gioGAF
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Lol, go ahead, carry on with your "edgy" point of view and cling to the shitty prequels. Plenty of good movies came out between 1999 and 2005, they just don't include anything by George Lucas.
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George Lucas quips he sold 'Star Wars' to "white slavers," criticizes tone of TFA
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PdotMichael
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ZombieSupaStar
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Umm I remember people hating on Jar Jar, and Anakin yipping! on day 1. I actually remember eyerolling Jar Jar stepping into ICKY ICKY GOO! in the theater.
Only Revenge of the Sith was anywhere close to being adored on release, in my experience.
DryEyeRelief
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why is star wars so popular?
breadtruck
Member
After the prequels, I'm glad its out of his hands.
Its ok for him to sit back, STFU, and let the money roll in.
Its ok for him to sit back, STFU, and let the money roll in.
CassidyIzABeast
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I don't believe it. Sounds like the he ruined my childhood people looking for a way to completely discredit Lucas.
Already Torn
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Gotta agree. It seems like it was this grand accident that it turned out as well as it did, and things went south when Lucas assumed everything was because of his vision as a filmmaker. A delusion he still has, apparently.
"This will begin to make things right" being the first spoken sentence was a great idea. Whoever came up with that should get paid just a little more.
MoonsaultSlayer
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50s
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70s
Plus factor in the angular, mass produced rust buckets the empire would spit out akin to what was on the road back then.
A new one could have had tech more similar to today.
Having a different point of view is now edgy. C'mon now.
And I love all the Star Wars movies, thank you very much.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
I see a lot of people echoing "prequels were at least trying new things despite failing"
We're really going with THAT as a positive for prequel? Doing something new and failings doesn't sound like a good thing
We're really going with THAT as a positive for prequel? Doing something new and failings doesn't sound like a good thing
triplestation
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This, and he didn't have it for a long time
Star wars ended in the 70s
He was half assing the prequels
Imagine if the prequels were made in the 70s
Can we stop with the "at least he tried something different with the prequels" excuse?
Yes he tried something different. That would be commendable if they didn't turn out to be complete horseshit in nearly every regard. Cinematography, dialogue, script, everything outsides a few OK uses of the CGI in the later prequels were all ass and contributed next to nothing when it comes to cinema or Star Wars in general.
He's have a lot more people around him to say when stuff was dumb so probably a lot better, but that's going into "what if" territory that usually goes nowhere.
Yes he tried something different. That would be commendable if they didn't turn out to be complete horseshit in nearly every regard. Cinematography, dialogue, script, everything outsides a few OK uses of the CGI in the later prequels were all ass and contributed next to nothing when it comes to cinema or Star Wars in general.
He's have a lot more people around him to say when stuff was dumb so probably a lot better, but that's going into "what if" territory that usually goes nowhere.
They cared about acting back then so not possible.
Looks like we are moving on to the "George Lucas had nothing to do with the success of Star Wars, and really should not be taking any credit for any of it, and quite frankly his name should be scrubbed off all the OT and replaced with the mythical Marcia Lucas" delusion
PdotMichael
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It's also funny because the PT relied so hard on the OT in all plot points and random fanservice that trying new things argument is like a bad meme.
People tend to ignore that the Star Wars Galaxy is one that has more or less reached peak scientific discovery. They can travel across the galaxy in days, build planet destroying space stations etc.
The Prequels gave us a look at the wealthier worlds of the galaxy. Tatooine was the asshole of the galaxy. It was never going to look amazing.
No. Because your opinion is not the end-all.
ZombieSupaStar
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the only scene I actually enjoyed in the prequels was the palpatine opera scene, anakin kept his HURRR URRRR DURRRR lines to a minimum and Ian nailed it.
Already Torn
Banned
All of the robots would be little people in costumes.
triplestation
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RACHEL!!!!
I assumed people hate the prequels because they are awful movies without any redeeming quality.
While TFA is a fun star wars movie. Yeah, it's made to sell toys and other merchandising.
But it's a great adventure. Something lucas failed to deliver in the prequels.
The One and Done
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Damn he mad lol
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Marcia Lucas choreographed the lightsaber fight in ESB and told Han Solo to improve the "I know" line.
I'd love to see people defend the dialogue of the prequels.
Show me them so I may laugh in their faces.
HP_Wuvcraft
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.... you're completely serious, aren't you?
A lot of people do.
A lot of people are just blinded by nostalgia.
A lot of people just jumped into the bandwagon of what was popular to do.
In the end, the bolded is just an opinion, though.
Doubt anyone would do that.
I would laugh in the face of anyone who tried to defend the cheesy dialogue of the originals, though.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I would love to see people defend the dialogue in the original star wars movies lol
Finding legitimate faults in the prequels is being blinded by nostalgia or jumping into a bandwagon?
Folks can't and it's because they want to act like its the end all be all.
Meh, nostalgia is horrendous and wish folks got it.
Stallion Dan
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I want Disney to release the OT with all the uneeded changes undone, just for extra Lucas grade salt. Also because I dislike the changes.
Most of the time they are not even legitimate faults.
It's cheesy in a charming, iconic way.
Rather than just...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tLf1JO5bvE
Whatever this is.
ANH was maybe a bit hokey.
The dialogue in ESB and ROTJ were great.
Practically the definition of iconic serial dialogue without going into space gibberish like the prequels.
Gundars, FFS...
triplestation
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MoonsaultSlayer
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I was thinking the same thing haha. I took the Internet's disapproval of the PT into account when watching the OT and came away with "yep, nostalgia is a helluva thing. I get it, though.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
"You're so beautiful
It's only because I'm so in love
No it's because I'm so in love with you
So love has blinded you?"
God it's so much worse typing it out
Anyway, I believe those people who defend the prequels are on theforce.net. I also believe those people think "if it isn't made by Lucas = not canon" so they disregard TFA as a result.
lol. You can't be serious.
If by "star wars" you literally mean "Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope" maybe
Already Torn
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Yes. Even if you were young enough to have nostalgia for the prequels and not the OT. Then you're just a bandwagoner. If you rerelease Episode I in theaters today it would do just as well as TFA. Maybe add in 3D AND imax?
cj_iwakura
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Everyone was nuts over Episode 1's Duel of the Fates then 2's Yoda duel, then it was hated when the next came out. It's kind of cyclical.
(Mind you, I like the prequel trilogy.)
People then found things to nitpick over. With 1 it was the midichlorians. Then with 2, the love story, Then with 3, the 'ridiculous' lightsaber fights. Internet and Plinkett, mostly.
MoonsaultSlayer
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A different voice, direction and performer could have helped but the lines themselevs aren't necessarily the problem when it's establishing his character.
Oh, for those particular elements at least, yeah. That's true. (Duel of the Fates is still pretty well regarded, I think.)
Er yes, the vast majority of people still watched and enjoyed.
Interfectum
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No it wouldn't.
It's excuse-making, pure and simple. Trying something new doesn't redeem having no heart, nothing at stake, and just poor writing throughout.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
I feel for him. I think his true talent lies in creating the big picture and major plot points. I feel like thats what made Clone Wars so good. He created the larger broader strokes but he had Filioni there to create the minor details. In fact it's part of the reason why I believe The Clone Wars to be a mandatory view when Judging the PT. They help justify some of the noise that's going on.
I often wonder what the PT would have been like had Kasten and Spielberg come on board for Episode I.
I often wonder what the PT would have been like had Kasten and Spielberg come on board for Episode I.
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