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Digital Homicide is seeking Legal Action aganist Valve

Kirye

Member
I agree with them that Steam users shouldn't have been sending them and their family death threats, but threatening to sue everytime someone insults their terrible game is not the way to go. Suing a billion dollar company with no money, motive or even a knowledgeable lawyer is just moronic.

Learn how to make a proper game, learn how to make your own models and artwork and learn what little tidbits actually make a game appealing and apply them to your projects. They'd get shit for it at first but it's never too late to reinvent yourself.

Sadly though it feels as if these guys only care about how to make a quick buck.
 
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Hoooooly shit they're doing it.
 

Dmented

Banned
Not only did they threaten to sue over 100 users who had left bad reviews of their Games on the Steam Store, they sent a Subpoena to Valve to release the personal info of the users.

Valve said "Fuck you.", and took them off Steam for threatening their customers, rightfully so. Mind you purchasing them is the only thing that's been removed, if you previously purchased it, you still keep it in your library (though I honestly don't see why any sane person would do so).

LOL. What fucking creepy morons. It's crazy that it seems they TRULY believe their games are good and they are doing nothing wrong.

Can't wait for the Jimquisition on this.

Aren't they suing him as well, or is that someone else? If so, then I doubt there will be one on this until the lawsuit is over. It's kind of stupid to mention really anything about a person/company while under litigation.
 

VariantX

Member
Went from suing a guy who voiced his dislike of their so-called games to suing customers who did the same to now suing Valve for getting tired of their shit. These guys are running out of windmills to charge. Valve has infinity resources compared to those others, they're getting steamrolled.
 

Hesemonni

Banned
I know these guys only on a thread topic level basis, but judging by the amount of lawsuits thrown around they sure seem like a great bunch.
 
Went from suing a guy who voiced his dislike of their so-called games to suing customers who did the same to now suing Valve for getting tired of their shit. These guys are running out of windmills to charge.

Next time they will sue Microsoft, IBM and von Neumann's descendants because they let personal computers to happen.
 
Hmmm I guessed in that other thread that they might be purposely trying to piss Valve off to get Valve to ban them and therefore have grounds (not really) to sue Valve. Seems like that came true.
 

Shiggy

Member
I actually do support them suing people who were threatening them and their families. I also believe Valve should be forced by courts to release personal information of those users.

Suing anyone who trashed their games? Obviously bullshit.
 

Tainted

Member
I actually do support them suing people who were threatening them and their families. I also believe Valve should be forced by courts to release personal information of those users.

..but on the same token, they are reacting to garbage spouted by random internet dudes. Most developers / publishers would just brush it off or ignore it completely....but DH take everything to heart and act like children.

You only need to listen to that interview with Jim Sterling to find out what they are all about.
 

xealo

Member
Good luck to Digital Homicide.

They'll need it going up against the cadre of top tier lawyers a billion dollar company have.
 

Maztorre

Member
I actually do support them suing people who were threatening them and their families. I also believe Valve should be forced by courts to release personal information of those users.

Suing anyone who trashed their games? Obviously bullshit.

The reason Digital Homicide were receiving threats was because they were constantly, and publicly, escalating aggression between themselves and users. If they were legitimately worried about death threats then the proper channel for that is by reporting it to law enforcement, not demanding the release of personal information so they can pursue even more frivolous civil lawsuits.

Valve, not to mention any company with a fucking brain, are absolutely in the right to withold user information unless they are complying with law enforcement with criminal charges. The precedent you are advocating is that a company with hurt feelings can determine what a "threat" is, and then demand personal information from another company via civil courts, which is mayhem.
 
Those crazy cats at digital homicide after contemplating suing valve...

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They need to stop, reassess what the actual fuck they are doing, get their shit together and move on. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
 

Shiggy

Member
..but on the same token, they are reacting to garbage spouted by random internet dudes. Most developers / publishers would just brush it off or ignore it completely....but DH take everything to heart and act like children.

You only need to listen to that interview with Jim Sterling to find out what they are all about.

As said, I only support them suing people spitting out personal threats.
 

DrkSage

Member
They don't have balls, but shit load of insanity.

"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results"

-sues Jim and fails? Check
-tries to sue 100 steam users and fails? Check x100
-proceeds to sue valve, and outcome leaning to certain failure? Check

Yep, they're definitely insane
 

Fishook

Member
The problem lies with the amount of idiots who post shite, on the internet. I have never played or bought a Digital Homicide game as I do not buy stuff I am not intending to play.

Moaning and complaining about people when you know your products are shovelware /niche which some people may find enjoying, that's part of developing games in the modern culture. All games get criticized. I bet Jim Stirling exactly increased revenue for these idiots with some people like playing bad games for a laugh, and it brought more attention to this two bit company.

Suing a 12 year old who thinks is funny to post crap is not the way to go about it. Steam has made the right stance/ withdrawing there games.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
These fucking people are living in a god damned fantasy land if they think they are going to take on a company as big, powerful and rich as valve and their army of lawyers. Those fucking fools really trying to commit digital suicide if they think they have any chance at all. The countersuit from Valve will basically destroy them.
 

Tainted

Member
As said, I only support them suing people spitting out personal threats.

...personal threats from internet dudes. I'm not condoning it, but they really need to grow a thick skin and move on.

The situation they find themselves in now is the result of them not being able to do this like any other dev who has made shit games in the past. They cannot seem to handle criticism at all. If they are threatening to sue everyone making personal internet attacks they will never win...if anything, it has just make things worse for them.
 

Shiggy

Member
Iono... Zoe Quinn couldn't get anywhere with her case, why would theirs be different?

I'm sorry, who is Zoe Quinn?

Not sure if you are trying to argue in favor of such threats? Don't really think there's an argument to be made about this. Death threats aren't acceptable.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
I mean, the Steam Terms of Use for selling on their storefront clearly covers multiple grounds here which gives Valve the right easily, even ignoring everything else surrounding the case. They had to have signed the legal documents and agree to these terms to sell their games on Steam.

This case is going flat super quickly. But we've already concluded Digital Homicide is not a 'company' that runs on real world logic.
 
Sounds to me like this guy's whole issue is that he thinks Steam is like Facebook or something along those lines. He seems to understand that it's a marketplace only from the perspective that it is a source of income for him. Complete and utter lack of professionalism.

Not sure if you are trying to argue in favor of such threats? Don't really think there's an argument to be made about this. Death threats aren't acceptable.
Seemed obvious to me that the poster is just saying that typically legal cases against online death threats don't get very far. Same goes for any other online harassment. There's not much (if any) precedent of the legal approach working in scenarios like this, so why spend the time and money? I don't want to speak for another poster but I don't think they're defending death threats so much as saying that taking legal action on an individual level here is a waste of resources.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Next up: suing ISPs and Microsoft for giving people a platform to talk bad about their bad games.
 
So I'm confused here. Digital Homicide is clearly in the right aren't they?

Yeah, I feel conflicted. Surely there should be some kind of comeback against users who are continually hostile, threatening and insulting...? I wonder what Valve's usual stance on this is, or do they typically just ignore it.
 
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