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Gorlak

Banned
Cute.

VOTE: Never Forever

The thing about NF is this post No Kyan ain't suspicious, look at MattyG and Zeemumu...

I don't know.. trying to steer discussion away from Kyan. Retroid played an all around odd game before he vanished into nothingness.

But than again the late unjustified vote on me D4 speaks against scummieness on his part. D4 points pretty much to either you or nin being scum. I can see nin as scum with very huge balls to play like he did. Fake claiming the whole game, I'd think his partners would've stopped him.

So it has to be you LP.
 

Gorlak

Banned
And Gorlak, you always scum read me. Harry Potter, anyone? Metal Gear seemed like so long ago. :p

Walk down memory lane:
HP was a very different story, I didn't care about your alignment back then, I was a neutral troublemaker trying to divide town and keep scum off my back. And you even admitted to have played suspicious on purpose. Yeah, I've trouble reading you, certainly because you're a great coaster and avoid attention. Your play is all the same independent from alignment. In Gods we were both town and you waited with a defense far too long... Here you bring up all you've got earlier, like in mgs? Who cares, the past is the past.

Bit of metagaming here. I've read scum chats. When they get items they discuss what to do. I saw no reason to not disclose. We're still suspicious of timetokill? If we are, then sorry? He seems town to me. Really wish he tracked someone else last night though.

I don't exactly get what you are telling here? The day started with two votes on TTK in order to make him reveal his target and you ramble about no suspicion on him?
If he was scum they would've talked about it? You and him would've discussed it? The point stands you denied him the opportunity to confirm his power with a real result.
 
If we assume no goon, then TTK should've gotten a positive result when he tracked me? Hmm? Oh right we're in cahoots.

TTK seems like a good vote target tomorrow when we're in mylo. Might be worth keeping him alive even if he tracks scum.

Scum TTK:
Tonight: tracks Time/nin/Salva to NK target
Tomorrow: tries to get Time/nin/Salva voted out, someone drops a vote, scum hammers, gg

Town TTK lives:
Tonight: tracks Matty/NF, 50% chance of positive result to NK target
Tomorrow: tries to convince us to vote Matty/NF, town votes out scum
The next day: 4 left, 3 town vs 1 scum, town has to decide between TTK (he totally bussed) or Matty/NF

Town TTK dies:
Tomorrow: mylo, Matty/NF have to present convincing arguments for Time/nin/Salva.

Yeah TTK isn't dying tonight. I'd probably kill Gorlak myself.
 
Why not? Of the remaining town members, you're the least suspicious. I mean, yeah, leading this vote on me won't look good when I flip town, but scum helped you along so you can't be fully faulted for that.

Anyway, if I was actually scum, I played pretty terribly didn't I? Strange voting patterns, preemptive drink reveal, red flags out the wazoo. Amazing I lasted this long, really.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Who says you're in cahoots? Why would you vote him now? What are you doing?

Look, I'm sorry if you are town. I'm weighing all possibilities, if you can't see this I'm sorry.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Anyway, if I was actually scum, I played pretty terribly didn't I? Strange voting patterns, preemptive drink reveal, red flags out the wazoo. Amazing I lasted this long, really.

Totally terrible. No voiced suspicion against you up to today, not a single day with votes on you and a voting pattern that, compared to the rest of us, is as strange as everyone's. Many red flags, yeah. Not to forget you survived till D6 up to now?
 
Doesn't matter what I do. Matty and NF aren't removing their votes from me and I need 2 other people to vote for them.

I already did my garbage dump of info on the last page. You can ignore it now, but it'll have a different meaning when I flip town.

Like I said, it's fine if I die today. Just don't mess up tomorrow.
 

nin1000

Banned
Doesn't matter what I do. Matty and NF aren't removing their votes from me and I need 2 other people to vote for them.

I already did my garbage dump of info on the last page. You can ignore it now, but it'll have a different meaning when I flip town.

Like I said, it's fine if I die today. Just don't mess up tomorrow.


VOTE : Never Forever

lets see where this goes
 

Gorlak

Banned
Like I said, it's fine if I die today. Just don't mess up tomorrow.

Will do.

---
Anyway Timeaisis you actually said shit all about today's lynch.

