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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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As mentioned earlier, keeping the NX name would mean that you'd get all of the rumors associated with it when you search it up on Google. This would result in conflicting messages to the average joe. As such, Nintendo starting with a clean slate by going for a new name would make more sense.
Also, I recall Reggie saying at E3 that we'd find out the NX's final name later this year, implying that they aren't sticking with the NX name.
So, what did I miss? Did they announce/tease the chip and it's worse than expected on some points, better on others?
Not sure what is happening on this page
We know most of the specs of Tegra "Parker." That doesn't really mean anything though.
Parker is the nickname of Pascal Tegra I believe.
Parker is the codename of the Pascal Tegra.
Muffin Awesome
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Do you think it is possible that Nintendo is waffling between which chip because they know they are going to be launching direct with the Neo?
With this unknown of Sony's upcoming price realignment for the Neo/slim/og models, if there is a price dip that may go below the NX starting price, could this explain why nothing concrete for NX is out there besides rumors and speculation so late in the game from initial mention by Nintendo?
With this unknown of Sony's upcoming price realignment for the Neo/slim/og models, if there is a price dip that may go below the NX starting price, could this explain why nothing concrete for NX is out there besides rumors and speculation so late in the game from initial mention by Nintendo?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Whatever the final specs are gonna be for the NX would need to be finalized soon.
Serenitynow
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Tbh, I don't think Nintendo gives a fuck. Like sure, obviously management is aware of what Sony is doing and will try to launch NX most competitively, but I don't think they care to the level of waffling and changing specs. They're aiming for a different demographic and they know it.
Pascal is inside Parker...
Don't ask.
lol
because Nintendo gonna Nintendo, right? You think their previous hardware outings, they were just "winging it"? It's not because they are aiming for a different market, that they want to make inefficient hardware or like pissing away money. Even though you can argue they didn't make the best choices with WiiU, Wii, 3DS... the hardware itself was usually very efficient for what they wanted to do with it.
Production is rumored to be already started. That woudn't surprise me, if the March '17 "in-store" date is ww.
I think the best thing they could do would be to call it just the "Nintendo." Strip away all the excess and go back to the beginning. Echoes of when everyone said "let's play Nintendo" regardless of what they were actually playing. Packaging and marketing could be really simple and beautiful too.
I think that the price delta between X1 and Parker is a bit smaller than what a lot of you think. Actually, both X1 and Parker have a lot of things that Nintendo doesn't need, so a custom chip with Pascal could be smaller than both of them.
I highly doubt that production has started. It's way too early for that. November-December makes more sense unless yields are really bad and they need a lot of time to build stock. That would mean a massive day-one update though.
Eolz
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I see, thanks!
Sounds kind of good then? Of course it will be a custom one for Nintendo, but seems like a good base.
My guess would be... "Nintendo Fusion"
Mithos
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While not 100% confirmed yet it looks like this is what happened.
Tegra X1
512Gflops (FP32) 1Tflop (FP16)
Tegra X2/Parker (x1)
625Gflops (FP32) 1.25Tflop (FP16)
So improvement could be in the power consumtion instead of a major boost in raw power.
Eolz
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That sounds really good for an handheld!
Mithos
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But it's a hybrid that is supposed to be a handheld and a home console, and for the home console part it's not particularly good.
Then again, I'm not looking at this as a wow what a great jump for a handheld, I'm looking at this as wow what a disappointment, a very modest jump from Tegra X1.
Later today/tomorrow we will know for sure though.
Well, but is what was always said since the leak came out. A hybrid console, which's power is between Wii U and Xbox One.
I really didn't expect anything too close to the One since I've read the closed pascal tech thread. I guess for a hybrid it would be the maximum what would be reasonable possible.
R
Rösti
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The Hot Chips 2016 NVIDIA presentation slides are up, but "available" only for people with the password:
http://www.hotchips.org/wp-content/....321-Tegra-Parker-AndiSkende-NVIDIA-v01-2.pdf
http://www.hotchips.org/wp-content/...20-Pascal-GPU-DanskinFoley-NVIDIA-v05-6_7.pdf
http://www.hotchips.org/wp-content/....321-Tegra-Parker-AndiSkende-NVIDIA-v01-2.pdf
http://www.hotchips.org/wp-content/...20-Pascal-GPU-DanskinFoley-NVIDIA-v05-6_7.pdf
Godzilla's Left Toe
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I think we should really call it what it really is a Micro Console.
Neither of those would actually happen in a handheld. Look to more like half of what you see there.
It's supposed to be 60% more powerefficient. That's nothing to sneeze at either.
Eolz
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Yeah, I have the same opinion but after people saying in the last thread I was too negative, I'm trying to find a positive twist on it...
Really think this is extremely disappointing for a home console, but we'll see when all the details are out I guess.
We'll see how it is in the end depending on the resolution I guess.
TyMiles2012
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If it's comparable and/or slightly stronger than the WiiU, and has a proper portable portion, then it's definitely going to be impressive.
Pointer controls are vastly different from touch screen inputs. Yeah they are more similar to each other than analogue sticks vs. touch screen. But they are still not the same thing. I can't even begin to comprehend how an Elite Beats Agents game would work with pointer controls without an extreme overhaul.
