The Hamburglar
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Haven't played ff7 in ages. Did Barrett really speak in Ebonics lol?
I disagree, representation of a playable woman is always talked about. Like the costume design, camera treatment, writing, etc. just having a playable woman isn't the end goal but better representation as a whole.The sad thing about the point of the OP is that in 2016, having playable female characters is enough for most people. That's the end all be all of diversity. FF15 isn't diverse because it MIGHT not have playable women, but all other FF's are EXTREMELY diverse because they do, to the point where they should be put on a pedestal.
Meanwhile, when black people were in a RPG that wasn't ultra realistic, there would usually be some sort of mammy stereotypes being used to differentiate. Kiros in FF8 was the first black character who didn't immediately scream "GIANT BLACK 70's STEREOTYPE HERE!!!" that I can actively think of in my mind.
So no, FF games aren't bastions of diversity because you can play as a woman in them. It's just for a lot of people, female inclusion is their last stand because when you get that, your argument is made and you can stop.
Haven't played ff7 in ages. Did Barrett really speak in Ebonics lol?
I don't know if it was "ebonics" but it was notably different than other characters:
The entire sequence is played as a joke about how demeaning is for cloud to do this, every single person who gives him a piece of the disguise is portrait as a weirdo
Ok ... 2 people. Do Barret family ever appear in the game ?
Still ... it feels like some white supremacists took control of the world a few years before
Kind of is. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure 3 of the 4 people you have to interact with to win that sequence are painted as social or sexual deviants. The dress maker is the most normal one and he is NOT NORMAL.This just isn't true.
They will end up toning down most of the humor, and a lot of the charm the original had will be lost in trying to take the story way too seriously. I wouldn't expect any praise for diversity since black people are as rare as an endangered talking dog species.
Barret's mannerisms felt less like "this is what Japan thinks black people act like" and more like "this is the strong and angry man in the party",
I don't know if it was "ebonics" but it was notably different than other characters:
Also, while I'm looking:
Kind of is. It's been a while but I'm pretty sure 3 of the 4 people you have to interact with to win that sequence are painted as social or sexual deviants. The dress maker is the most normal one and he is NOT NORMAL.
This is pretty much the opposite of what Nomura has said that the Remake will be.
Lmao I read all that with some angry black man voice. Dude was pissed but barret hard a hard life. Didn't cid speak quite similar though?
Barrets text is unironicially comical.
It's not, actually.
So far the only carryover from the FFXV team is Roberto Ferrari, who designed Cindy.
Yeah, I know, not entirely encouraging, but so far he seems to be doing it right judging by Jessie.
I know Barrett was just a bad stereotype through most of the game. But damn man, he was one of my favourite characters. The realest out of the lot
..the adopted non black daughter yes, of course.
Black people are the pandas of this universe
The entire sequence is played as a joke about how demeaning is for cloud to do this, every single person who gives him a piece of the disguise is portrait as a weirdo, if you do the extra details you are selected which leads to : Don tried to rape him and a after that a "look, it was a dude all along" which .... is one of the worst transphobic cliches ever made (see Ace Ventura/Family Guy).
There are ways which this entire scene can work on a non offensive level, but I don't trust japanese game developers to do it considering how japan STILL sees homosexuality, transexuality and women.
Don't think so.
The wig comes from a strong, female gym owner/boxer? Nothing off about her.
After dressing as a girl the player can no longer go in, and after the events in Don Corneo's mansion the Honey Bee Inn owners no longer let the player enter, deeming Cloud "too weird" of having heard of his crossdressing habits.
Well I mean, context is important. This game came out twenty years ago where the social climate towards LGBT was vastly different. Holding it to a modern standard is ridiculous.
But beyond that and having just replayed it, there are definitely problematic aspects; but I fail to see how a heterosexual male being forced to dress up for a male pimp and being incredibly uncomfortable doing so, is transphobic or homophobic.
I hope they don't get too PC with Barrett. He was great!
Considering the language they could have chosen to use, that's pretty freakin mild.The wig comes from a muscled drag queen that ask you to a squat competition.
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Considering the language they could have chosen to use, that's pretty freakin mild.
And again, this was 1996. Cross-dressing was (sadly) strictly considered funny and/or weird.
Games don't get praised for diversity. When it comes to diversity, games are either demonized or ignored.
I know Barrett was just a bad stereotype through most of the game. But damn man, he was one of my favourite characters. The realest out of the lot
It depends on how well they handle the writing and localization, quality voice acting (and direction!).
I don't know if it was "ebonics" but it was notably different than other characters:
Also, while I'm looking:
I don't believe people of this age think they invented diversity in media. Caring about diversity in media has been going back for a while now, not just this generation. Especially from the 70s onwards, when media studies became popular. Thanks to the internet, the voices are louder so it seems that everyone has their say about diversity and representation.You ever get the impression that our age is under the self-delusion that it invented diversity in media?
You can go back to the 90s, 80s, 70s and even 60s and find examples of media co-starring blacks and whites and Asians and both genders.... but today when they put an ethnically diverse cast in something, everyone pats themselves on the back for being so progressive.
The goal is admirable, but we're so cloying in our approach to this topic.
We can describe every game since.... forever like that.So we have racial stereotype Barret and titty mc tittersdaughter Tifa. Plus some white guys and girls. Yeah, I don't really think so.
We can describe every game since.... forever like that.