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Fitness |OT9|...You looked better before
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Jacksinthe
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That's true, but the programming can easily be inititated based on a calculated value. Read more like TW was asking about actually performing 1RMs and has apparently already tried to do so, when he probably shouldn't be at this point.
mdsfx
Member
Lol you did it. You really did it. The 50-post, top of page contender to beat is right here.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Man. Took some vid to watch form on Arnold Press since it's been a few. Caught my reflection in the mirror on a playback mid rep...
I really hope that's not what my O face looks like :O
I really hope that's not what my O face looks like :O
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Username1198
Member
I have a question about the overhead press. I'm following the 5x5 stronglifts guide, and it says to have your feet at shoulder width, my question is;
Can I keep one foot in front and he other behind me for stability purpose? Or is that cheating?
Can I keep one foot in front and he other behind me for stability purpose? Or is that cheating?
mdsfx
Member
I don't have an answer for this, but I do feel like that would put an asymmetric load on my lower back.
Psychotext
Member
I can't think why you'd need to increase stability that way, unless you have seriously tiny feet. That, or you're swinging the bar or something crazy.
I'm not sure if it's cheating per se, but it does put uneven pressure on your back, core and pelvis.
Jacksinthe
Banned
More than likely bar path is not straight. Take a video from the side and take a look. You should be able to draw a straight line from rest to full extension of the barbell.
That's about all I can think of why you'd need front to back stability. Your feet, legs, glutes, back and core should be plenty to stabilize the weight. If not, it's too much weight for the rep range, IMO.
Sounds like something else is going on if stability is an issue. I would look at:
1) bar path - pushing out too far from your body creates a moment arm and shifts the center of mass too far forward making it difficult for people to maintain balance.
2) overall tightness - it's a compound lift and everything needs to be tight. Deep breath into your stomach, brace, engage lats, squeeze glutes, etc.
ShadowgeistX
Member
You can, my brother does them that way and I doubt it makes THAT much difference in the end (in terms of it being a shoulder lift).
However, I agree with the two below. There shouldn't be much of a stability problem if you're doing it right. Note the part about overall tightness.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Negative. I consider it definitely a full body lift. You wouldn't bench with one foot on the bench and the other on the floor.
Scissor legs will definitely offset core engagement.
I'd hate to see an x-ray of his spine during this:
I know olympic lifts setup the bar this way but i would not recommend keeping it static throughout movements.
Username1198
Member
First, thank you so much for the replies! You guys are awesome and I'm glad I found this thread.
Yes! Now that I've replayed the workout in my head, I beleive my elbows were flaring out, causing me to lose my balance a bit from the swaying. I've been practicing in the mirror and have focused on keeping my elbows on a straight path up and down like its on a rail.
This is also my second time ever doing the overhead press, and it is definetly a little awkward to do but I'll just keep practicing and focusing on keeping my elbows straight. I'll also lessen the weight by 5 lbs.
So, following the stronglifts guide, cardio isn't really a big deal. Does that sound right to you guys? Before this program, I used to lift for an hour then cardio from forty five minutes to an hour. The workout plan was basically random isolation exercises.
Now I'm doing the stronglifts and it feels weird not to do cardio. Anyone with any experience with the program have any other advice?
As far as nutrition, I just drink water, try to eat my weight in protein, I eat pretty heathy, vegetables, fruit, no sugar. I also smoke a lot of weed, not sure if that's a huge impact on weight training. Sorry for the ramble I'm kinda high now.
Thanks again for the replies!
Yes! Now that I've replayed the workout in my head, I beleive my elbows were flaring out, causing me to lose my balance a bit from the swaying. I've been practicing in the mirror and have focused on keeping my elbows on a straight path up and down like its on a rail.
This is also my second time ever doing the overhead press, and it is definetly a little awkward to do but I'll just keep practicing and focusing on keeping my elbows straight. I'll also lessen the weight by 5 lbs.
So, following the stronglifts guide, cardio isn't really a big deal. Does that sound right to you guys? Before this program, I used to lift for an hour then cardio from forty five minutes to an hour. The workout plan was basically random isolation exercises.
Now I'm doing the stronglifts and it feels weird not to do cardio. Anyone with any experience with the program have any other advice?
As far as nutrition, I just drink water, try to eat my weight in protein, I eat pretty heathy, vegetables, fruit, no sugar. I also smoke a lot of weed, not sure if that's a huge impact on weight training. Sorry for the ramble I'm kinda high now.
Thanks again for the replies!
ShadowgeistX
Member
Didn't really disagree with you there. Just saying that shoulder engagement wouldn't necessarily be all that different, and that a few people do it without major issues.
Overall message was more like, just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Dunno if this is a problem with you, but I think the most unstable part of OHP is when you have your head out of the bar path so you don't clock yourself. As soon as it's past where your head is just make sure you line your body up under the bar so you're at your strongest. Like I said, I've seen it with a couple people at the gym but I don't know if it applies to you.
FreddieQuell
Member
Nice dude, what did you start at?
To the overhead press discussion above, I've started to feel a lot better with the movement lately. I try to focus on 3 things now; squeezing my ass, clamping down with my core, and leaning back before the lift with a quick straightening when the bar gets past my face. Feels like the bar flies up now.
Time to bulk up, way too skinny. Get some creamy Vitamin D milk, eat a lot, and lift heavy and post transformation pics. At that weight and height adding muscle and some bulk would be pretty damn awesome in terms of how quick results would show.
Jacksinthe
Banned
I get you, but the full body is involved for a reason, otherwise we wouldn't be standing to do them if it was only about shoulder engagement. The end result is not really the same, IMO.
