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Report: NX to make Foxconn Technology Co., Ltd. operations hot in 2016 second half

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Luigiv

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Neoxon said:
If Trev's source is to be believed (namely the schedule aspects), we may get the console first & the handheld later.
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No reason not to believe trevs source. The 3ds and Wii U release schedule stuff is too spot on to be fake. Well I guess he still could have pulled the Zelda NX part out of his ass, using the real leak as a means of legitimising his troll, but that seems unlikely.
 
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lwilliams3

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Neoxon said:
There's still the fact that Trev's source never mentioned a cross-gen Sun/Moon, something that he/she should know about given the fact that he/she knew about Zelda U being a cross-gen release. I'd be greatly, & pleasantly, surprised if Sun/Moon followed in Zelda U's footsteps.
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While I have doubts about the NX getting a port of Sun/Moon too, it should be noted that Trev's source doesn't seem to know anything about the NX-portable. Trev's assumption about the release schedule is based on the 3DS' much stronger line-up for this year. If I recall correctly, even the knowledge of Zelda going to the NX was probably not suppose to be on the document he/she read.
 
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Jim_Cacher

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It's time for the translation! I will only translate the two paragraphs which are relevant to NX.

The first paragraph:

As iPhone's inventory still remains, investors believe Foxconn Technology's consolidated revenue for Q1 will decline compared with that of Q4 last year. However, with rising demand for new products like 4'' iPhone, Chinese smartphones and NB, Foxconn's consolidated revenue for Q2 is expected to stabilize. In the second half of the year, with the roll out of iPhone 7 and Nintendo's new console NX, operating revenue will rise.
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The fifth paragraph:

With the roll out of iPhone 7 and Nintendo NX, investors believe Foxconn's operation will focus on the second half of this year. It is expected that operation momentum (營運動能) for the company in second half of the year will obviously increase compared with that of the first half.
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I have no idea what NB or operation momentum (營運動能) is. Please pardon my rough translation.
 
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maxcriden

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Jim_Cacher said:
It's time for the translation! I will only translate the two paragraphs which are relevant to NX.

The first paragraph:

The fifth paragraph:

I have no idea what NB or operation momentum (營運動能) is. Please pardon my rough translation.
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Thanks so much, Jim! This sure makes it sound like we are getting an NX system of some kind, likely console (based on other information and reasonable speculation), this year. Can you tell from the article if the source is Foxconn itself or simply analyst speculation, though?
 
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DriftingSpirit

Member
Jim_Cacher said:
It's time for the translation! I will only translate the two paragraphs which are relevant to NX.

The first paragraph:



The fifth paragraph:



I have no idea what NB or operation momentum (營運動能) is. Please pardon my rough translation.
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Thank you!

NX (console) 2016!
 
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Jim_Cacher

Member
maxcriden said:
Thanks so much, Jim! This sure makes it sound like we are getting an NX system of some kind, likely console (based on other information and reasonable speculation), this year. Can you tell from the article if the source is Foxconn itself or simply analyst speculation, though?
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You are welcome. I believe the source is analyst speculation.
 
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Wandering Robot

Member
Jim_Cacher said:
It's time for the translation! I will only translate the two paragraphs which are relevant to NX.

The first paragraph:



The fifth paragraph:



I have no idea what NB or operation momentum (營運動能) is. Please pardon my rough translation.
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Thank you!
Jim_Cacher said:
I believe the source is analyst speculation.
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With operating revenue expected to rise based on the NX and investors believing that its release is per the course for the latter part of the year, though, isn't that a lot like confirmation?
 
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Jim_Cacher

Member
Wandering Robot said:
Thank you!


With operating revenue expected to rise based on the NX and investors believing that its release is per the course for the latter part of the year, though, isn't that a lot like confirmation?
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Oh, I was not clear enough. The article is written by a journalist, not an analyst. And I think there is no actual confirmation from Foxconn as all the release information and expectations stated in the article are followed by wordings like “investors believe...”.
 
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Ansatz

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Historically Nintendo introduces a new brand every two generations with the exception of GC and I see no reason why this won't be the case again

GB -> GBA
DS -> 3DS

NES -> SNES
N64 -> NGC
Wii -> Wii U
 
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Wandering Robot

Member
Jim_Cacher said:
Oh, I was not clear enough. The article is written by a journalist, not an analyst. And I think there is no actual confirmation from Foxconn as all the release information and expectations stated in the article are followed by wordings like “investors believe...”.
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Oh, no problem. With many signs already pointing to a release this year, though, I'm hopeful that there's more confirmation to come soon (short of a full-blown reveal, of course).

As for a name...no rumors I know of. I like "NX" as is, though I don't expect it to stay.
 
