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10 Questions And Answers About The Final Fantasy VII Remake
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NoctisVsStar
Member
there's actually a bar, so you just cant smash attack. There's a cooling period.
well, things have changed... but just rethinking this.... ff6 came out in 94, 3 years later ff7 came out.
you couldnt tell that those two games had anything related... they were separate dimensions.
now all games look the same despite the fact that they have been doing bad in development hell for 10 years.
i actually dont want the remake since it wont do justice to the original. my bigger problem are fans who are simply throwing money at the devs instead of punishing bad devs for shitting out bad remakes/remasters.
the remaster of ff10/x-2 was a joke but i know tons of fans who were happy to buy them for 50bucks.
i wonder how they want to split ff7.
will there be separate discs/retail/releases?
how much money for each part of the game?
will there be a collection or the full game on one disc one day?
flaxknuckles
Member
I loved the original and I'm hyped for this. You people act like FFVII is going to disappear into thin air when the remake comes out. No one is taking anything from you.
Loved the ffx remaster, only paid $30 for what amounts to two full, remastered games. I should also note that I never got the chance to play them before, so it was well worth the price in my opinion.
Can't wait for this, and will gladly shell put for an HD rebuilding of the the world of ff7, that alone is worth it to me.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Whatever they do with the battle system, it would be an upgrade to the original FF7! The only psx mainline FF game where the battle system wasn't a total mess is FF9. Both FF7 and FF8 were really unbalanced and had weird design descisions (draw system of FF8... lol). This resulted in OP characters where you only needed to mash X 90% of the game for normal attacks and the other 10% for limitbreaks, summons and the occasional heal.
I've been playing DMC games for 15 years and NG for 12, in addition to games like God Hand, Bayonetta and Vanquish. Doesn't look like the tightest in the slightest.
There are also turn-based games with more impressive combat systems, like Grandia 3.
RevolverRoden
Member
wat
So its like half turned based half action? Sounds dumb. Just make it full action KH style
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Do you even know what the combat system is?
TheGreatDirector
Banned
The bar is actually filling up when you're attacking, not decreasing. People have already speculated that filling it up allows you to unleash a special attack, not necessarily a Limit Break though.
Robdraggoo
Member
With squares track record. I gave hard time believing this will be finished this console gen. Scratch that. I have hard time believing this will start this gen.
But im hoping
But im hoping
cosmicblizzard
Banned
It looks exactly like what I don't want Final Fantasy to be. Type 0, XV Platinum Demo and Dissidia have all told me the people involved are trash at making action games.
I used to think a VII remake was safe at least because, you know, it's a game that exists already. But hey, I guess people that hated the original are happy at least :/
I wonder if this "people who like the remake must hate the original, how ridiculous, que injustica" line of thinking will ever die. The refusal to see the millions of acres of space to both appreciate the original and appreciate the need for changes is amazing.
In terms of mechanics, 6 and 7 are two of the most similar FF games.
Pinko Marx
Banned
The comparison to Dissidia is interesting. I wonder if air combat will be a thing in the remake.
Who said anything about something being taken? I've just noticed how folks get strangely down on the original in order to prop the remake up. The other threads we've had here about this game were odd to read because of it.
illmatic22
Banned
I need this badly.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
You're absolutely right in that it's an inflammatory mindset, but to say it's not out there is false. The "turn-based is outdated" mindset exists more among non-fans, but it has no basis in reality beyond the genre frontrunner being more reluctant to make them "just because".
And I say this in all these threads but "a need for update" is not the same as "a need for change". Shifting genres is not a necessary change, it's a divisive one. There's still loads you can do within the confines of semi-traditional ATB, and to say people don't have the right to be upset over Square abandoning it is similarly dumb.
Hate is strong word. More like certain people feel that older combat systems have aged poorly when it comes to RPGs.
Some people just do not prefer the move towards action RPGs in game series that have predominantly been turn-based or ATB. As well, some don't see the change in combat as "need" for the series but as a way to make it more stylish and flashy while removing substance and depth. Personally, I would have preferred something closer to ATB than what we are getting, but old beggars can't be choosers when it comes to FF anymore.
