I don't know. I think John Oliver and the proliferation of politics and parody on twitter, reddit and instagram have pretty much taken over what Stewart used to do. No one really knows Trevor Noah nor do they watch the Daily Show like they did when Stewart did it. The times, they have-a changed.
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Trevor Noah is doing an absolutely excellent job with the Daily Show
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I don't know. I think John Oliver and the proliferation of politics and parody on twitter, reddit and instagram have pretty much taken over what Stewart used to do. No one really knows Trevor Noah nor do they watch the Daily Show like they did when Stewart did it. The times, they have-a changed.
Hugely surprised by the hate in this thread. I try to watch him daily and absolutely love the show. All my CC watching friends feel the same.
I think he is doing fantastic and it blows me away that some think he's worse than fucking Larry Wilmore. The Nightly Show is a trainwreck. Larry can't even get through most of his terrible jokes because he starts breaking character and laughing. He has no professionalism as a host and it seems like he just doesn't even care half the time. The writing is embarrassingly lazy and the segments are god awful.
Trevor has good delivery, good writing, and his serious segments can really pack a punch. He doesn't just hate on Fox and the GOP every show, he calls out both sides for being stupid and does so articulately. And I agree that his correspondents are amazing and usually kill it in their own segments. His interviews are also much easier to get through than most of Stewart's. Stewart could be a really awkward and rough interviewer. Noah keeps things flowing and doesn't let the awkward moments hang for too long.
He's only gotten better and will continue to do so in the coming years. As for Larry Wilmore, he has stayed the same, if not gotten worse, since his rough start over a year ago. I used to watch him everyday but it just got to me after awhile and I could not stand him constantly laughing at his own unfunny jokes, his complete lack of focus on the script and keeping the show moving, and his cringey and unnecessary segments from his hit-or-miss correspondents.
Wilmore trash, Noah 4 lyfe.
EDIT: I also appreciate Noah's African heritage and the different perspectives it brings to the show as a whole. And people give Stewart way too much credit. His monologue's were usually excellent but I honestly don't know what else people liked about that show. He had great call out segments, but the last 7-10 minutes of every episode were borderline unwatchable because of his terrible, terrible interviews.
I think he is doing fantastic and it blows me away that some think he's worse than fucking Larry Wilmore. The Nightly Show is a trainwreck. Larry can't even get through most of his terrible jokes because he starts breaking character and laughing. He has no professionalism as a host and it seems like he just doesn't even care half the time. The writing is embarrassingly lazy and the segments are god awful.
Trevor has good delivery, good writing, and his serious segments can really pack a punch. He doesn't just hate on Fox and the GOP every show, he calls out both sides for being stupid and does so articulately. And I agree that his correspondents are amazing and usually kill it in their own segments. His interviews are also much easier to get through than most of Stewart's. Stewart could be a really awkward and rough interviewer. Noah keeps things flowing and doesn't let the awkward moments hang for too long.
He's only gotten better and will continue to do so in the coming years. As for Larry Wilmore, he has stayed the same, if not gotten worse, since his rough start over a year ago. I used to watch him everyday but it just got to me after awhile and I could not stand him constantly laughing at his own unfunny jokes, his complete lack of focus on the script and keeping the show moving, and his cringey and unnecessary segments from his hit-or-miss correspondents.
Wilmore trash, Noah 4 lyfe.
EDIT: I also appreciate Noah's African heritage and the different perspectives it brings to the show as a whole. And people give Stewart way too much credit. His monologue's were usually excellent but I honestly don't know what else people liked about that show. He had great call out segments, but the last 7-10 minutes of every episode were borderline unwatchable because of his terrible, terrible interviews.
Extra Sauce
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Noah is not off-the-cuff funny, which makes him inadequate for the job.
It's definitely not what it was under Stewart, but it's been watchable and has gotten slightly better. Still, it's easily better than Larry Wilmore's show, which I can't even bring myself to watch any longer.
John Oliver and Samantha Bee are both doing a better job than either of them.
John Oliver and Samantha Bee are both doing a better job than either of them.
Underrated post.
Noah isn't attached to the gravity of politics in the country the same way Jon was/is, and it shows.
Hero_of_the_Day
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He's way better than Wilmore, I'll give you that. Trevor is just not good, Larry is painfully terrible.
Vigilant Walrus
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I like him. If you don't compare him, and look at him as his own thing, I think a lot of people would see him in a different light. He has gotten better over the last year!
Dragon1893
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I like him but Jon will always be the GOAT for me.
EmpressInYellow
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And they're both doing it once a week, which is a totally different gig.
I think Trevor is fine. He's a lot better than Jon was about certain stuff, but I feel like the show is still trying to find its own voice. For those who think Trevor is too "detached" or "light-hearted"...I dunno. His frustration with certain issues (race, gun violence, Trump) is pretty evident every time he has to talk about them.
