rokkerkory
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He prob made only a few million last year that's why
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Trump Campaign will not release Trump's taxes
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I will say that the Russia mention is not unprompted. People in the media have speculated the tax returns could show such a link. George Will wrote about that just a day or two ago.
It is funny how the last one not to release his taxes was Nixon. That's probably worse than not releasing being unprecedented.
It is funny how the last one not to release his taxes was Nixon. That's probably worse than not releasing being unprecedented.
Either it shows some shady dealings or it just shows that he's not making as much as he claims right now and Donald would never allow people to think he's not super successful.
Of course, almost nothing will make ardent supporters of a political figure move away from him. But this might scare away moderate and independents which are important to winning elections.
Of course, almost nothing will make ardent supporters of a political figure move away from him. But this might scare away moderate and independents which are important to winning elections.
I always found it weird that in the US people want to see candidates tax returns. Is it just to see how much they make or the connections they have? Do they really make a difference to most people?
Up here in Canada during the election last year no one released their tax records (iirc)b and no one was telling them to.
Up here in Canada during the election last year no one released their tax records (iirc)b and no one was telling them to.
Punchy4486
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In other words, I'm telling you I'm saying what I was told so if people find out there ARE ties to Russia, I have plausible deniability and I PERSONALLY never said their weren't, just that I was TOLD there weren't.
I think there are a good number of more educated Republicans still voting for him reluctantly out of party loyalty who can be pried away. You'll never make a dent among his uneducated white voter base, but with the educated half of the Republican electorate there's still serious damage that can be done, and the intersection of personal finances and national security/Russia is something that really speaks to that group.
I like the next line, "That's our position". It's merely a position that Trump has no dealings with Russia, not a plain statement of fact!
Scrotum Phillips
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A birther who demanded to see Obama's birth certificate won't release his own tax returns. He deservedly should be lambasted for this, but I think we know better how this will play out.
lol wow, dude is on point.
Is he voting Hillary now? Wasn't he a Republican/trump supporter at the start?
OriginalThinking
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But crooked Hillary right?
its not weird. it shows how much they influence and whether certain claims like charity and net worth are real. You should know how your public officials are getting paid.
I think it is a good thing about American politics. Tax returns in general should be made public like they are in some countries. That way the tax evaders get exposed and we'll know how much you really are about helping the country forward.
He might have been a republican, but he has been shouting about how Trump is not as rich as he claims for a while.
Dubbedinenglish
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If he makes as little as Cuban is saying versus what he claims in public would also be a question of fraud. Large part of his business is his claim of wealth if investors are investing based on that claim then fraud could be easily claimed.
Isn't Mark Cuban a Libertarian? Big fan of Ayn Rand afaik.
Also he's a business man, I'm sure he realizes that a Trump win would be fucking terrible for the economy. In that regard a Clinton win would be much more desirable for him, I doubt he cares about social conservatism that much.
Resident_UA
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Any chances that they are lying about an audit? is there a way to check?
Chaos2Frozen
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In his own words-
"But then he went and opened his mouth."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqMzX4_1Eg
PsychoSoldier
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I think if they're pretending like they're populists and complaining about tax loopholes and they're actually raking it in abusing those same loopholes then that's something that undermines their narrative.
With Trump it's way more important because he owns a lot of businesses and given one of the central questions of governance is the way in which businesses conduct themselves and how much to tax them, etc, knowing all this is pretty important.
thestopsign
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Is there anyway to actually confirm if he is indeed being audited? Could become a big scandal if he isn't.
It's irrelevant if they are or not, an audit would not prevent them from releasing their tax returns.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Leave it to the press. I'm sure they'll uncover the truth. lol.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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He said it had nothing to do with Russia, glad that cleared everything up!
BotoxAgent
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There is something about Mr. Trump hiding his tax returns. There's something. And we should look into it.
radios shipping overview
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There's something going on there. There's definitely something going on.
ShockingAlberto
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It's helpful, really. Just use this as an example. There are concerns if Trump has business dealings with Russian leaders, because he will be in a position to leverage foreign policy to make himself money. I would like to know that before I pull the lever for someone.
I don't think whether or not someone gave to charity enough matters to me, but a lack of released taxes can speak volumes.
Trump did business with shady Russians but that money sort of dried up so he's moved to shady CHYNA money - The TPM article on Trump/Russia was full of half truths to bend the narrative to the RUSSIAN PLANT angle and lol if you still believe it.
Anyway the "bombshell" is probably something really dumb like Trump not being as rich as he claims. He's a very sensitive guy when it comes to that shit, like it sends him into a straight up fury. When he did the Comedy Central roast he said that everything was fair game - except they couldn't joke about his wealth.
Anyway the "bombshell" is probably something really dumb like Trump not being as rich as he claims. He's a very sensitive guy when it comes to that shit, like it sends him into a straight up fury. When he did the Comedy Central roast he said that everything was fair game - except they couldn't joke about his wealth.
I probably should have read throuhg the thread BEFORE I typed up this same response lol. Sad!
tedrotheredro
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He pays the accounting firm to audit his returns. He can just request them to take their time.
My question is where are prior year returns? Those should have already been audited, so why not release those?
Mengy
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Yep. Either he is not anywhere near as rich as he says he is and he wants to maintain his billionaire image, or there are shady dealings which he is hiding. An IRS audit alone is not a reason to keep them secret, he is hiding something which can hurt him.
fixedpoint
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Wow re: Felix Sater. Don't forget about Carter "Gazprom" Page as foreign adviser.
Rollo Tomasi
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Already seeing the "Hillary wouldn't release her emails. Democrats didn't mind. So why bother with his tax returns?" crap on Facebook.
PlayALLtheGames
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He needs to be hammered on this every fucking interview, that fucking weasel.
radios shipping overview
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Russian plant, no. Bought off by Russian money, likely. Favored by Russian interests, definitely. Employs a guy who did campaign consulting for a pro-Kremlin, anti-democratic president of Ukraine and friend of Putin, factually.
He rubs shoulders with the wrong people.
Basically. This should not be let go of.
No.
Mark Cuban is no dummy
GutsOfThor
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I'm not saying trump has ties to Russia, but it's definitely something that should be looked at.
MasterShotgun
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Either the returns would totally contradict Trump's image or there is some truly awful shit in there. Probably both. Dems need to be constantly attacking him on this.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Trump needs to be hammered in every interview and every debate about this and his supposed wealth. Get his ego to a boil so he'll crack and say something that exposes him or is otherwise unforgivable.
Crimson_Fate
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The IRS controls the Audit not Trump, they can end the audit any time and trump wouldn't have this as an excuse.
If there was anything to see there I'd bet this Audit would have been over.
If there was anything to see there I'd bet this Audit would have been over.
That's their position, though. It's how they feel, and in this election that's what matters. Or somehing.
I mean, he's an actual billionaire, unlike Trump. Billionaires know how other billionaires behave, so he probably knew Trump was full of shit about his actual wealth from the jump. The first clue was he was so hesitant to drop $50 million on his campaign. If Trump was nearly as wealthy as he claims, that would be equivalent to impulse buying a video game for the rest of us.
Of course Putin wants Trump to win, but there is about as much evidence of Trump being a Russian asset in any way as there is of Ted Cruz's dad being a part of the JFK assassination.
I think that Russia did the hacking but Manafort isn't gonna risk his ass having a trip to Guantanamo just to have his guy win the election. That's my beef with this whole thing.
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