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[Caipirinha]

Just occurred to me there is very very little on the horizon for console horror fans in 2016, unless I'm missing something?

Still waiting for something to scratch my Silent Hill/Siren itch in this generation, but I'll take your Alien Isolations and Until Dawn's too.

 

[Acquiescence]

What pisses me off more is that most if not all survival-horror in development now is first-person. What the hell happened to all the third-person horror games?!

 

[Bedameister]

Let's wait for the RE7 announcement

Spoiler

Even though it will probably be shit again

 

[Sn4ke_911]

 

[The perfect Dark]

Outlast is not survival horror.

 

[Dragon1893]

Right now I'm scratching that itch with RE0. After that, I don't know.

 

[abracadaver]

Layers of Fear

 

[Kup]

Thinking the same, OP. I am considering downloading Resident Evil Remake on PS4 to tide me over.

 

[abstract alien]

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Has no idea this was happening this year. The first was such a great ride, and the DLC is insane. This is definitely on my list. Media blackout pre-initiated.

 

[Skrams]

I think Forgotten Memories is supposed to be out this year on PS4 and a bunch of other stuff. It's very SH2 inspired and Guy Cihi voices a character even. I'm not sure if it'll be the full package or not though. I know episode 1 came out on iOS, but I'm not sure if the next episode ever hit or not.

 

[Mifec]

Outlast is not survival horror.

It's also a very boring game.

 

[CryptiK]

Outlast is not survival horror.

Yes it is.

 

[Funyarinpa]

There was something for Vita, IIRC...

Not 2016, but we have two System Shock games coming up on the horizon!

 

[PSOreo]

Outlast is not survival horror.

Yes it is.

In all seriousness I'm very much looking forward to this sequel, the original was a lot of fun with the odd scare. Lets hope the ending is less disappointing.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Yes it is.

Nah.

Survival horror refers to a subgenre of horror video games.[5][6] The player character is vulnerable and under-armed,[7] which puts emphasis on puzzle-solving and evasion, rather than violence.[8] Games commonly challenge the player to manage their inventory[9] and ration scarce resources such as ammunition.[7][8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_horror

Outlast is a hide and seek game.

 

[zerotol]

Outlast is not survival horror.

How is it not?

It's also a very boring game.

Nope

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Yes it is.

Survival horror is usually defined by the ability to defend yourself and needing to manage ammo.

Games like slender and outlast have no defensive mechanics. They're fun horror games, but not survival horror.

For survival horror, look at Resident Evil games. Or even the evil within.

 

[zerotol]

Nah.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_horror

Outlast is a hide and seek game.

Bullshit.

Oh Wikipedia, the defining source of whatever

 

[Auto-Reply]

They are probably hard at work getting VR support in there, no news until that's done!

 

[Atomski]

What pisses me off more is that most if not all survival-horror in development now is first-person. What the hell happened to all the third-person horror games?!

Meh I think once we discovered how good fps was for horror there was no going back. It's just better.. But that's my opinion.


What happened to Routine... Haven't seen that in a bit.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Bullshit.

Oh Wikipedia, the defining source of whatever

What is wrong with people?

Yeah sure...show me another definition. And please, not your own.

Edit: Eh, forget it. I'm too tired for this discussion.

 

[zerotol]

What is wrong with people?

Yeah sure...show me another definition. And please, not your own.

Stick with Wikipedia breh. The world is your oyster.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Meh I think once we discovered how good fps was for horror there was no going back. It's just better.. But that's my opinion.

3rd person can definitely have better feeling controls and gameplay than fps, considering how good re4 is.

But in terms of immersion and getting spooked? It's not even a competition anymore. Fps is the way to go.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Stick with Wikipedia breh. The world is your oyster.

Please don't get upset and aggressive just because someone disagrees with you.

Either present an argument or leave thanks. You're not contributing to the discussion at the moment.

 

[CryptiK]

Nah.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_horror

Outlast is a hide and seek game.