You're reasoning was LP is the most suspicious because the other hadn't claimed at this point (which they did, all say they are ordinary town). So what is your opinion today? Who should we lynch and why?
 

Gorlak

Banned
Nin, what? How? Why?

You'd be okay to vote LP or TTK or NF all the same? Do you have ANY reasons for your behaviour? Like can you even try to post a carefully thought through explanation why one of these people should be lynched today?
 

nin1000

Banned
Nin, what? How? Why?

You'd be okay to vote LP or TTK or NF all the same? Do you have ANY reasons for your behaviour? Like can you even try to post a carefully thought through explanation why one of these people should be lynched today?

TTK > L_P > Gorlak
 

cabot

Member
VOTE TALLY:

timetokill (2)
gorlak 2629 (2634)
nin1000 2632 (2635)
lone_prodigy 2704
nin1000 2712

lone_prodigy (3)
timetokill 2647
never forever 2652
mattyg 2659 (2686)
nin1000 2671 (2676)
mattyg 2698

mattyg (0)
lone_prodigy 2655 (2699)

never forever (0)
lone_prodigy 2699 (2704)
nin1000 2710 (2712)

nin1000 (1)
gorlak 2716

5 votes for majoirty.


DAY 6 ENDS:
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MattyG

Banned
Doesn't matter what I do. Matty and NF aren't removing their votes from me and I need 2 other people to vote for them.

I already did my garbage dump of info on the last page. You can ignore it now, but it'll have a different meaning when I flip town.

Like I said, it's fine if I die today. Just don't mess up tomorrow.
I'll remove my vote if anyone can sell me on a better reason to vote for someone else, but no one is doing that so as it stands, you are at the top of my suspect list.
 

nin1000

Banned
No, I just stand in awe of your stunning playstyle. You truly deserve a title of your own.

Can i recieve a normal list from you then ? i mean all you did was complain after all Gorlak.

Or will you really try to vote ME out ? This will mean that we lose.

Do you really want to lose that hard Gorlak ?

Do you ?
 

Gorlak

Banned
How about this nin, I'll think of a number between 1 and 10, if you get it right, you can't live anymore. If you get it wrong you die.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Can i recieve a normal list from you then ? i mean all you did was complain after all Gorlak.

Stop beating this old bush. If you would have followed this day, you'd know there already is a post with my reads within the last page. I've provided my opinion, you didn't. Go on and try to be productive once.
 
My scum read list right now is:

Lone_Prodigy > MattyG > NF

Also I know time is winding down and I'm almost certainly going to die tonight ;___; I love you all

Quick, somebody make a claim that makes themselves a bigger target than me!
 

nin1000

Banned
My scum read list right now is:

Lone_Prodigy > MattyG > NF

Also I know time is winding down and I'm almost certainly going to die tonight ;___; I love you all

Quick, somebody make a claim that makes themselves a bigger target than me!

Timetokill is Scum just fyi
 
Just for you Matty, I went back to look at Retroid's posts (he was replaced by NF) and found this from confirmed scum Kyan:

Let us begin with the feelings list:

Townies:

Dusk Soldier - Cleared by Crab and I can’t see why there would be a Godfather in a game with a 1 shot cop.
nin1000 - A feeling based on his cooperative though tad cryptic behavior.
Mazre - Bit of a soft read, Catvoca did not ring any bells and neither does Mazre so far. The vote record past day one is bit iffy though.
Gorlak - His suspicion towards Crab seemed like towny suspicion. Up until now, scum have been playing somewhat conservatively, going for safe kills. Were Gorlak scum, his behavior towards Crab would’ve been very daring indeed, considering that when Crab or Dusk Soldier would be flipped, the other would instantly gain #townpoints, thus making Gorlak look bad.
timetokill - His information or scum will clear him for us.

Curiously, all townies here.

Scummies:

batsnacks - A feel and his vote record put him here. #scumpoints for d1 vote. He bussed dragonz too but that can be used against many.
SalvaPot - Scum or ordinary town trolling for lols. Final votes on townies and Gorlak. Entertained No Lynch on d1 but I think it is impossible to tell how serious this was.
Retroid - No Lynch, townie, nothing. Hardly any contributions. Competes with MattyG for the scum inactive trophy.
Zeemumu - Bad vote record, strange reasons for voting Ouro and ttk.
Hyperactivity - He too gets #scumpoints for the d1 vote. #2137 looks bad in hindsight. He argued openly for conservative scum play (what feel is true), could this be him trying to establish a cover for himself, since he’s been rather active?

bats was lost partner so he couldn't know.

