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HTC unveils Vive Pre, its second-generation VR system
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Skulduggery
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Ok, after watching this hands on, I'm a bit less disappointed. Seems genuinely useful, but it needs more. The CV1 needs a real depth sensor to go with the camera, then it will be perfect.
Movalpolos
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More comfy too. But I haven't tried "Pre" yet.
The video in the OP shows a woman that finds a chair with the headset. That's pretty awesome if she is not using the passtrough video feature.
Snore Crime
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I'm intrigued by VR but I'm not gunna be an early adopter, not even sure my PC is capable for it right now anyway.
Vive seems to be pushing more types of motion control and I just don't know if I'd be as bothered about that as just being able to use VR sitting down and not fumbling into stuff. I know that's what the camera's supposed to solve but I dunno.
Vive seems to be pushing more types of motion control and I just don't know if I'd be as bothered about that as just being able to use VR sitting down and not fumbling into stuff. I know that's what the camera's supposed to solve but I dunno.
Because of the thread title. It's pretty much known that most of the people don't bother with the OP and just read the title.
The way they have presented it doesn't seem to make it out as much of a breakthrough, but if the 3d mapping is good enough, there is some great potential for AR and mixed reality uses.
It also doesn't help that we can't see and interact with this stuff and the chaperone benefits. Until some devs actually make use of it and HTC / Valve find a way to demo the benefits well, it will remain pretty meh to most people
That is why this system is great. It can actually show you your desk and stuff that is on it. You could potentially use a keyboard (or any other peripheral) while wearing the headset.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-u...a763&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
Send to VR graveyard if it is old
Called it
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189915203&postcount=81
Why not? Gen is absolutely the correct nomenclature for device versions/generations.
Movalpolos
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"Version" usually applies to software and not hardware.
It can apply to hardware too. Both are used.
Comandr
Member
Fuck. Now I'm imagining exploring an environment only to turn around and there's someone sitting on my couch. Why did you do this, Polish.
Haha, changing the "reality" while you are in the virtual reality. That's a great idea.
Edit: that could maybe work also as some kind of co-op?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k321gmwXDV0
always felt this was a missed opportunity (front facing cam)
A HTC PR rep called it a major breaktrough. A company that is used to making phones with tiny improvements each year.
Valve never said anything about it.
Fried Food
Banned
Holy cheap HTC is determined to spoil the well. WTF announcing the next version if he hardware before the first has even reached regular folk?
People were worried about Oculus SMH
Is a front facing camera that big a deal.
People were worried about Oculus SMH
Is a front facing camera that big a deal.
In case people aren't paying attention, it has better lenses, a better screen, a better implementation of Lighthouse, it is a smaller headset.
It is an improvement on their older devkit? Fuck progress, we've invented the wheel lets stick with that.
It is an improvement on their older devkit? Fuck progress, we've invented the wheel lets stick with that.
GravityMan
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The front-facing camera is a good addition that should help reduce the concerns some folks had about real-world isolation.
The whole "major breakthrough" stuff was just marketing speak by a HTC PR person to draw attention and build hype. That's part of his job. Who cares.
And some folks here are really overthinking this whole "generation" stuff. This is a devkit revision. Therefore it's sensible to say that it's second-gen. Generation incrementing is common in development (both hardware and software). The retail box probably won't say "second gen".
The whole "major breakthrough" stuff was just marketing speak by a HTC PR person to draw attention and build hype. That's part of his job. Who cares.
And some folks here are really overthinking this whole "generation" stuff. This is a devkit revision. Therefore it's sensible to say that it's second-gen. Generation incrementing is common in development (both hardware and software). The retail box probably won't say "second gen".
Because progress in VR is happening at an incredible pace.
Devkit, not hardware.
New promo video from HTC for the Vive Pre. Also, Chell (protagonist from Portal and Portal 2) at 0:53?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB9ecPgZlq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB9ecPgZlq0
AllIsOneIsNone
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I don't get it. They said they delayed the Vive because of a breakthrough, yet it's not really a breakthrough and it's not related to the release of their original Vive since the new one is only a dev kit. Is it just that the focus has shifted toward the new tech?
The commercial version is a mirror of Pre according to the news today.
TrAcEr_x90
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was that the female from portal?
Its the second generation DEVKIT. the consumer version will be a slight improvement on this second generation DEVKIT and will release in april.
Front facing camera should be a basic part of any VR HMD imo, especially for the Vive since its the only system that does roomscale out of the box.
ashecitism
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also, from Tom's HW article:
I'm sticking with my $699-799 price for the Vive. HTC can't afford to not make money on this, even with how niche it and VR in general will be for the first few years.
metareferential
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ITT: we don't understand how devkit development works
MickeyKnox
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ashecitism
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Have you finished compiling that Viveport list or whatever?
They called it the "Pre"? Can't wait until the first ads come out.
there wont be TV ads since this is a devkit, not the consumer version. which will be an even further improved design
the trailer posted by ashecitism, is just a fancy presentation for CES like they did for their first devkit
How much could possibly change when the device is supposed to be available to consumers in 3 months? Manufacturing takes time, especially for new devices where errors will pop up pretty often in the first few batches.
I know this is for devs, but doesn't this kinda kill the hype for consumers when the first version isn't even out?
Is sort of like showing off the PS5, before the PS4 is even released.
And didn't they say this breakthrough was the reason for the 1st gen versions delay? But its not in the 1st gen? What am I missing? Should I read some stuff?
edit: I see they are kinda using "generation' her loosely. As well as not having "Dev kit" in the article title or OP.
Is sort of like showing off the PS5, before the PS4 is even released.
And didn't they say this breakthrough was the reason for the 1st gen versions delay? But its not in the 1st gen? What am I missing? Should I read some stuff?
edit: I see they are kinda using "generation' her loosely. As well as not having "Dev kit" in the article title or OP.
Not really since Oculus is mainly a sitting down experience and when Touch comes out in second half of 2016 you will mostly be standing in place and possibly moving around a smaller area.
I read the OP, and it is not completely clear. Doesn't mention "2nd gen dev kit" in the op. Just that they unveiled their "its second-generation VR hardware for developers". With a new name. Which can easily imply, hey this is our next gen VR, basically Vive 2.
Don't get the people who are underwhelmed by this. This just made room-scale VR a lot more realistic, how many people actually had a completely obstacle-free space planned out? Also, if devs can make it so that you can physically interact with real-world objects represented in VR, that's going to help with presence.
Wait what? Have you seriously only heard the term "generation" in regards to consoles? Your post literally doesn't make sense.
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Wait what? Have you seriously only heard the term "generation" in regards to consoles? Your post literally doesn't make sense.
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But basic common sense tells us that it's the former.