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tr1p1ex

Member
Thraktor said:
For those who don't think Nintendo are going to release the NX this year:

1. AMD have repeatedly talked about a product with a semi-custom APU releasing in the second half of this year.



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2. Macronix have told investors to expect "exceptional" ROM sales this year due to a "new generation platform" from one of their key customers. Nintendo is by far their largest ROM customer.

(Link)

Even if you ignore the IHS report, the Digi-Times report, the report this thread is based on, or Trev's leak, which has held up thus far, that's two of Nintendo's main suppliers telling their shareholders that their tech is going to be used in a major new device to be launched later this year, and in both cases Nintendo is by far the most likely customer. The evidence overwhelmingly supports Nintendo releasing at least one of their NX "family" by the end of 2016.
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They didn't say the device was going to be launched later this year. They said these chip sales are going to hit the bottom line later this year. There is a difference.

Chip sales would come before console sales. I don't know what the lead time is. But probably at least months.
 
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Shiggy

Member
What's so unbelievable about the NX releasing this year? Nintendo has revealed and released systems within the same year before.
 
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AzaK

Member
Thraktor said:
For those who don't think Nintendo are going to release the NX this year:

1. AMD have repeatedly talked about a product with a semi-custom APU releasing in the second half of this year.



(Link)



(Link)

2. Macronix have told investors to expect "exceptional" ROM sales this year due to a "new generation platform" from one of their key customers. Nintendo is by far their largest ROM customer.

(Link)

Even if you ignore the IHS report, the Digi-Times report, the report this thread is based on, or Trev's leak, which has held up thus far, that's two of Nintendo's main suppliers telling their shareholders that their tech is going to be used in a major new device to be launched later this year, and in both cases Nintendo is by far the most likely customer. The evidence overwhelmingly supports Nintendo releasing at least one of their NX "family" by the end of 2016.
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At this point it's like religious people trying to suggest the universe is several thousand years old in the face of unsurmountable scientific evidence to the contrary.
 
blu

blu

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tr1p1ex said:
They didn't say the device was going to be launched later this year. They said these chip sales are going to hit the bottom line later this year. There is a difference.

Chip sales would come before console sales. I don't know what the lead time is. But probably at least months.
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A console whose parts are being mass-produced in H2 will definitely launch the same holiday season, unexpected delays non-withstanding.
 
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antonz

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Chips are produced and shipped for final install into consoles usually about 2 months before release. Nintendo got the first shipment of Wii CPU in September of 2006 in time for a November launch. No one wants stuff sitting around
 
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Kissenkopf

Banned
antonz said:
Chips are produced and shipped for final install into consoles usually about 2 months before release. Nintendo got the first shipment of Wii CPU in September of 2006 in time for a November launch. No one wants stuff sitting around
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Exactly this...no company on this planet let produce something one year before they ship it.
 
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Peru

Member
Neoxon said:
If Trev's source is to be believed (namely the schedule aspects), we may get the console first & the handheld later.
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Luigiv said:
No reason not to believe trevs source. The 3ds and Wii U release schedule stuff is too spot on to be fake. Well I guess he still could have pulled the Zelda NX part out of his ass, using the real leak as a means of legitimising his troll, but that seems unlikely.
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But Trev's source did not know anything about console, handheld, what hardware would come first. He/she was guessing purely based on release schedules for 3ds and Wii U software.
 
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Luigiv

Member
Peru said:
But Trev's source did not know anything about console, handheld, what hardware would come first. He/she was guessing purely based on release schedules for 3ds and Wii U software.
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That's true. Smart money's on a new home console coming out first but that's still speculation.

tr1p1ex said:
Chip sales would come before console sales. I don't know what the lead time is. But probably at least months.
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I believe the typical lead time is about 2 - 3 months (mind you I'm no expert but that's the number I've seen thrown around before). The second half of the year is 6 months. It's very easy to begin production and ship a system within the same half a year. Now if they were saying Q4 instead of H2, then I'd share your concern, but that's not the story here.
 
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Mihael Mello Keehl

Banned
IntelliHeath said:
Smash NX. I meant if Trev said that NX and Zelda NX are coming out in 2016 so I presume that their list is for 2016 only. *shrugs*
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I dont know if Smash NX will launch with the NX but im 109% sure Zelda is not the only Nintendo game launching with the console. The leaker just didnt know every single thing and thats fine.
 
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Raide

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Backwards compatibility with the Wii-U is one of the main things I want from NX. Also, not being forced to buy a title from the VC over and over and over. Hopefully the Account stuff sorts this.

Hell, letting me trade my Wii-U in for a console pre-order is probably what I will end up doing if it launches end of this year.
 
