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Overwatch Mafia |OT| Keep Your Vote On The Payload

Verelios

Member
Why the hell wouldn't I? Day 1 has a lot of unnecessary deaths and sometimes important PR get hit. What's your problem with me using it
 
Unexpected stuff.

Rage is also Windowmaker. And Rage is also on Ouro's a scum list.

V is giving us a solution to why no one died on N1. However, such a power is best saved.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
If he had the ability to "exclude" me, that would mean I would be able to be killed at night, i.e., by mafia. So yes, he has basically confirmed me as town. Thanks, Verelios.
 

Verelios

Member
If he had the ability to "exclude" me, that would mean I would be able to be killed at night, i.e., by mafia. So yes, he has basically confirmed me as town. Thanks, Verelios.
What kind of play are you enacting? I specifically posted if it was possible, which means it wasn't. Everyone gets shielded or no one, that's it. I full claimed.

Now go ahead Ouro, full claim as cop.
 

franconp

Member
You really gonna make me claim? Really, over this? Fine, okay.

I swear, Ya'll are some of the most ungrateful people I've ever played with. I'm Lucio, once per game I'm able to bulletproof everybody for the night with a soundwave. You're motherfucking welcome

Oh, and good luck with that bullshit cop claim Ouro, especially since one, you called it 'sorian-ified' and two, breadcrumbed your power and it probably has shit all to do with investigation.

So you used your power and are now a normal townie? I'm willing to take the bet then as we don't put our PR at risk.

If you die and flip town we lynch Ouro.
If you die and flip scum we lynch Eze.

It's a win-win situation either way.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Verelios, I expected more. Tell Zeke and Ty4on to help you out a bit more, ok? Maybe they can convince the rest. Or Barry - he's a good lad.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
So you used your power and are now a normal townie? I'm willing to take the bet then as we don't put our PR at risk.

If you die and flip town we lynch Ouro.
If you die and flip scum we lynch Eze.

It's a win-win situation either way.

I am totally fine with this plan.
 

RetroMG

Member
Current vote count, as Sorian is... I dunno, at a piano concert? Weird. Weird and lame.

Verelios (6)
Ourobolus 1137
Bronx-man 1224
*Splinter 1283
Franconp 1291
AbsolutBro 1292
Melonrabbit 1317

*Splinter (1)
cabot 1149

Absolutbro (1)
Burbeting 1234

Mazre (1)
Haly 1249

Bronx-man (1)
Kingkitty 1251

EzekelRAGE (1)
Barrylocke 1255

Ourobolus (1)
EzekelRAGE 1296

Kyanrute (0)
Melonrabbit 1140

If there are errors, please blame Sorian for not using the vote count tool, and let me know privately.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Yeah, I know. I just wish to hear all sides of the story so I can determine who is lying. Right now it seems the clear course of action is to lynch Verelios to verify yours or Ezekel's claim tho.

Again, I am fine with that. If Verelios turns out to be town, feel free to lynch me. a 1-for-1 trade benefits town (if for some reason you think I am scum).
 
just food for thought, Reaper would fit the bill for an executioner type role. It is possible.

That being said, I trust Ouro more than I trust Zeke at this point.

Zeke, if you are Widowmaker, what is your power?
 
Still on mobile. But will still go into detail about Ouro.

I have come out as widowmaker and the only response to it Ouro had was "lawl you put town " not lynch him since he can't be wm. He hasn't disputed my wm claim once. He is willing to do a 1 for 1 if vere flips town and dies the next day. If both me and vere are scum and I'm lying about being wm why won't he offer up himself to be lynched. Proving me wrong and as scum.

He isn't cop because he wouldn't have lied in the first place about who he was.
 

Sophia

Member
Still on mobile. But will still go into detail about Ouro.

I have come out as widowmaker and the only response to it Ouro had was "lawl you put town " not lynch him since he can't be wm. He hasn't disputed my wm claim once. He is willing to do a 1 for 1 if vere flips town and dies the next day. If both me and vere are scum and I'm lying about being wm why won't he offer up himself to be lynched. Proving me wrong and as scum.

He isn't cop because he wouldn't have lied in the first place about who he was.

He did dispute your Widowmaker claim, actually. Unless I have a different definition of dispute than you. Mind you, it was very weak, and basically accusing you of protecting your scum buddy. At the same time if you were scum I can't imagine you'd counterclaim like that...

Anyhow... Do you think Verelios is lying? Did you investigate anyone last night? What's your command?
 
I thought you were a better player than this
Multiple times a townie has lied about their role and then actually claimed later (look at LaunchpadMcQ in Gafia 2 as an example of this)


That is true in a regular game but this is role madness with a specific number of characters unless he wants to hide something he has no reason to lie about his character.
 
