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[MThanded]

At that price it's a day one for me.

Let's see if it's true.

 

[slavesnyder]

That's my hope, not my expectation.

 

[JimJamJones]

An 8 day old sketchy rumor from Reddit, you say?

 

[Rootbeer]

Are we sure it's the same camera as from the PS4 launch? Or does it require an updated camera.

 

[Gravy Boat]

I'm in a closed thread!!!

Super obnoxious.

That's probably cheaper than I expected to be, assuming that's close to the actual price.

 

[Kaako]

Day freaking Juan at that price.

 

[Shuggananas]

"reddit rumor"

 

[Vashetti]

Also, there is no way they are going to release one without the camera. No way. Devs would have to make two versions of their experience. Nope, it wil have to come with the camera.

You do realise PSVR literally doesn't work without the PS Camera, right? Devs will be making one experience.

 

[Visualante2]

So...£349 in the UK somehow.

$428 = £297.62 + 20% VAT = £357.14. So yeah they'd actually be doing you a favour at £349. Somehow!

I wonder if they will bump Vita or PS3 off the PS+ monthly games to make space for PSVR titles?

 

[Fhtagn]

$299 is the price people want, but I think $399 is way more likely. I'd be happy to be wrong but better to have higher expectations than the other way round IMHO.

 

[Hoo-doo]

You do realise PSVR literally doesn't work without the PS Camera, right? Devs will be making one experience.

And that's exactly why they are packing in a camera. They are not going to sell paperweights to the large majority of PS4 owners.

 

[AngryMoth]

I'd be in day 1 at that price but definitely seems too good to be true. I'm expecting $400 for the standalone

 

[Vashetti]

Are we sure it's the same camera as from the PS4 launch? Or does it require an updated camera.

It's exactly the same, it was designed to be used with PSVR.

 

[Backfoggen]

Seems like wishful thinking

 

[mclem]

Handy; I picked up a Move Starter Kit late last year for about a tenner.

 

[Dreamwriter]

not really.

camera, you need of course. DS4 has a light and tilt sensors. if you have a Move game (Dreams) you probably only need 1 Move, 2 would be bonus.

Have you thought of the practicality of that? DS4 has a light on only one side facing one direction. That's only really useful for games designed specifically for that, not as a Move replacement. Try waving the DS4 around like a magic wand, making sure to keep the light facing straight forward - not a simple task.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

I never understood this argument.

"But the PC + Oculus costs $1,200!! And there are MILLIONS of PS4's!!"

First of all, The market that would be interested in an Oculus is NOT the "I don't even own a PC" market. It's the "I already own a PC" market. Secondly, the market of PC gamers with specs the same or better than a PS4 right now, nevermind half a year from now, is LARGER than the PS4 market. Nearly 50% of active Steam users alone qualify (or about 70 Million people - just in terms of the active Steam user base).

Finally, you tell me: out of these two who is MOST likely to actually be willign to spend severla hundred dollars on a VR headset?

- Random average console gamer?

- Random Average PC gamer with specs matching or beating a PS4?

The PSVR needs to be as inexpensive as possible, because for most console gamers, price is all that matters, not so much the quality the experience (although all current data suggests that while PSVR is not quite at the level of Oculus or Vive, it should still provide pretty compelling experience - but it doesn't matter if it was better than the Oculus - if it costs $600 it's dead in the water - the Oculus? Not so much, as it is targeting a very different market - if the Oculus was cheaper but lagged behind the Vive in terms of quality experiences, I think a PC market would likely go for the Vive instead.).

my comment was in regards to mass market adoption of a VR headset and the initial upfront cost for a VR setup to the average person, with the assumption being that the person has zero of the required gear to get started.

Given the hypothetical scenario of someone walking into a store and they wish to walk out with a VR headset, the PSVR is the best option for that person given the lower upfront cost and the supposed quality of the product and its upcoming software.

I'm not saying that PSVR is competing directly with the OR or that the Oculus isn't worth the cost of the product and the potential that lies within it given its platform. In that sense, i agree with you. But VR on the PC requires, what, a $400 GPU, a CPU, a motherboard, ram, HDD, etc. And if youre capable of assembling that then you've saved some cash compared to just buying an already built desktop that meets the requirements of the OR. When it comes to the initial expense, the OR is more expensive no matter how you cut it.

 

[Withnail]

the fact that the bundle price is 428 and not 429.99 tells me this is all made up. Total bullcrap, but if I'm wrong then I'm wrong.

Read it again. 428 is 129+299. They're just saying 428 would be the combined cost for both packs, it's not an actual price.

 

[Forkball]

If this thing is $299 I seriously question its quality.