Yes, there are always the older titles to go back to and other RPGs that can better iterate on more "classic" combat systems like SMT and Persona.
mrhyderager
Member
My first Final Fantasy game was VI, and like a lot of people hold VII in the highest regards as far as video games in general - not just RPGs.
To say that I or others hated the original because we think the remake is treading incredible ground ignores all subjectivity in enjoyment. It's another way to experience this incredible game, in gorgeous HD.
To be fair, I don't think any of us are even remotely aware of how impressive the combat system is/could be. We probably won't see the first portion of the game released for 2-3 years.
From a pure nostalgia point of view, there isn't much that's tighter than seeing Cloud in full HD kicking ass in real time. I can't wait to play this game, regardless of the detractors.
Are they going for an iffy pseudo-action system again? why?
Seriously,draw on KH for the battle system.Maybe make it more strategic,refine it to fit FF7 but stop beating around the bush.
The battle system in XV is really awkward because of this hesitation.It doesnt know whether its an action system or quasi turnbased...just bleh.
Seriously,draw on KH for the battle system.Maybe make it more strategic,refine it to fit FF7 but stop beating around the bush.
The battle system in XV is really awkward because of this hesitation.It doesnt know whether its an action system or quasi turnbased...just bleh.
Problem I have with the game being split into three or more parts would be the disconnect between character progress each game.
Just look at the final fantasy 13 games, none of the gameplay carries over very well between games. Everything is a fresh start, the systems change between games, each one very much it is it's own thing.
Another example would be mass effect. None of the three games feel the same and progress between them does not always reflect the gameplay choices you made in the previous title.
I don't want to see it end up where the only title worth playing is Final Fantasy 7R part 2 of 3.
Just look at the final fantasy 13 games, none of the gameplay carries over very well between games. Everything is a fresh start, the systems change between games, each one very much it is it's own thing.
Another example would be mass effect. None of the three games feel the same and progress between them does not always reflect the gameplay choices you made in the previous title.
I don't want to see it end up where the only title worth playing is Final Fantasy 7R part 2 of 3.
KZXcellent
Member
Well XIII never felt like it NEEDED a sequel. XIII-2 gave us the dumbest reasoning for the story continuing. Given this is set up to be multiple games and is also being worked on by CyberConnect2 (The devs behind .HACK which had a main story encompassing 4 games that kept your character progression throughout) I feel like character progression and gameplay should stay the same throughout.
SatoAilDarko
Member
There's going to be at least 4 parts.
By not day anything a comparing the game content to one part of XIII it gives the appearance of a trilogy.
Also the smart thing to do would be to finish almost everything before releasing the first part otherwise it could take over half a decade to the tell the story of one game.
By not day anything a comparing the game content to one part of XIII it gives the appearance of a trilogy.
Also the smart thing to do would be to finish almost everything before releasing the first part otherwise it could take over half a decade to the tell the story of one game.
badcrumble
Member
Yeah, agreed that the in-between approach hurts the game design, though there's definitely some neat stuff you can pull off in FFXV.
The problem is that it's hard to do fully action-based combat AND have a full diversity of abilities in the moveset.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The idea of a developer giving their pure vision without feedback is kind of a myth these days. Even if they didn't do a big community outreach program, they'd do play testing, take surveys, etc.
Actually, with the scale of games today, many game developers don't even know what will be fun until they have it in front of people and see what works. Reaching out to the community might actually help them more than its "helping us" by feeling we have input...
Septimus Prime
Member
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Will wait for the FF7R collection in 2025
potatohead
Member
Please don't make the game play like shit.
And by shit I mean slow and unresponsive.
And by shit I mean slow and unresponsive.
I should probably withold judgement on XV's system...
Maaaaaaybbbeee it will be successsful and fun in the final game ? maaaaaaybbbbee hopefully.
Matrix XII
Member
I wonder when this will come out.
Seems like it will be forever. That's why I'm not really paying much attention to it yet.
It will just hurt more knowing it's going to be so far away.
Seems like it will be forever. That's why I'm not really paying much attention to it yet.
