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[Xenophage]

Can't sleep. Shoulder blade pain is unbearable. Just downed a bunch of ibuprofen and am sat here pressing hard against a heat pad.

I don't get why it doesn't seem to be getting better. I almost feel like I should just say fuck it, accept it's completely fucked and go back to lifting.

Damn man. I hope it gets better soon. Take it from someone who fucked himself up time and time again due to impatience, and wait for it to heal.

 

[Two Words]

Is it really that important that I track my calories/nutrition? This is what I'm eating daily, sometimes with some variance when necessary.

Breakfast- Eggs and a banana

Post workout- Creatine and whey protein shake

Lunch- Turkey sandwich with some pieces of colby jack cheese

Snack- Chocolate protein bar

Dinner- Chicken breast with veggies or chicken pot pie

Before Sleep- Casein protein shake


I'm trying to stuff myself with protein without packing on a ton of calories. How esential is it that I follow my carbs and fat intake as well? I feel like the last time I really tried to keep track of my nutrition, I just got sick of it.

 

[Cooter]

Tomorrow is my anniversary and not only am I getting whatever I want to eat, I am going IN on some ice cream later. Can't wait.

I'm expecting a 5lb increase

Of course I'm squatting right before

I feel like I'm reading my own posts sometimes when it comes to you.

 

[Xenophage]

Is it really that important that I track my calories/nutrition? This is what I'm eating daily, sometimes with some variance when necessary.

Breakfast- Eggs and a banana

Post workout- Creatine and whey protein shake

Lunch- Turkey sandwich with some pieces of colby jack cheese

Snack- Chocolate protein bar

Dinner- Chicken breast with veggies or chicken pot pie

Before Sleep- Casein protein shake


I'm trying to stuff myself with protein without packing on a ton of calories. How esential is it that I follow my carbs and fat intake as well? I feel like the last time I really tried to keep track of my nutrition, I just got sick of it.

The same thing happened to me. I tried tracking my calories, and after a month, I just got sick of it. However, as you near your goals, you may just have to bite the bullet and start again, as you tend to get complacent, or hidden calories just slip in. Either way, progress stalls.

 

[Psychotext]

Marijuana and especially CBD would work wonders. Ibuprofen ain't got shit on some good indica with CBD drops.

If you need info, I am GAF's #1 expert (maybe the only) on marijuana/CBD in general.

Ha... being middle class and in my late thirties I wouldn't even begin to know where to get Marijuana. Nor do I know what CBD is. lol

 

[No Love]

Ha... being middle class and in my late thirties I wouldn't even begin to know where to get Marijuana. Nor do I know what CBD is. lol

What state are you in? If it's not a shitty one it should be easy to get medical access.

CBD is the cannabinoid in the plant that provides hugely effective pain relief but doesn't get you high, works really well for "deep" pain like you're experiencing. Nervous system pain, joint pain, socket pain, you name it, it works. They give high doses to cancer patients and those with seizures to stop/reduce seizure incidence. It works. Period.

 

[Szu]

What state are you in? If it's not a shitty one it should be easy to get medical access.

CBD is the cannabinoid in the plant that provides hugely effective pain relief but doesn't get you high, works really well for "deep" pain like you're experiencing. Nervous system pain, joint pain, socket pain, you name it, it works. They give high doses to cancer patients and those with seizures to stop/reduce seizure incidence. It works. Period.

The closet state to Pyscho is probably Maine. Him being in the UK and all.

 

[Szu]

Tomorrow is my anniversary and not only am I getting whatever I want to eat, I am going IN on some ice cream later. Can't wait.

I'm expecting a 5lb increase

Of course I'm squatting right before

Happy anniversary to you two!!!

You know, Sean, you got married about six months after I tied the knot too.

 

[Granadier]

The closet state to Pyscho is probably Maine. Him being in the UK and all.

Time for bulk shipments to Pyscho!

 

[No Love]

Time for bulk shipments to Pyscho!

UK care package inbound

 

[frontieruk]

Ha... being middle class and in my late thirties I wouldn't even begin to know where to get Marijuana. Nor do I know what CBD is. lol

Oh Marijuana is easy to find, trip to the valleys, look for a pub that looks like the The Queen Vic / The Rovers, preferably with youngsters hanging outside. Then look for the guy all the girls are flocking around.

 

[Jacksinthe]

Can't sleep. Shoulder blade pain is unbearable. Just downed a bunch of ibuprofen and am sat here pressing hard against a heat pad.

I don't get why it doesn't seem to be getting better. I almost feel like I should just say fuck it, accept it's completely fucked and go back to lifting.

I do this with my shoulder and hip but I don't think either are as bad as yours.

Are there any injections you can get? I'm usually not a fan of cortisone buy losing sleep is no bueno. Also, have you had a CT on your shoulder? I forget if you mentioned it.

 

[Carbonox]

90kg x 5 on Bench is now 92.5 x 4 as of last night, a new PB for me. Really good feeling to be able to make steady improvements.

