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[louiedog]

That's actually one of the biggest strengths of the controller.

Agreed. I have good batteries for a range of devices in my home as well as a good battery charger. Why would I want one built in?

I never have to have my controller plugged in or worry about replacing the one battery when it goes bad. If that's the route a person wants to take they should buy a battery pack. They're available.

 

[Dabanton]

Agreed. I have good batteries for a range of devices in my home as well as a good battery charger. Why would I want one built in?

I never have to have my controller plugged in or worry about replacing the one battery when it goes bad. If that's the route a person wants to take they should buy a battery pack. They're available.

Agree. I have a official X1 rechargeable battery pack. But I like that when that goes bad, I can use batteries or buy another battery pack.

My PS controller kept losing it's charge so had to be left plugged in. Not really ideal.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

symmetrical is better haters gonna hate

Opinions.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Oh let's not play these games. People tried it in the Nintendo threads.

If we want to go deeper, one could say Sony forced MSFT in the console business when they stopped the Web TV deal they both had, and focused on the PS2... getting even closer to the 'Center of the Living Room' Trojan Horse, than MSFT was at the time.

And the Kezen comment is indeed disingenuous. Company's innovate or refine other's ideas all the time. It's a lame argument.

Not sure why you're playing the Sony Too card. I never said Sony or Nintendo don't lead or innovate.

I simply scoffed at the idea that Microsoft don't. When they clearly do, even if it's seen as bad. Which is why I listed both DRM and Kinect.

 

[Falchion]

Huh could be cool, I definitely love my Elite.

 

[Luckydog]

Opinions.

Symmetrical sucks.

 

[shoreu]

Symmetrical sucks.

Fact.

 

[Dreadnought]

I hope they get rid of the asymmetrical sticks. I hate that aspect of the Xbox controllers.

Traitor!

 

[Luckydog]

no touchpad no sale

I know I have gotten a ton of use out of my PS4 touchpads. /s

 

[rokkerkory]

Interesting they just made small improvements last year to the controller right? The standard one.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Maybe finally getting rid of the stupid AA batteries

Found the person who's never known the glory of eneloops. Unless you've only ever used PS3 and 4 controllers then you don't know any better.

 

[PanicFreak]

Found the person who's never known the glory of eneloops. Unless you've only ever used PS3 and 4 controllers then you don't know any better.

This. Being able to use Eneloop batteries is a huge plus for me. Yuge.

 

[stn]

Give me FULL backwards compatibility with 360 and I'll bite. Otherwise, they're not making me buy the Elite for a slight bump in resolution.

 

[Grisby]

It's time to bring back the true GOAT controller.

All hail the duke.

 

[Abdiel]

Fact.

Asymmetric sticks are the most uncomfortable things in the world for me to use while gaming. Absolutely can't deal with them for any length of time.

So... Opinions!

 

[MaulerX]

Give me FULL backwards compatibility with 360 and I'll bite. Otherwise, they're not making me buy the Elite for a slight bump in resolution.

I was thinking, after 6 years, what are the chances that they further shrunk the 360's Valhalla chip from 45 nm? Include that sucker in the XB1s for full BC and have it assist with some Rift support. Including the chip in the XB1s will be cheaper than producing whole 360 consoles (which they ended).

 

[Andodalf]

I was thinking, after 6 years, what are the chances that they further shrunk the 360's Valhalla chip from 45 nm? Include that sucker in the XB1s for full BC and have it assist with some Rift support. Including the chip in the XB1s will be cheaper than producing whole 360 consoles (which they ended).

Would add to much cost, and more importantly, way too much die space. The yields would be trash.

 

[shoreu]

Asymmetric sticks are the most uncomfortable things in the world for me to use while gaming. Absolutely can't deal with them for any length of time.

So... Opinions!

Aye you keep playing and were going to have to fight bra.

 

[...Scatter...]