It will just hurt more knowing it's going to be so far away.
Sure, but i hope that they don't go around changing everything on the fly just because there are a section of people raising a stink about whatever. They are already at a point where this is a completely different thing from FF7 besides the basic story and base characters. They are really coming at it as a new FF project inspired by the original FF7, and nostalgia really has no part in it, despite ironically the nostalgia aspect of having this project floated in the first place.
KZXcellent
Member
I agree. Personally even though I'm very excited for XV and have been for 10 years I still found the demo to be disappointing and lacking in the combat department. I mean, they decided to hide the shuriken and shield weapons instead of just giving them to you when it's time to play as Adult!Noctis. I'm gonna reserve judgment until the game comes out and we have a larger variety of weapons and we have our full party of four to perform combat with.
Yeah, I'm not even expecting FFXVI to be announced for awhile at this point. VIIR is the next big Final Fantasy game and I don't think we'll see the next big mainline until they're done with one of their big titles like VIIR or KH3.
crazygambit
Member
The fighting system was the worst thing about the game. Outside of bosses it basically boils down to leaving X pressed to spam attack all the time. The materia system was nice, but the actual fighting was terribly boring.
Plus outside of Limits all characters were pretty much the same, unlike IX or X when each character had meaningful strengths and weaknesses.
If they can make fighting regular mobs fun and make the characters more distinctive, it would certainly be a welcome improvement in my book.
What??? See my above post.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
So rebalance it, add fun functions like the brave and default system/attack interrupting/light positioning elements/etc. Don't change it to a bizarre amalgam of Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.
Its being made(atleast partially) by CC2 and the lead heads the original FF7(Nomura, Nojima, Kitase ect). Its not being made by the FF13 team themselves, Kitase references 13 as a series because he was the producer of FF13, like he is with basically every FF game
Perfect Cha0s
Member
I'm not sure we read the same interview.
sixteen-bit
Member
How fuckin terrifying will the optional Weapon bosses be in this game?
Meesh
Member
So Aeris living, is confirmed? For real?
I remember the effort I put into grinding for her limits only to have it fall to pieces... That's why her death had a two pronged effect on me, lost time and effort investing energy into a character I can't use, and emotionally I was pretty shocked when the flower girl I enjoyed using was pushing up her own. I remember falling for some dumb lie about an in game trick to get her back...put hours into that too, just to be disappointed all over again. Bringing her back is a great move and I'll gladly play 7R just for that alone
I remember the effort I put into grinding for her limits only to have it fall to pieces... That's why her death had a two pronged effect on me, lost time and effort investing energy into a character I can't use, and emotionally I was pretty shocked when the flower girl I enjoyed using was pushing up her own. I remember falling for some dumb lie about an in game trick to get her back...put hours into that too, just to be disappointed all over again. Bringing her back is a great move and I'll gladly play 7R just for that alone
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Will Sephiroth still be the main villain? If yes, why havent we seen anything of him yet, he is as iconic for this game as Cloud and Aerith are.
So Aeris living, is confirmed? For real?
I remember the effort I put into grinding for her limits only to have it fall to pieces... That's why her death had a two pronged effect on me, lost time and effort investing energy into a character I can't use, and emotionally I was pretty shocked when the flower girl I enjoyed using was pushing up her own. I remember falling for some dumb lie about an in game trick to get her back...put hours into that too, just to be disappointed all over again. Bringing her back is a great move and I'll gladly play 7R just for that alone
Um...no?
We haven't seen anyone yet besides the opening scenes.
That is Kitase in reference to SE in general, not the team. He is the one who is in charge of overall production of these titles
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
So Aeris living, is confirmed? For real?
I remember the effort I put into grinding for her limits only to have it fall to pieces... That's why her death had a two pronged effect on me, lost time and effort investing energy into a character I can't use, and emotionally I was pretty shocked when the flower girl I enjoyed using was pushing up her own. I remember falling for some dumb lie about an in game trick to get her back...put hours into that too, just to be disappointed all over again. Bringing her back is a great move and I'll gladly play 7R just for that alone
You are so gullible.
Meesh
Member
Damn it!! Sad but true.