 

[TalonJH]

Perfect. Already have the PS4 camera, can pick up Move for $20 these days. It's right at my estimate as well. Cross fingers but I would buy either way.

The camera and move controllers go for cheap nowadays.

I think that the move controllers have to be new cause I doubt the old ones can connect to the PS4.

You can use them on the PS4 right now. Sportsfriends/Johann Sebastian Joust and Octodad uses them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJkAUxue8m8

 

[ps3ud0]

Sure, 15% adoption rate at launch is pretty good. But back then the PS4 had sold 6 million. Right now we're nearing what, almost 40 million consoles sold?
The complete drop-off of support for the thing post-launch is not making me think it kept selling at that pace. So is it really worth selling seperately if (at best) 5% of the current PS4 userbase owns one right now?

I don't think Sony are going to risk consumer confusion and backlash just to satisfy such a small percentage of users. There should be one box for a set price that every PS4 owner can buy and use immediately without even considering having to buy peripherals. The barrier to entry has to be as low as humanly possible.

Your point comes over as poor supposition. Id love to see the Venn diagram of people too stupid to work out the box contents yet are comfortable early adopters for VR.

One box for standalone PSVR and another for the whole package doesnt seem like a challenge from the Krypton Factor (though Im not giving any credence to this rumour)

ps3ud0 8)

 

[Memento]

If this thing is $299 I seriously question its quality.

There are hundreds of impressions, every single one is positive.

 

[DjRalford]

Camera. Check

Move controllers. Check


Cheap entry woohoo

 

[Hoo-doo]

Have you thought of the practicality of that? DS4 has a light on only one side facing one direction. That's only really useful for games designed specifically for that, not as a Move replacement. Try waving the DS4 around like a magic wand, making sure to keep the light facing straight forward - not a simple task.

Any seated or cockpit-based game would work perfectly with a DS4. You get the benefits of a full-fledged controller with light motion inputs.

What, do you honestly expect every VR title to be an arms-flailing Kinect-like experience?

Your point comes over as poor supposition. Id love to see the Venn diagram of people too stupid to work out the box contents yet are comfortable early adopters for VR.

One box for standalone PSVR and another for the whole package doesnt seem like a challenge from the Krypton Factor (though Im not giving any credence to this rumour)

ps3ud0 8)

It's not a matter of being too stupid to work out the box contents. It's a matter keeping barrier to entry at it's lowest point.
They are not going to be selling separate PSVR units that simply don't work unless you have [rather obscure peripheral X]. It's not worth it.

And obviously this is all supposition based on the shakiest of rumors. But if you feel the relatively insignificant percentage of PS4 users who already own a PS Camera means that Sony is going to be taking risks on consumer backlash and product confusion with a product launch as fragile as PSVR, I simply disagree.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Already have the PS4 camera and move controllers are going cheap these days, so will get the stand alone if they offer a choice.

Really hope they can keep the cost down in the UK, if it launches at $299 in the US. £250 - £300 would be ideal but knowing how we always get ripped off, I'm betting it will be over £300, but £349 is the absolute max I'm willing to pay for PS-VR.

 

[Elandyll]

I never understood this argument.

"But the PC + Oculus costs $1,200!! And there are MILLIONS of PS4's!!"

First of all, The market that would be interested in an Oculus is NOT the "I don't even own a PC" market. It's the "I already own a PC" market. Secondly, the market of PC gamers with specs the same or better than a PS4 right now, nevermind half a year from now, is LARGER than the PS4 market. Nearly 50% of active Steam users alone qualify (or about 70 Million people - just in terms of the active Steam user base).

Finally, you tell me: out of these two who is MOST likely to actually be willign to spend severla hundred dollars on a VR headset?

- Random average console gamer?

- Random Average PC gamer with specs matching or beating a PS4?

The PSVR needs to be as inexpensive as possible, because for most console gamers, price is all that matters, not so much the quality the experience (although all current data suggests that while PSVR is not quite at the level of Oculus or Vive, it should still provide pretty compelling experience - but it doesn't matter if it was better than the Oculus - if it costs $600 it's dead in the water - the Oculus? Not so much, as it is targeting a very different market - if the Oculus was cheaper but lagged behind the Vive in terms of quality experiences, I think a PC market would likely go for the Vive instead.).

Didn't Nvidia's estimate put the PC VR ready user base at about 13m users?

Anyways, I think that initially -both- Occulus and PSVR will aim at the tech enthusiast, because let's face it, it's about putting a weird contraption on your head that cuts you off the real world (in that aspect, the social 2nd screen for the PSVR was a mandatory step for something you equip in front of a TV I imagine).

Only with time, hands on trying and wom is there a chance that VR will expand beyond that.