Bitch Pudding

Bitch Pudding

Member
Mihael Mello Keehl said:
I dont know if Smash NX will launch with the NX but im 109% sure Zelda is not the only Nintendo game launching with the console. The leaker just didnt know every single thing and thats fine.
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Of course not. But I hope they come up with more than just more iterations of games like M&S Olympic games, Mario Party, Nintendoland and so on. A new Mario Galaxy for example is what I am hoping for.

If Nintendo is able to deliver some cool games and get their shit together (with regards to online gaming and accounts, no obtruded gimmicks), I'll be more than happy to buy one on day 1.
 
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Ansatz

Member
Let's see here, the facts are:

Pokemon Sun/Moon (Q4 2016)
Zelda Wii U (Q4 2016)

Now let's see what some of Nintendo's teams have been up to:

EAD Tokyo
- Super Mario 3D World (Q4 2013)
- Captain Toad (Q4 2014)

Retro Studios
- Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (Q1 2014)

The thing is I can't see them release Zelda, Pokemon, 3D Mario and Retro's game all within a few weeks of each other. First of all if the next gen console and handheld are two separate platforms they will develop unique games for, Nintendo is already fucked so I'm disregarding that as a possibility.

Assuming NX console launches first in 2016 actually makes the most sense because then Pokemon has some time for itself and they can release 3D Mario alongside NX handheld in Q1 2017. All signs point to Zelda getting an NX port and perhaps the other big hitter for the launch is Retro's game. I don't know how else to fit all the details together.
 
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Neoxon

Junior Member
Ansatz said:
Let's see here, the facts are:

Pokemon Sun/Moon (Q4 2016)
Zelda Wii U (Q4 2016)

Now let's see what some of Nintendo's teams have been up to:

EAD Tokyo
- Super Mario 3D World (Q4 2013)
- Captain Toad (Q4 2014)

Retro Studios
- Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (Q1 2014)

The thing is I can't see them release Zelda, Pokemon, 3D Mario and Retro's game all within a few weeks of each other. First of all if the next gen console and handheld are two separate platforms they will develop unique games for, Nintendo is already fucked so I'm disregarding that as a possibility.

Assuming NX console launches first in 2016 actually makes the most sense because then Pokemon has some time for itself and they can release 3D Mario alongside NX handheld in Q1 2017. All signs point to Zelda getting an NX port and perhaps the other big hitter for the launch is Retro's game. I don't know how else to fit all the details together.
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Why list Sun/Moon? It's likely to stay 3DS-only.
 
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KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Neoxon said:
Why list Sun/Moon? It's likely to stay 3DS-only.
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That's the point he makes. Because Sun/Moon is most likely to be 3ds only it wouldn't make sense to release NX handheld this year and thus hurt Sun/Moon sales. Because Zelda is most likely to be cross gen it makes sense that the NX console will be release this year to ride it.
 
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Mokujin

Member
Raide said:
Backwards compatibility with the Wii-U is one of the main things I want from NX. Also, not being forced to buy a title from the VC over and over and over. Hopefully the Account stuff sorts this.

Hell, letting me trade my Wii-U in for a console pre-order is probably what I will end up doing if it launches end of this year.
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As much as I love backwards compatibility I think its time Nintendo gets rid of GC hardware legacy, it's causing more harm than good atm.
 
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whipihguh

Banned
KingSnake said:
That's the point he makes. Because Sun/Moon is most likely to be 3ds only it wouldn't make sense to release NX handheld this year and thus hurt Sun/Moon sales. Because Zelda is most likely to be cross gen it makes sense that the NX console will be release this year to ride it.
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Black 2 and White 2 were released about a year into the 3DS's lifespan, though. Heck, Black/White was released in the same month as 3DS's launch internationally. It's less telling of a 2017 NX handheld release and more likely that Game Freak will just release games for a new handheld whenever they feel like it. They clearly aren't pressured much into assisting handheld launches, otherwise Black/White wouldn't have been on DS, or at least not exclusively.
 
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Hero of Legend

Member
Mokujin said:
As much as I love backwards compatibility I think its time Nintendo gets rid of GC hardware legacy, it's causing more harm than good atm.
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Nintendo needs to get rid of GameCube in favor of GCN! ;)

But seriously, I agree, it is time to let it go.

We now seem to be in an era where BC seems to hold back new hardware more than benefit it I feel. Nintendo can just do it via emulation ala VC. But the hardware directly will just do nothing but hold back the NX. Whether it's in price, specs, etc.

Nintendo would far more benefit with Definitive Edition ports. It's worked for Sony and MS, there's a market for them, it adds to the portfolio, it's a much better idea than BC.
 
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