It's hard to pin down exactly where Trevor's problems lie. A little of it is delivery, but I think a lot of it is in the writing. I don't know that Jon could've done that much more with that material.
Anyway, I still think it's much stronger than The Nightly Show, which suffers from TERRIBLE panel segments and almost uniformly unwatchable bits - any skit that involves the staff playing other characters is almost guaranteed to be a trainwreck.
Bill Maher, meanwhile, continues to be an insufferable, smug man-baby.
I think he's "ok." The show's enjoyable, and if it's on I'll watch it (and laugh). But it's not something I will go out of my way for.
Also, this. I hope Stewart knocks it out of the park with whatever he's doing on HBO next year.
Also, this. I hope Stewart knocks it out of the park with whatever he's doing on HBO next year.
Officerrob
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Good god no. I check TDS out once or twice a month to see if it's improved, but ugh... Thankfully Samantha Bee's show is fantastic
He's been doing a lot better lately. Still has a long way to go, but seems to have evolved from his early fluff days.
I assume most of the hate are people who stopped watching pretty early. Worth it to watch some of the more recent segments that made the rounds.
And keep in mind just because its not hitting the highs of Jon Stewart doesn't mean it's bad.
I assume most of the hate are people who stopped watching pretty early. Worth it to watch some of the more recent segments that made the rounds.
And keep in mind just because its not hitting the highs of Jon Stewart doesn't mean it's bad.
ElectricBlanketFire
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I completely disagree. I feel bad as he had impossibly big shoes to fill, but I just don't enjoy his style.
Haunted
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Always-honest
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I agree.
The bar was unfairly set on the moon for him to try and reach. He is improving though all the time. He just needs to experience at least two presidential elections and countless depressing setbacks from the American congress to improve the lives of Americans in ways that should be obvious but somehow never goes through.
And burn himself on at least 7 years of watching Fox News.
And burn himself on at least 7 years of watching Fox News.
I gained more respect for him after watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoJ6kKl1E
He managed that conversation so amazingly well, too bad it wasn't on "TV".
He's sharp and a bit more serious. I like his format. He's not Stewart and he's not trying to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoJ6kKl1E
He managed that conversation so amazingly well, too bad it wasn't on "TV".
He's sharp and a bit more serious. I like his format. He's not Stewart and he's not trying to.
I definitely think they improved. Roy Wood Jr and Jordan Klepper have been killing it with their Summer Games segments.
MiniBossBattle
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Feel like we watched a different show. I felt the quality and delivery, as a whole, went down. It's not all on Noah but I am just not feeling it like I used to.
John Oliver hits the right tone of abusurdity and earnestness that TDS had.
John Oliver hits the right tone of abusurdity and earnestness that TDS had.
Poodlestrike
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Honestly, I'd have agreed with you before the last few weeks, but when I saw Jon on Colbert, it just... put things into perspective. Trevor just doesn't have it. The correspondents are good, but they're carrying him on their backs, and that only goes so far.
Dr. Benton Quest
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Stewart's segment on Colbert recently really made me miss him.
Trevor is ok at best. Oliver is the new king.
Trevor is ok at best. Oliver is the new king.
The Illiterati
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I haven't watched Trevor Noah so no comment on that part. But people are probably forgetting that Jon Stewart had numerous failed late night shows and way more experience before he truly hit gold on the Daily Show. The two aren't on an even playing field at all.
If that was true, you would've added -in my opinion- in the title as opposed to stating it as if it was a fact.
quackamole
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Nope don't think he is good.
Honestly I've never found it fair to compare him to Stewart, although that's inevitable. He has a completely different style and approach.
That said, I don't think his style and approach fits the show all that well. Really haven't watched it in forever because, as others have said, it's been supplanted by other shows with higher quality.
That said, I don't think his style and approach fits the show all that well. Really haven't watched it in forever because, as others have said, it's been supplanted by other shows with higher quality.
jacob armitage
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I think he's doing pretty well, but i still feel like he's finding his rhythm and voice with it. I should go back and watch some of the show from when John Stewart took over, might be a more fair comparison.
Morrigan Stark
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I don't like him as much as Stewart, but he's doing fine. I don't get the hate.
I like John Oliver, he's an OK host, but sometimes he's really annoying, and I can't say the same with Trevor.
This. John Oliver's comedic bits are awful 90% of the time. His forced pop culture references are trite as hell too, and people bitching about hosts laughing at his own jokes? John Oliver does it far more than Trevor Noah does and in a far more grating way.
I like John Oliver, he's an OK host, but sometimes he's really annoying, and I can't say the same with Trevor.
shadow_shogun
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Totally agree, he gets even better with each episode. Last night episode was a very funny one, especially the vuvuzela bit.
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