It really is a tricky situation, if you have different control schemes between docked/handheld than it defeats the purpose of a hybrid. I suppose I could see it being a touch screen-less game but that would be a damn shame.
johnnyjoint
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Guys check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8 It looks pretty much like the leaked NX patent i hope NX will be prettier than that
i hope NX will be prettier than thatThe only way i'm impressed by this is if Nintendo gets rid of all the stuff the chip has that they don't need for a console and use it for a bit of SRAM and another SM, but i'm not sure they're going to do that instead of just having lower power consumption and less heat, which would benefit the portable greatly.
And yes, the portable side will probably be impressive in any case (well, except for the scenario where they use a 6-7" screen with a 540p res, which would be ludicrous) but the main reason i want this at d1 is to play Zelda and i don't care about playing it on the go. Which means that if the hardware when used as a home doesn't meet certain standards, it would be a no buy for me.
And yes, the portable side will probably be impressive in any case (well, except for the scenario where they use a 6-7" screen with a 540p res, which would be ludicrous) but the main reason i want this at d1 is to play Zelda and i don't care about playing it on the go. Which means that if the hardware when used as a home doesn't meet certain standards, it would be a no buy for me.
Yeah about that: i'm not playing on a portable the size of the Wii U Gamepad or even bigger. It's just uncomfortable imho. If they go with 6-7" (like i think they will), i hope they have something similar to the current clamshell design, put the controls under the screen and make it detachable.Guys check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8 It looks pretty much like the leaked NX patent
TyMiles2012
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Guys check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8 It looks pretty much like the leaked NX patent
That... is VERY clunky. lol
Graphics Horse
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Guys check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8 It looks pretty much like the leaked NX patent
Posted earlier, but now with a guy in comments saying Eurogamer were tricked into thinking this was nx for their article, lol.
#TeamAMD lives.
johnnyjoint
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Yeah i saw that too.Maybe Nintendo should reveal the NX sooner before some other company reveal something similar to this
Guys check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8 It looks pretty much like the leaked NX patent
I'm mostly excited now about the return of the Wiimote/Nunchuk split controller setup.
Eolz
Member
Well then, it'll be just a beefy handheld with tv out until something better/different happens.
A shame, but that's a strategy worth trying I guess...
Yup, i REALLY hope this is happening. Detachable controllers being Wiimote/nunchuck. Best thing about the Wii (since the console itself is probably my least liked console).
I respect your opinion and find it even understandable
but the fact is that if the EG rumor is true, it actually is a portable, successor of the 3ds, and by a tech point of view seems pretty hot
As home console not that much, but neither was the wii, that despite that thanks to many factors (price, lineup etc..) ended up being a very hot console to me
So if this time we will get a "wii like" home but with the advantages of having all nintendo teams on it, all classic nintendo portable japanese third party support on it and being able to buy just one hw..
I would say that the propositions would be pretty neat
It is not just a home console for sure, so judging it that way seems at least strange and probably you would not do you any favor in looking at it that way only
Plinko
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That may have been the plan all along.
Think about their traditional release: 3DS' successor would have come next, followed by the Wii U's if they were replacing them in order of release.
Handheld w/TV out comes first, then a dock that upgrades the power for home use comes later. Same exact order of release.
Guys check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8 It looks pretty much like the leaked NX patent
The input lag in that thing is DISGUSTING.
OrbitalBeard
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Nintendo isn't going to market NX as simply a portable, so claiming it's simply their next handheld makes little sense.
It's going to contain many console experiences (like Breath of the Wild).
NX is not simply a successor to the 3DS. It's also a successor to their home console line. So, people have every right to be disappointed in its power from that perspective.
That being said, who cares? It's a device that will receive 100% of the attention from all of Nintendo's internal and external partners. It's more than worth it in my view.
It's going to contain many console experiences (like Breath of the Wild).
NX is not simply a successor to the 3DS. It's also a successor to their home console line. So, people have every right to be disappointed in its power from that perspective.
That being said, who cares? It's a device that will receive 100% of the attention from all of Nintendo's internal and external partners. It's more than worth it in my view.
Mihos
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ugh, I absolutely can't stand that setup. I hated it to the point that I wouldn't buy a game if I couldn't use the pro controller.
Why still focus on specs and not ingame videos to decide if we need to be disappointed?
People still thinking in console terms. But it's an handheld. The hybrid is only valid if they have a base station to make it more powerful. The only question is with connected on tv, how powerful it is with the base station.
The gfx on the handheld would be insane. It will maybe perform even equsl/better as ps4, because of the small screen. I don't worry about that, look what the 3ds can do.
Other question is, what else can it do?
People still thinking in console terms. But it's an handheld. The hybrid is only valid if they have a base station to make it more powerful. The only question is with connected on tv, how powerful it is with the base station.
The gfx on the handheld would be insane. It will maybe perform even equsl/better as ps4, because of the small screen. I don't worry about that, look what the 3ds can do.
Other question is, what else can it do?
Give me the powerful dock at launch, I much rather console game, it dont need to be held back longer, WiiU has been dead longer then the 3DS.
Foe fps it destroys dual analog.
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