You realise that that Wikipedia article states that Amnesia and Penumbra are also survival horror games right? Both present the same gameplay as Outlast. In which you must Survive throughout the Horror game.

Examples of independent survival horror games are the Penumbra series and Amnesia: The Dark Descent by Frictional Games, Cry of Fear by Team Psykskallar and Slender: The Eight Pages, all of which were praised for creating a horrific setting and atmosphere without the overuse of violence or gore.

So if we are citing Wikipedia you are still wrong

 

[Endesu]

I don't think survival horror should be defined primarily by Resident Evil-styled mechanics. Clock Tower and Hell Night have you control largely defenseless protagonists, but I don't think anybody would argue that they're not survival horror games.

Of course, the use of that label is problematic primarily because people can never agree on how to define it. Kind of wish Capcom had never coined it.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Stick with Wikipedia breh. The world is your oyster.

Okay, I will. Thanks, and don't tell me when I have to use wikipedia. I've studied and I'm old enough know the definition of survival horror myself.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

OP in terms of 3rd person survival horror, odds are there will be a few indie ones this year. I can't vouch for the quality of 3rd person indie games though, admittedly a lot of them have seriously Janky controls, which destroy 3rd person survival horror.

 

[Atomski]

3rd person can definitely have better feeling controls and gameplay than fps, considering how good re4 is.

But in terms of immersion and getting spooked? It's not even a competition anymore. Fps is the way to go.

You lost me at RE4.. That's when the series went all action and less survival and horror.

Now if you want to talk about pre RE4 then sure it was done well. Because the dramatic camera angles always made you feel like their was something around the corner you couldn't see. Never got that feeling in RE4.

I don't think survival horror should be defined primarily by Resident Evil-styled mechanics. Clock Tower and Hell Night have you control largely defenseless protagonists, but I don't think anybody would argue that they're not survival horror games.

Of course, the use of that label is problematic primarily because people can never agree on how to define it. Kind of wish Capcom had never coined it.

Totally agree

 

[Subpar Scrub]

I don't think survival horror should be defined primarily by Resident Evil-styled mechanics. Clock Tower and Hell Night have you control largely defenseless protagonists, but I don't think anybody would argue that they're not survival horror games.

Of course, the use of that label is problematic primarily because people can never agree on how to define it. Kind of wish Capcom had never coined it.

It's mainly used to give people a quick idea of what the game is like. Survival horror is usually used to refer to RE-like games, atleast in many of the horror game discussions, so that you don't have to specify the many nuances of the genre, such as keys, ammo restrictions, health management etc.

I'm not arguing what survival horror means by definition, just what many people identify survival horror as being.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

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[zerotol]

Please don't get upset and aggressive just because someone disagrees with you.

Either present an argument or leave thanks. You're not contributing to the discussion at the moment.

Not upset. Amused.

Your name's not red. I can agree or disagree with whatever I want within the TOS.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

You lost me at RE4.. That's when the series went all action and less survival and horror.

Now if you want to talk about pre RE4 then sure it was done well. Because the dramatic camera angles always made you feel like their was something around the corner you couldn't see. Never got that feeling in RE4.



Totally agree

I was talking purely controls in a 3rd person game. REmake is far scarier than 4.

 

[DemoCracy]

Yes it is.

AYKM? it's not survival horror

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Not upset. Amused.

You're name's not red. I can agree or disagree with whatever I want within the TOS.

What? Of course I'm not a Mod, doesn't mean I can't call you out on effectively posting "nah though" without adding any detail.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Also OP, have you seen much of forgotten memories?

 

[CryptiK]

AYKM? it's not survival horror

Thats not true. Survival Horror is a game where the player must survive throughout the game. Has nothing to do with having guns etc, maybe it was that many years ago but not any more. Look at my above posts.

 

[Lurgan1337]

none of them survived.
well, Silent Hills at least did not.

 

[Gravy Boat]

Not upset. Amused.

