe...?
We all see it. We've all acknowledged it. TFA is an ANH clone, for better or for worse.
the bubble existed before he even made them.
Same here. I still don't like the prequels, but I respect the fuck out of what he tried to do.
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