A $299 price would just lower the barrier of entry for the less fortunate tech enthusiasts, with a full setup (PS4+Camera+PSVR) being then sub $700 (possibly sub $650 if the PS4 drops again to $299).

 

[Amir0x]

Even for a Reddit rumour, this seems tenuous at best. Would be a nice entry price, provided the Morpheus is a good VR experience like Oculus is. Oculus changed my perspective on games forever, so I need VR to do well somewhere as long as it has reached the bare minimum to blow minds, then we can have much better iterations at better prices down the line. Adoption is key now.

 

[fastest finger]

I have the camera, I have Move, I have 300 stashed in a drawer ready.

I can be there day 1.

Put us out of our misery Sony.

 

[HvySky]

I was expecting $450-$500, honestly. If actually true, this is a game changer for me. I could actually, potentially, afford a headset on day one!

 

[DigitalScrap]

Hopefully this rumor won't spread TOO much, and not very many people put too much faith in it, as I have a strong feeling there will many very disappointed people if so.

 

[Bedameister]

damn that would be way cheaper than I thought

 

[Dreamwriter]

Any seated or cockpit-based game would work perfectly with a DS4. You get the benefits of a full-fledged controller with light motion inputs.

What, do you honestly expect every VR title to be an arms-flailing Kinect-like experience?

The majority of the games I've seen videos of require a Move. I've only seen one that uses the light on the DS4 to track its motion.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

I can do $299 because it will be discounted and can be at least purchased for 20% off. Hopefully the $299 sticks. Retailers will be all over that.

 

[MUnited83]

lel


not happening

 

[FireCloud]

Saw this rumor last week and didn't think much of it. I thought after last gen the whole "heard it from a _____ rep" thing was a meme.

If the price for the stand-alone unit is truly $299, then I'll be there day 1. I'm willing to go as much as $399.95 for it. I already have the PS4 camera and all of the move stuff from last gen (2 move controllers and the nav controller). It would make sense for Sony to either offer the components separately and communicate what is required or to have different bundles based on the components you already may own. If it altered the price, I don't know how I would feel about having to re-purchase the camera if it came bundled in with the HMD and the external processing unit.

 

[Stike]

I have the camera, I have Move, I have 300 stashed in a drawer ready.

I can be there day 1.

Put us out of our misery Sony.

I have 400€ set aside. More if necessary.
I also have the camera and two Moves. By the way, those Move charger stations are cheap as fuck currently

RELEASE THE KRAKEN PSVR, Sony!!!

 

[Plinko]

In for $299. That would be amazing.

 

[TheRealTalker]

fake or not they would hit the nose with that price

the PS4 unexpectedly good price all over again

 

[nillah]

PSVR bundled with PS4 or bust

 

[Hoo-doo]

I remember when everyone thought the PS Vita (or Sony NGP as it was called then) was supposed to be at least 400$ too according to specs and display tech used. Let's hope Sony can surprise us with this thing.

 

[slavesnyder]

And that's exactly why they are packing in a camera. They are not going to sell paperweights to the large majority of PS4 owners.

No way it will be 299 with camera.
I understand your line of thinking that an included camera would reduce confusion, but I just can't see them doing helmet+cam for that price.

 

[qa_engineer]

Read it again. 428 is 129+299. They're just saying 428 would be the combined cost for both packs, it's not an actual price.

Ahh got it. thanks.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

More or less what I expected/hoped, tbh. I already have a full Move set (yep) so if they do sell a standalone this will be an easier point of entry, for me.

 

[Massa]

And that's exactly why they are packing in a camera. They are not going to sell paperweights to the large majority of PS4 owners.

They're definitely going to offer a SKU without the camera. Also that camera sold a lot better than you think.

 

[demigod]

And that's exactly why they are packing in a camera. They are not going to sell paperweights to the large majority of PS4 owners.

They will have 2 versions. You and border will be eating crow, book it.

 

[Kenclops]

I remember when everyone thought the PS Vita (or Sony NGP as it was called then) was supposed to be at least 400$ too according to specs and display tech used. Let's hope Sony can surprise us with this thing.

Hey it was close to 400$ at launch after Memory Card for a VITA!

 

[Saroyan]

299 for the headset and that other add-on box that PSVR supposedly needs? I don't believe it, either its really cheaply made or this is just pulled out of someone's ass.

 

[Josh7289]

Sounds about right. If that's the real price, I think I'm going to try to make sure I can buy one. I really want to try Ace Combat 7 in VR.

 

[ArchedThunder]

If true it's pretty much the exact price I was hoping for.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Didn't Sony say it would be sold at a profit? Absolutely no way it will be $299.