Your name's not red. I can agree or disagree with whatever I want within the TOS.

lol, Why're you being so aggressive in your disagreement here? You've been snarky as hell in every one of your replies.

Thats not true. Survival Horror is a game where the player must survive throughout the game. Has nothing to do with having guns etc, maybe it was that many years ago but not any more. Look at my above posts.

Wouldn't that make Skyrim a Survival Fantasy game then? Most games require you to survive throughout the game.

 

[-MD-]

Thats not true. Survival Horror is a game where the player must survive throughout the game. Has nothing to do with having guns etc, maybe it was that many years ago but not any more. Look at my above posts.

So any game with an enemy is survival horror then.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

none of them survived.
well, Silent Hills at least did not.

Was it ever confirmed if it would have a 1st/3rd person toggle? That would have been amazing.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Thats not true. Survival Horror is a game where the player must survive throughout the game. Has nothing to do with having guns etc, maybe it was that many years ago but not any more. Look at my above posts.

That description could use some fleshing out

 

[Jay Sosa]

Why not let people decide for themselves if it's survival horror or not. Don't spam the thread with this genre bullshit.

Spoiler

Souls games are not JRPGs

 

[Kuraudo]

Thats not true. Survival Horror is a game where the player must survive throughout the game. Has nothing to do with having guns etc, maybe it was that many years ago but not any more. Look at my above posts.

Breaking the term down literally is like saying that all games are roleplaying games because you play a role.

Outlast and Resident Evil are both horror games, but they're both based on very different base design philosophies, so much so that they're not in the same genre. This is why we have genres in the first place - to differentiate subsets of games. Outlast and Resi are too different gameplay-wise to belong to the same genre, hence one being pure horror the other survival horror. The OP is clearly asking for a certain genre - saying Outlast II is coming out when it doesn't fit the criteria is like recommending the Witcher 3 in a JRPG thread.

 

[CryptiK]

So any game with an enemy is survival horror then.

No. Thats a very silly logical leap. Obviously has to have a horror theme to it.

lol, Why're you being so aggressive in your disagreement here? You've been snarky as hell in every one of your replies.


Wouldn't that mean Skyrim a Survival Fantasy game then? Most games require you to survive throughout the game.

Sure it could if you want to add to a previously defined genre it can be what ever you want. Doesnt change the fact that Outlast is very distinctive in how you have very little control of your environment and you have to use your wits to survive. I mean how does common sense not rain in here and easily point out its survival horror. Outlast has almost everything RE has but without the weapons. You have resources that are scarce camera batteries, you solve puzzles etc etc.

 

[veloxStrix]

Hiding behind the generally poor marketing most survival horror games get, probably.

 

[nbnt]

What pisses me off more is that most if not all survival-horror in development now is first-person. What the hell happened to all the third-person horror games?!

Because animations. Since no one is willing to fund triple A horror games anymore, first person is way easier to make for indie devs.

 

[Burgess_101]

You are all arguing semantics here. There is no defining version of survival horror and there never will be.

Same with every other genre discussion out there.

 

[Warablo]

Not a 2016 game, but maybe Dying Light on hard or new nightmare mode.

 

[Gravy Boat]

Sure it could if you want to add to a previously defined genre it can be what ever you want. Doesnt change the fact that Outlast is very distinctive in how you have very little control of your environment and you have to use your wits to survive. I mean how does common sense not rain in here and easily point out its survival horror.

Common sense hasn't played a part in naming genres in a long time. RPG, Moba, brawler, etc all have very broad definitions that could apply to virtually every game if taken literally, but in reality apply to a reasonably narrow set of criteria. For the longest time, resource management has been a defining factor in survival horror games (Dead Space, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, The Last Of Us etc etc).

Outlast is a horror game, no doubt, but I don't think it fits into the same category as the above examples. Nothing wrong with that either, it's not a slate against the game or anything. You can call it survival horror if you want, but the reasoning for your definition is off.