I was thinking, after 6 years, what are the chances that they further shrunk the 360's Valhalla chip from 45 nm? Include that sucker in the XB1s for full BC and have it assist with some Rift support. Including the chip in the XB1s will be cheaper than producing whole 360 consoles (which they ended).

Whatever they do they shouldn't sacrifice performance for backwards compatibility for 360. They already made that mistake by alloting resources to the Kinect.

 

[Ushay]

How many different controllers do they need?

Unlike the competition at least they make the changes requested/requested.

DS4 is in dire need of a refresh in materials and build quality.

 

[professor_t]

Don't even joke about that. Eneloops for life.

For fuck's sake, this. Why anyone would prefer the travesty of the built-in DS4 battery (or something of its ilk) is entirely incomprehensible.

Eneloops last about 10x as long (seriously) and, guess what, when they die you just pop in a new pair from the charger.

 

[Elixist]

interested to see what they come up with, hopefully it has buttons on the back. I'd like Sony Too! to try and iterate on their controller i like it, but it could be better.

Agreed on the AA issue, the DS4 battery is a joke. Eneloops are beast and when they run out of charge, bloop buy some new ones.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Whatever they do they shouldn't sacrifice performance for backwards compatibility for 360. They already made that mistake by alloting resources to the Kinect.

It's just a self contained emulator isn't it? Just a piece of software that launches? I don't see why they would have to permanently allocate any resources within the box to it.

 

[BleedOrange]

Elite will be the name for the new more powerful xbox. Makes sense. You technically not starting a new generation calling it that. Same as 4K

Agreed. The branding works. I'm expecting them to quietly stop manufacturing the Elite bundle and mentioning it and instead transition the Elite brand to mean 'upgraded'.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

For fuck's sake, this. Why anyone would prefer the travesty of the built-in DS4 battery (or something of its ilk) is entirely incomprehensible.

Eneloops last about 10x as long (seriously) and, guess what, when they die you just pop in a new pair from the charger.

At this point I'm convinced they're PlayStation only gamers that don't know any better.

I mean a built in battery means needing either buy a second controller so you don't have to wire your wireless controller while you play, or...wiring up your wireless controller while you play. Which defeats the purpose of a wireless controller.

You also run the (rare) risk of the battery completely dying which means replacing the entire thing.

Unless you're a person that doesn't care about treating your battery properly and just charging it after each session. But then you're just bringing about its death faster, which brings us back to scenario B.

There's pretty much no advantage to a built in battery.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

I don't want a new controller ms, i want a new powerful xbox.Kill the xbox one.

 

[impact]

It's time to bring back the true GOAT controller.

I wish I could use this on my PC

 

[MillionStabs]

And I just bought a Xbone controller...

 

[The Faceless Master]

hopefully they add a rechargeable battery like ... well, everything else...

 

[User 479360]

hopefully they add a rechargeable battery like ... well, everything else...

A year ago, I would have agreed with this 100%. However, Staples was clearing out batteries and chargers, and I managed to get a good Duracell charger with really good Duracell rechargeables for about $20-25.

The things work incredibly well. I've never had batteries last this long, AND they're rechargeable.

The Xbox One's battery pack was pretty good at first. I lost my first one, though. And, when I bought a second, it seemed to start acting up within a year.

 

[jroc74]

At this point I'm convinced they're PlayStation only gamers that don't know any better.

I mean a built in battery means needing either buy a second controller so you don't have to wire your wireless controller while you play, or...wiring up your wireless controller while you play. Which defeats the purpose of a wireless controller.

You also run the (rare) risk of the battery completely dying which means replacing the entire thing.

Unless you're a person that doesn't care about treating your battery properly and just charging it after each session. But then you're just bringing about its death faster, which brings us back to scenario B.

There's pretty much no advantage to a built in battery.

I used to by feel that way about PS3 controllers until I got rechargeable battery paks for the 360. Now overall I prefer buying rechargeable batteries vs having it built in. And you can use XBO controllers wired to the console with no batteries.

