AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
This was very eloquently stated, and this will be my last post in the topic,since it says everything I want to in a much kinder way. Bravo.
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Disney releases Maui costume that lets kids pretend to be Polynesian
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This was very eloquently stated, and this will be my last post in the topic,since it says everything I want to in a much kinder way. Bravo.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Hulk mad
One of Dan Harmon's master strokes.
People are going to react however they are going to react until race is no longer an issue. You just have to take your lumps in whatever you choose to do. Fighting people who are outraged when the merits of the argument are so easily on display like the flayed man here, however, is an odd hill to die on.
this really is what's going to happen eventually if people continue to be outraged over the most harmless things like this costume.
PdotMichael
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I like the fact that people turning Polynesians into black people to have an argument.
i was halfway joking. yeah his character is pretty much a cosplay that gets called out. and it was funny for the plot. but the bigger picture was that the movie gets praised a lot. and his career wasnt hurt for it.
the people doing the same tropic thunder character for halloween on the other hand...
yikes
Maori yes, but this isn't the maori people being discussed here.
Now, i am leaving.
Apologies for the idiocy.
Is this a similar thing? Tribal or religious symbolism attached to the markings?
Really sensitive PC people getting upset over stupid, trivial, inconsequential shit like this are the reason Trump is one step away from getting the nuke codes.
It's just a costume for kids who want to look like their favourite character from a Disney kids film. There's nothing more to see here.
It's just a costume for kids who want to look like their favourite character from a Disney kids film. There's nothing more to see here.
Night Angel
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I honestly can't believe people are upset about this. Seeing the words disgusting and gross in this thread makes me wonder if some people walk around in a state of perpetual disgust.
Kite
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Ya'll should probably wait and see if a large number of Maui people are actually offended before you get offended on their behalf. Not everyone is so weak and insecure that some kids wearing a cheap Halloween costume is going to destroy their culture lolol
It could be like that protest at some Boston art museum holding a kimono day, and some protesters started ranting about something something white people wearing kimonos = colonization and yellowface... rofl Then some old Japanese ladies and Japanese language teachers did a counter protest.
It could be like that protest at some Boston art museum holding a kimono day, and some protesters started ranting about something something white people wearing kimonos = colonization and yellowface... rofl Then some old Japanese ladies and Japanese language teachers did a counter protest.
SolarPowered
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I'm personally glad as a brown person that we have all these liberals on the board who can be offended on behalf of other people on the regular. Saves us a lot of time and energy.
/waits for an actual Polynesian to weigh in the on the issue
lol the cringeIt could be like that protest at some Boston art museum holding a kimono day, and some protesters started ranting about something something white people wearing kimonos = colonization and yellowface... rofl Then some old Japanese ladies and Japanese language teachers did a counter protest.
PdotMichael
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choodi
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So fucking what?
I'm sure the many polynesians that i know will be super excited to be able to buy a costume for their kids that they are able to culturally identify with.
If there was a rule that only white kids could buy the costume, then sure, be offended. But dont take away the one fucking costume that millions of pacific islander kids can buy and feel proud of just because you're super excited to scream "cultural appropriation" on their behalf.
Being offended on some other cultural group's behalf without ever asking if that group is offended is about the most ignorant and offensive thing in this whole situation.
I'm sure the many polynesians that i know will be super excited to be able to buy a costume for their kids that they are able to culturally identify with.
If there was a rule that only white kids could buy the costume, then sure, be offended. But dont take away the one fucking costume that millions of pacific islander kids can buy and feel proud of just because you're super excited to scream "cultural appropriation" on their behalf.
Being offended on some other cultural group's behalf without ever asking if that group is offended is about the most ignorant and offensive thing in this whole situation.
Maximus.
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clear material body suit for a child...can't see how that can be seen negatively either...A it doesnt technically cover them, B if they are wearing clothes underneath, it ruins the costume. It is better to have the suit color tanned instead of white because that would be worse. Clear wouldnt work for what I just stated above.
BocoDragon
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Yup. It also comes from a subtly racist and self-centred notion on the part of white Americans which automatically assumed that Americans are privileged over "oppressed" Japanese.
Tell that to a Japanese person. They thought they were privileged over you! You can wear their kimono and they'll pat you on the head and say "kawaii. Good little gaijin. Someday you might be one of us."
TwEE-N-Toast
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rofl Then some old Japanese ladies and Japanese language teachers did a counter protest.
But do Japanese people count in that conversation?
Night Angel
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Did you not read the thread? The wait is over. Disney is gross/disgusting/racist.
PHOENIXZERO
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Weird having Halloween merch for a movie that opens more than three weeks after Halloween.
merchandise never sleeps
Not after they missed the boat so hard on Frozen.
Ampersands
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The ratio is a bit skewed in the other direction lol. People love to pile on when they find other people who think they're right even when they have nothing to say.
CadetMahoney
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I loled at this more than I should have.
I've been thinking about the same thing lately..
Space Marine
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I believe that Disney should only be allowed to make costumes for pure little white children to wear, and the skin tone of their costumes should represent that.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to Disney World to pose in front of a statue of the Führer.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to Disney World to pose in front of a statue of the Führer.
excelsiorlef
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To be honest I missed the muscle padding.
Clear wouldn't work for that reason alone
Agreed if they are gonna make it, the way they did it is best.
SuperBanana
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"This is culturally insensitive and offensive" said the White person who never bothered asking the opinion of a Polynesian.
Daffy Duck
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There is literally nothing there to get upset over, it's a kid dress up costume of a character from a film.
Saying the opposite like many people in this thread is just as bad.
I mean this is nowhere near anything like blackface. Outrage culture at its worst. People need to learn to contextualise. This is a princess outfit who is the lead to Disney next big film. The marketing folks weren't going to just not make an outfit because she's black. This is also the most practical way to get the tattoos to work. Clear material would mean some kind of plastic shit which would make the outfit really uncomfortable. Nothing to see here IMO.
SuperBanana
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Well when people compare stuff like this to blackface they're just ignorant as hell as to what blackface is/was/represented. Making racist, degrading fun of a race and culture is not the same as this at all. If you're going to write an article about this at least ask a few people who it might actually effect.
Ok, any Polynesians reading this thread offended by this outfit?
Kite
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Is anything saying that Polynesians 100% don't find this offensive? I'm laughing at all the people getting offended on behalf of other people when as far as I can tell there has been no outcry from them. If it in like the Redskin sports team name then it's legit, if it's like that kimono thing then it is funny and cringe-y.
This keeps coming up.
Do you have to be black to be offended by blackface? Not saying that's what this is. But the logic that you need a Polynesian person to speak as if there is a hive mind is a little off.
A lot of Polynesians have already aired concern over the way their God is portrayed in the film. Others, not so much.
Yeah but what I'm saying is that non-Polynesian guys saying "what the fuck this isn't racist/offensive", when in reality they don't have a single clue, really rubs me the wrong way. It might turn out that most Polynesian people don't find it offensive but it's not up to random neogaffer #45 to say.
Right but blackface is already a cultural thing where people are essentially making fun of another person. This is an outfit for kids to dress up as a Disney Princess, they are not one and the same.
Rabbi_Vole
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What if a Polynesian child wears this?
Then they're obviously body shaming. What, a skinny person can't play that character? SMH at those fake muscles.
Why not? This is a discussion forum. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion on a subject. The intent on this outfit is for little kids to be able to dress up as a Disney Princess. It's not to offend an entire culture of people. In my opinion anyone who is offended by this is looking for something to be offended by.
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