 

[Psychotext]

Are there any injections you can get? I'm usually not a fan of cortisone buy losing sleep is no bueno. Also, have you had a CT on your shoulder? I forget if you mentioned it.

No, I went straight to physio, but I have private medical insurance and I'm very tempted to make use of it for this. I've never had an injury before that didn't feel like it was getting better once I started treatment.

 

[SeanR1221]

I feel like I'm reading my own posts sometimes when it comes to you.

It's that Cooterspiration. I will channel my inner cooter at the ice cream shop tonight.

Happy anniversary to you two!!!

You know, Sean, you got married about six months after I tied the knot too.

Thanks man! You've been married for a while right?

Is it really that important that I track my calories/nutrition? This is what I'm eating daily, sometimes with some variance when necessary.

Breakfast- Eggs and a banana

Post workout- Creatine and whey protein shake

Lunch- Turkey sandwich with some pieces of colby jack cheese

Snack- Chocolate protein bar

Dinner- Chicken breast with veggies or chicken pot pie

Before Sleep- Casein protein shake


I'm trying to stuff myself with protein without packing on a ton of calories. How esential is it that I follow my carbs and fat intake as well? I feel like the last time I really tried to keep track of my nutrition, I just got sick of it.

Id say very, at least initially.

Think of it this way, would you walk in the gym and just throw weights on without looking at the total weight?

I would track for at least a month and be 100% accurate with it so you get an idea of how much you're eating exactly on average. This includes weighing everything you eat in grams (cooking oils, vegetables, etc).

Eyeballing your day, I'm estimating 1600-1800 calories which isn't a lot for someone your height and weight.

 

[BumRush]

Happy anniversary Sean! Enjoy it!

 

[Jacksinthe]

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY SEAN!

No, I went straight to physio, but I have private medical insurance and I'm very tempted to make use of it for this. I've never had an injury before that didn't feel like it was getting better once I started treatment.

I would def have a CT. My shoulder has gotten much worse on my cut due to increased heavy bag work as part of my cardio but I still only wince. It's not bad enough to bother me when I sleep. I did have to switch incline press to dumbbells as I kept compensating with my left shoulder with the BB.

If you are in that much pain I would get an inside look. You're always on point so I'd hate to see you get permanently outed with a random rep

Shoulder pain is no joke when it comes to how it can affect your training in every way and it's been hell on you.

 

[Faiz]

Tomorrow is my anniversary and not only am I getting whatever I want to eat, I am going IN on some ice cream later. Can't wait.

I'm expecting a 5lb increase

Of course I'm squatting right before

Happy anniversary dude!

 

[BumRush]

We've got a steroids topic in OT folks.

 

[Faiz]

We've got a steroids topic in OT folks.

Avoiding like the plague.

 

[KillerBEA]

Avoiding like the plague.

Same

 

[TheFlow]

Is it really that important that I track my calories/nutrition? This is what I'm eating daily, sometimes with some variance when necessary.

Breakfast- Eggs and a banana

Post workout- Creatine and whey protein shake

Lunch- Turkey sandwich with some pieces of colby jack cheese

Snack- Chocolate protein bar

Dinner- Chicken breast with veggies or chicken pot pie

Before Sleep- Casein protein shake


I'm trying to stuff myself with protein without packing on a ton of calories. How esential is it that I follow my carbs and fat intake as well? I feel like the last time I really tried to keep track of my nutrition, I just got sick of it.

always track your protein and calories. No questions always!

if you are cutting track your carbs, sodium, and fat intake. basically track everything.

 

[Psychotext]

We've got a steroids topic in OT folks.

You know, the older and more fucked up I get, the more I think I'd consider chemical assistance. It's going to be hard as fuck getting my strength back after this most recent injury and it kinda pisses me off that it's possible to sit there on steroids doing nothing and still pack on more muscle than someone working natty.

=/

Definitely considering testosterone at some point in my 40s if nothing else.

 

[Jacksinthe]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

 

[Faiz]

Definitely considering testosterone at some point in my 40s if nothing else.

That's about where I am too. I'm turning 40 in a few months and always thought I was low t, anyway, even though I've never had levels checked. May inquire about it at my next physical, just to have an idea of where I am at least.

 

[bchamba]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

Half natty for life

 

[The Chef]

Cleans.
The more I do them the more I am kinda confused by them. Since there are so many variations of the move its hard to determine which day to actually put them in, or if I should even include them at all.

Doing a clean involves doing a front squat...so I guess you could put this on leg day.
Doing a power clean doesn't include the front squat...so that could possibly just go on a shoulder day?

Plus, in putting primary importance on body building over strength training I am wondering if they even belong in my weekly routine.

 

[FreddieQuell]

I added some chocolate PB2 to my chocolate peanut butter whey this morning. I'm definitely a fan. Added about 25 calories but it tasted way better, really got rid of the aftertaste.

 

[KillerBEA]

Cleans.
The more I do them the more I am kinda confused by them. Since there are so many variations of the move its hard to determine which day to actually put them in, or if I should even include them at all.