With my 360 I had maybe 8 rechargeable batteries, all ready to go because I constantly kept them charged up on a rotating cycle.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I wish I could use this on my PC

Well if you're willing to do a little work...

 

[MrCunningham]

Away with your girly hands.

Bring back the Duke.

I would love to see them bring back the Duke just for a limited run. I feel like Microsoft missed a golden opportunity with the The Master Chief Collection. I think they could've pulled on a lot of nostalgia strings with it.

 

[Andodalf]

Symmetrical makes no sense. They don't have symmetrical use, why would they be symmetrically positioned? Left stick is better positioned for up/down (ie, movement) and right stick for left/right (ie camera). I will say that symmetrical looks nicer, but that's all it has.

 

[tiredheadcrab]

I am betting we are going to see a big relaunch of the Xbox brand this E3. Similar to what Sony dos with the PS3 slim which was a great marketing campaign.

Perhaps there will be a slim version of the console available shortly after E3 and then the faster system this holiday. The person reports that there is something else they are working on however maybe he was referring to the slim redesign. We did see 2 wifi chips go through the fcc.

June 13th where are you!!!

 

[krang]

Symmetrical sticks? Built-in batteries?

What the fuck am I reading?

 

[User 479360]

I guess I should return my two Shadow controllers, even though they look nice.

 

[Vormund]

Can they put a Saturn d-pad on this one?

They really need to come out with accessories for the Elite controller, and a Saturn style dpad needs to be one of them. I do like the disc one you get with the Elite controller though.

 

[Kurt Angle]

I hope they get rid of the asymmetrical sticks. I hate that aspect of the Xbox controllers.

ah no

that's the main reason why it's the best controller

 

[GavinGT]

Symmetrical sticks? Built-in batteries?

What the fuck am I reading?

The ramblings of crazy people.

 

[IHaveIce]

I hope they get rid of the asymmetrical sticks. I hate that aspect of the Xbox controllers.

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[Geist-]

It's time to bring back the true GOAT controller.

I hated it when I was a kid because I had kid hands. Not sure how I'd like it today.

My Elite Controller is the best thing ever and I love it to death, so don't really care about any new controllers, but I am kind of hoping they do a hardware refresh like the PS4k, maybe with a console trade-in deal. The specs were bad when it was released, so maybe they can fix that ahead of the 8 year cycle.

I hope they get rid of the asymmetrical sticks. I hate that aspect of the Xbox controllers.

Where the fuck are all these asymmetrical haters coming from in an Xbox thread?

 

[Cpt Conifer]

Maybe the new controller will be attempt to offer some of the features of the Elite. I believe there's a fairly new Hori controller that uses small buttons underneath. I haven't had a chance to hold it, but it seems like it could be a feasible alternative to the Elite's paddles (and of course it costs roughly 1/3 of the price).

 

[The Silver]

It's time to bring back the true GOAT controller.

A controller and a deadly weapon for when your boy beats you in Madden all in one.

 

[nib95]

At this point I'm convinced they're PlayStation only gamers that don't know any better.

I mean a built in battery means needing either buy a second controller so you don't have to wire your wireless controller while you play, or...wiring up your wireless controller while you play. Which defeats the purpose of a wireless controller.

You also run the (rare) risk of the battery completely dying which means replacing the entire thing.

Unless you're a person that doesn't care about treating your battery properly and just charging it after each session. But then you're just bringing about its death faster, which brings us back to scenario B.

There's pretty much no advantage to a built in battery.

I get 10 hours of battery on my 20th Anniversary DS4, and it charges in like a few minutes. It's more than sufficient and I don't even notice the battery life because the few moments it's on charge, during updates or whatever is more than sufficient. The regular DS4's 6 hour batter or whatever, I agree can be a nuisance. With that said, Eneloops are still not only an inconvenience to charge, but they also cost extra money too. Not just the batteries themselves but the charger too. In the end despite owning Eneloops and a charging station, I still just ended up picking up the Play & Charge Kit for my Xbox One pad and Elite controller. It's just more convenient.