Think of it like working out on nothing but machines - you're missing all of the muscles that get worked for stability.
Not to mention using an awkward stance can easily lead to a shift here and there during a movement causing injury. It just takes 1 bad rep and you're done lifting for a long time. One small hip tweak mid-push and poof.
Plenty of times I wasn't feeling it and lowered the weight just a touch to ensure I wasn't grunting out reps with bad form so I can both hit my rep targets and lift without injury.
Injuries suck
I'll gladly skip my ego so I don't hurt myself. The only one I'm competing with is me.185 but I've been higher before.
Not yet. I've still got too much hanging fat on me to bulk. I still feel like I look terrible, I'm a long way from skinny. Once I'm satisfied with my fat levels I'll bulk hard.
About my weight and how it seems like I want it to be too low for my body size - I've been down this road before on FitGAF. I bulked once, my muscles got bigger, I got stronger, but I'm just really unhappy about fat gains. I would much rather be skinny and frail first. I'm trying to reset my body to a lower fat starting point. My brother is taller than me, weaker than me, and weighs much more, yet he's got a perfectly flat stomach. One of my best friends is the same height as me, weighs more than me, and has never lifted or trained in his life, and he has a perfectly flat stomach. That's what I'm after. Not strength, not size. When I sit down all kinds of shit hangs off my belly and it makes me want to cry. Every other part of me is legitimately skinny, as you could guess. My shoulders, arms, upper back, and legs are all well-defined and flab free. I feel as if all the fat on my body is wrapped around my waist and I'd have to do ridiculous, drastic weight loss to get rid of it. If I could just take a knife and cut it off, I would, and then I'd bulk. It drives me absolutely insane. There's something wrong with my body.
Psychotext
Member
Just unlucky. Trust me, it could be worse, you could have loose skin and stretch marks.
...and there's always lipo as a reset button for you.
...and there's always lipo as a reset button for you.
Just unlucky. Trust me, it could be worse, you could have loose skin and stretch marks.
...and there's always lipo as a reset button for you.
I do have stretch marks, 3-4 in a row just past my hips on both sides. I've never been very heavy though, no clue when I got them.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Glad to see you're feeling better, bud.Hit weights for the first time in three weeks. Everything fells fine. Still easing into it, but at least my body is healing.
The tightness has subsided too. I got a lot of flexibity back. With my leg extended on the floor, I can almost touch my toes....with my elbow.
Psychotext
Member
4 weeks today since my last session. Really hope I can turn a corner soon.Hit weights for the first time in three weeks. Everything fells fine. Still easing into it, but at least my body is healing.
The tightness has subsided too. I got a lot of flexibity back. With my leg extended on the floor, I can almost touch my toes....with my elbow.
Arrowgigantic
Member
Congrats on attaining Perfect Bees.
Hit weights for the first time in three weeks. Everything fells fine. Still easing into it, but at least my body is healing.
The tightness has subsided too. I got a lot of flexibity back. With my leg extended on the floor, I can almost touch my toes....with my elbow.
Good to hear. Lol.
Don't pick yourself apart about it. Being your own worst critic also means you'll pick yourself apart for little BS. Just be happy with the progress you've made and don't sweat the stomach fat, it'll be gone eventually.
Irobot82
Member
Hit weights for the first time in three weeks. Everything fells fine. Still easing into it, but at least my body is healing.
The tightness has subsided too. I got a lot of flexibity back. With my leg extended on the floor, I can almost touch my toes....with my elbow.
Nice! Time to re represent the right arm of fitgaf man
Currently many users are wondering who fitgaf man is
Essentially, fitgaf man is the Voltron of fitness.
And I've probably alienated the young people again.
Well, look at it this way. Even if it is a placebo effect, it working for you. Just keep on trucking.
FallingEdge
Member
Hit weights for the first time in three weeks. Everything fells fine. Still easing into it, but at least my body is healing.
The tightness has subsided too. I got a lot of flexibity back. With my leg extended on the floor, I can almost touch my toes....with my elbow.
I am so damn tight, I need to do more stretches. I would just rather lift tho.
can't help it.
MentallyCritical
Member
Finally got my rower, any good technique and breakdown videos/text would be greatly appreciated.
My little brother's been responding great to my programming. He's scheduled next week to deadlift 545 for a 2x2 and then an amrap. Back in early January his max was 545. Here's him doing a smooth triple yesterday with 520 at a little over 190 lbs bodyweight:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF3p7Ztofnf/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF3p7Ztofnf/
nice man, whats with the salty comments on the instagram post?!
That's a friend of ours just messing around lol
Omegasquash
Member
Creatine takes a little bit to kick in, but if you're loading it's already helping out (I think). And it could be a case of the beginner gains, but that's not a bad thing. Keep doing what you're doing until progress levels off. Revel in your gains.
Shy Fingers
Banned
I'm riding high on beginner gains. I know it will end eventually, but I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts
Jacksinthe
Banned
Loading is pretty much BS. Creatine isn't something noticed it's first week, either. Takes saturation so 4-6 weeks is par for the course - loading will just lead to you pissing (literally) money away.
Also, Creatine doesn't work for everyone which is why it's generally not recommended for beginners since you won't know if the Creatine is working or its just noob gains. You'll be throwing money away if you are a non-responder as it will be hard to tell early on.
I waited about 6 months until I was deep in a groove with diet and program so I can monitor better.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Niiice.
I saw my bicep vein pop the other day, one on my chest and right shoulder.
For a split second under load!