Retroid is here, but lumped in with Matty for some reason. Other townies and the neutral in this list.

Unknownies:

MattyG - Townie, nothing, a late vote on dragonz. Lean more towards scum but would like to flip Retroid first because I think it is more likely only one of them is scum.
Timeaisis - Not feeling bad about him but his vote record ain’t all rosy.
tomakasatnav - No feels, votes meh.
Lone_Prodigy - No feels, votes not that good.
Barrylocke - No feels, votes here and there.

All town here with a reference to Matty as well.

I see at least two ways to proceed with the vote. The first is Gorlak’s day one vote list, bats, myself and Hyper. Since dragonz almost died on day one, it is fair to assume that scum would’ve tried to prevent that with more than one person. Here, the most suspicious in my opinion is Hyper with his last minute vote.

The second way is to look at the weird fuckery that was Ouro’s lynch. As bats so eloquently puts it in #1943, the various reasons that people came up with were strange. Here the candidates are (excluding Dusk “Town” Soldier and ttk) Zeemumu, Retroid, Barrylocke and Salvapot. Interestingly enough, some of the less active members made this list and I imagine there is scum here too. Quick scroll through the posts tells me that none of the included people did explain their vote on Ouro on day three when asked.

His top suspects for the day (this is the Hyper/CB vs. Gorlak day).

He throws Retroid and Matty in the "so inactive I can't get a read on them" camp.

Remember that late in the day Retroid comes in and just votes for Gorlak. Matty also votes Gorlak. Kyan votes CB, which is to be expected since he suspected him.

I really can't draw any conclusions from this because calling someone scummy for being inactive is not wrong.

NF's activity on the Kyan day:
-comes in, puts Kyan in town camp, puts Matty in inactive camp (along with tomkat and zeemumu)
-next post, analyzes Mazre. Kyan sits at 3 votes. I vote Kyan. Matty votes Kyan. Kyan claims.
-next post, votes Kyan, putting him one away from hammer.

Sure, things changed fast, but he could've voted earlier or at least address the "why Kyan" question.
 
TTK I just presented a scenario in which you live and everyone discredits your next track. It's entirely feasible you are spared tonight because you still look scummy.

VOTE: Never Forever

Doesn't matter much, but I'd rather leave my vote on scum.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Well ... at least I'm going to survive tonight.

You ever wondered why I give out drinks? If the crowd of my supporters is big enough (3+) they'll protect me. My drinks are so good, they can't live with the thought that nobody could ever appreciate them again. Randomly one of my drink receiver will take the bullet. Nin, Timeaisis, LP and tonight's target ~ 3 will be alive at the minimum.

I won't die.
 

nin1000

Banned
Well ... at least I'm going to survive tonight.

You ever wondered why I give out drinks? If the crowd of my supporters is big enough (3+) they'll protect me. My drinks are so good, they can't live with the thought that nobody could ever appreciate them again. Randomly one of my drink receiver will take the bullet. Nin, Timeaisis, LP and tonight's target ~ 3 will be alive at the minimum.

I won't die.

Lets see about that
Vote: Gorlak
 
Well ... at least I'm going to survive tonight.

You ever wondered why I give out drinks? If the crowd of my supporters is big enough (3+) they'll protect me. My drinks are so good, they can't live with the thought that nobody could ever appreciate them again. Randomly one of my drink receiver will take the bullet. Nin, Timeaisis, LP and tonight's target ~ 3 will be alive at the minimum.

I won't die.

Why reveal this now? I just told scum you were their biggest target and now they're going to shoot someone else.

If you gave a drink to Matty/NF, there would be a 1/3 chance of them getting shot (assume I die today). Now scum won't take that shot.
 

Gorlak

Banned
Why reveal this now? I just told scum you were their biggest target and now they're going to shoot someone else.

If you gave a drink to Matty/NF, there would be a 1/3 chance of them getting shot (assume I die today). Now scum won't take that shot.

Hm, well I didn't thought that through, did I? Sorry?
 
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