Microsoft should really be including the play & charge kit with every controller, or putting in rechargeable lithium ion batteries that have better battery life than the standard DS4, and can still be charged with a micro USB cable. Built in batteries are just much more convenient, especially when the battery life is decent. I much prefer just slotting in a cable for a few minutes (or just leaving it in at times), than having to take manually remove the cover, take the batteries out, stick them in a wall charger, and then stick the next batch of batteries back in. Even though you do it less often, it's more annoying.

 

[Night Angel]

I doubt we'll see a hardware upgrade aside from slimmer. Maybe they'll surprise us.

 

[krang]

I get 10 hours of battery on my 20th Anniversary DS4, and it charges in like a few minutes. It's more than sufficient and I don't even notice the battery life because the few moments it's on charge, during updates or whatever is more than sufficient. The regular DS4's 6 hour batter or whatever, I agree can be a nuisance. With that said, Eneloops are still not only an inconvenience to charge, but they also cost extra money too. Not just the batteries themselves but the charger too. In the end despite owning Eneloops and a charging station, I still just ended up picking up the Play & Charge Kit for my Xbox One pad and Elite controller. It's just more convenient.

Microsoft should really be including the play & charge kit with every controller, or putting in rechargeable lithium ion batteries that have better battery life than the standard DS4, and can still be charged with a micro USB cable. Built in batteries are just much more convenient, especially when the battery life is decent. I much prefer just slotting in a cable for a few minutes (or just leaving it in at times), than having to take manually remove the cover, take the batteries out, stick them in a wall charger, and then stick the next batch of batteries back in. Even though you do it less often, it's more annoying.

Can the DS4 be charged from a standard USB cable and plug? That was a major beef with my DS3, that it wouldn't charge off a phone charger and required me to plug it into my PS3 while it was turned on in order to charge. Unless I purchased a separate charging station.

 

[nib95]

Can the DS4 be charged from a standard USB cable and plug? That was a major beef with my DS3, that it wouldn't charge off a phone charger and required me to plug it into my PS3 while it was turned on in order to charge. Unless I purchased a separate charging station.

Yes it can. The console comes with the charging cable. Simple USB to Micro USB, same as the Xbox One Play and Charge Kit.

 

[GavinGT]

I get 10 hours of battery on my 20th Anniversary DS4, and it charges in like a few minutes. It's more than sufficient and I don't even notice the battery life because the few moments it's on charge, during updates or whatever is more than sufficient. The regular DS4's 6 hour batter or whatever, I agree can be a nuisance. With that said, Eneloops are still not only an inconvenience to charge, but they also cost extra money too. Not just the batteries themselves but the charger too. In the end despite owning Eneloops and a charging station, I still just ended up picking up the Play & Charge Kit for my Xbox One pad and Elite controller. It's just more convenient.

Microsoft should really be including the play & charge kit with every controller, or putting in rechargeable lithium ion batteries that have better battery life than the standard DS4, and can still be charged with a micro USB cable. Built in batteries are just much more convenient, especially when the battery life is decent. I much prefer just slotting in a cable for a few minutes (or just leaving it in at times), than having to take manually remove the cover, take the batteries out, stick them in a wall charger, and then stick the next batch of batteries back in. Even though you do it less often, it's more annoying.

Nah, I'd much rather switch out Eneloops every 30 hours than have to plug it in every 6 hours. Heck, even if the battery lives were comparable, I'd still rather have the freedom to remove the batteries and pop in new ones.

 

[ramparter]

I hope they get rid of the asymmetrical sticks. I hate that aspect of the Xbox controllers.

Lol what? It's one of the reasons I went for One and not PS4