Doing a clean involves doing a front squat...so I guess you could put this on leg day.
Doing a power clean doesn't include the front squat...so that could possibly just go on a shoulder day?

Plus, in putting primary importance on body building over strength training I am wondering if they even belong in my weekly routine.

Can't comment on including in your routine but I include Power Cleans on leg day since you use hips, hamstrings, glutes etc to explode the weight up.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

What if you're like 6'6"?

 

[Granadier]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

Ehhhhhhh
Height dependent.

 

[buy teh haloz]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

But if you're less than 200lbs you're not a real man.

Can't win

 

[KillerBEA]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

Shit I am creeping on 190 lbs right now, just 10 more lbs to go til I am no longer natty

 

[The Chef]

Can't comment on including in your routine but I include Power Cleans on leg day since you use hips, hamstrings, glutes etc to explode the weight up.

Yeah thats a good idea.
I love the amount of trap work it utilizes but I guess unless youre doing a clean and jerk they probably dont belong on a shoulder day.

 

[Granadier]

Hit 190lbs yesterday. Feels good to be putting on some muscle weight.

 

[Psychotext]

Physio session felt like it might have targetted the problem a little better today. I really hope it has. I just sort of keep wishing that there's a way it could be sort of... dislocated, then put back in place like it's supposed to be or something. I really wouldn't mind going through the agony to fix it... but alas, tis not the way.

 

[Two Words]

It's that Cooterspiration. I will channel my inner cooter at the ice cream shop tonight.



Thanks man! You've been married for a while right?



Id say very, at least initially.

Think of it this way, would you walk in the gym and just throw weights on without looking at the total weight?

I would track for at least a month and be 100% accurate with it so you get an idea of how much you're eating exactly on average. This includes weighing everything you eat in grams (cooking oils, vegetables, etc).

Eyeballing your day, I'm estimating 1600-1800 calories which isn't a lot for someone your height and weight.

You really think it's that low in calories? If so, then cutting calories would seem to be pretty easy, lol.

 

[Jacksinthe]

Half natty for life

WOOOOOOOO

What if you're like 6'6"?

Jack Skellington status!

Spoiler

I'll look like a pole at 200 at 6'3"

Ehhhhhhh
Height dependent.

Just letting you know what I heard!

But if you're less than 200lbs you're not a real man.

Can't win

CREATIIIINE!

Shit I am creeping on 190 lbs right now, just 10 more lbs to go til I am no longer natty

Switch food source to lawn clippings. I'd also start testing yourself for PEDs. Never can be too sure if you're a sleep-juicer.

 

[Granadier]

You really think it's that low in calories? If so, then cutting calories would seem to be pretty easy, lol.

Yes, that's quite low.

 

[crpav]

I(173 pounds) did 3 push ups with 143 pounds on my back last night......my wife was on my back and I said "let's see if I can do push ups with you on my back again. It's been a while. She started counting calories this Christmas and lost quite a bit after battling it with her grave's disease and since our son was born.

Anyway she had me stop before I injured myself. Not bad seeing I did heavy chest and triceps in the morning.

 

[KillerBEA]

Switch food source to lawn clippings. I'd also start testing yourself for PEDs. Never can be too sure if you're a sleep-juicer.

I guess I better start finding new ways to prepare grass clippings So far raw, and blended come to mind.

 

[Jacksinthe]

I guess I better start finding new ways to prepare grass clippings So far raw, and blended come to mind.

I set them ablaze and consume the ashes.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

PSA:

If you are over 200lbs you are not natty.

Just making sure you all got that.

Nobody said that.

 

[Jacksinthe]

Nobody said that.

220, my bad. He mentioned 200 as suspect.

That makes the statement that much more believable! /s

I'll wind up looking rail thin at 200. To flatly label anyone as a gearhead by weight is a gross oversimplification and I was playing on that.

 

[Megalosaro]

A while ago I lost about 125 lb. I've generally maintained it for about a year.

Problem is I have a shitload of loose skin on my gut and legs.

I don't want surgery. Anything I can do

 

[Psychotext]

Problem is I have a shitload of loose skin on my gut and legs.

I don't want surgery. Anything I can do

Sadly not.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

220, my bad. He mentioned 200 as suspect.

That makes the statement that much more believable! /s

I'll wind up looking rail thin at 200. To flatly label anyone as a gearhead by weight is a gross oversimplification and I was playing on that.

200 lbs at 5-6 body fat would be approaching Ulisses Jr. stats.

 

[Omegasquash]

You know you done fucked up when you struggle to eat an extra meal at night and your daily caloric intake is still somewhere around 2300.

Working from home today as I was up late in the ER last night (100% all good now), cooking a mountain of brown rice, eyeing potatoes. FML.

 

[PartlyCloudlike]

Is white rice a good enough carb source for building muscle, or do I need to incorporate sugars? I try to avoid sugar as much as possible because I have a sweet tooth that will get out of control at times. My diet these days mostly consists of ground turkey, ground pork, chicken, canned sardines and tuna, green leafy green vegetables, potatoes/carrots, and white rice.

 

[Psychotext]

Aye, rice is fine.