That is true in a regular game but this is role madness with a specific number of characters unless he wants to hide something he has no reason to lie about his character.
Here's the issue.
The power that Verelios claims to have is an extremely safe claim because it involves his ultimate, one of the first things to come to mind when you think about Lucio.
But there are other possibilites for what Lucio could be.
For example, he could use his Sonic Amplifier to disrupt people and act as a Scum Roleblocker.
Also, in a role madness game, using a 1shotallBP before any protective roles have died is quite suspect
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Still on mobile. But will still go into detail about Ouro.

I have come out as widowmaker and the only response to it Ouro had was "lawl you put town " not lynch him since he can't be wm. He hasn't disputed my wm claim once. He is willing to do a 1 for 1 if vere flips town and dies the next day. If both me and vere are scum and I'm lying about being wm why won't he offer up himself to be lynched. Proving me wrong and as scum.

He isn't cop because he wouldn't have lied in the first place about who he was.


That is true in a regular game but this is role madness with a specific number of characters unless he wants to hide something he has no reason to lie about his character.

You're right, I have no reason to lie about my character. So why are you falsely claiming WM?
 
At this point my guess is that Verelios is an important scum power and Zeke is trying to protect it at any cost.
Funny thing
I actually think you might be lying and are the neutral, but Verelios's reaction and claim is much more unsettling to me, and you as a neutral might have a detective power.
 

Sophia

Member
At this point my guess is that Verelios is an important scum power and Zeke is trying to protect it at any cost.

Why would scum Ezekel put himself on the chopping block for the follow day phase to protect a scum Verelios that's going to die regardless now? We have to test your claim either way.
 
He did dispute your Widowmaker claim, actually. Unless I have a different definition of dispute than you. Mind you, it was very weak, and basically accusing you of protecting your scum buddy. At the same time if you were scum I can't imagine you'd counterclaim like that...

Anyhow... Do you think Verelios is lying? Did you investigate anyone last night? What's your command?
He didn't dispute my wm claim, until just now after I brought it up. He went hard against vere because vere tried to lynch him. Nothing else. I, who am also on his scum list counter claim him which should be a big red flag for him to come after me, but he barely mentioned it. Idk about vere. There being no kills and him using his ability being the reason makes sense. The use of his ability n1 is questionable.

Here's the issue.
The power that Verelios claims to have is an extremely safe claim because it involves his ultimate, one of the first things to come to mind when you think about Lucio.
But there are other possibilites for what Lucio could be.
For example, he could use his Sonic Amplifier to disrupt people and act as a Scum Roleblocker.
Also, in a role madness game, using a 1shotallBP before any protective roles have died is quite suspect
Can you explain why Ouro would lie about his character? You tried to defend Ouro saying cops lie about their role all the time. You are right but he has no reason to lie about his character.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Funny thing
I actually think you might be lying and are the neutral, but Verelios's reaction and claim is much more unsettling to me, and you as a neutral might have a detective power.

lol, no. town all the way here.

Why would scum Ezekel put himself on the chopping block for the follow day phase to protect a scum Verelios that's going to die regardless now? We have to test your claim either way.

i don't know. it's a little weird that he's sticking his neck out for another player this much. I don't see the benefit - but then again, I've played mafia with cabot before, so dumb plays are pretty standard.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
He didn't dispute my wm claim, until just now after I brought it up. He went hard against vere because vere tried to lynch him. Nothing else. I, who am also on his scum list counter claim him which should be a big red flag for him to come after me, but he barely mentioned it. Idk about vere. There being no kills and him using his ability being the reason makes sense. The use of his ability n1 is questionable.


Can you explain why Ouro would lie about his character? You tried to defend Ouro saying cops lie about their role all the time. You are right but he has no reason to lie about his character.

I went hard on Verelios because of the way he tried to lynch me.
Why are you so keen on protecting him?
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I think I know what happened last night so Verelios is probably making it up.

Vote: Verelios
 

Sophia

Member
Can we please not push the Verelios vote, just yet? Yes, we're going to lynch him today, but I wish to ask more questions and I can't quite do it in the middle of FFXIV. :\
 
jesus christ

fine, i'm the goddamn cop

are you happy now

does claiming make it better?

I went hard on Verelios because of the way he tried to lynch me.
Why are you so keen on protecting him?
At first he says he is a cop then says the reason he went after vere is cuz of vere tryin to lynch him. Not that he got a red ck

I'm not protectin vere I know you are lying about your character so there is another motive for u at pkay
 

Ourobolus

Banned
At first he says he is a cop then says the reason he went after vere is cuz of vere tryin to lynch him. Not that he got a red ck

I'm not protectin vere I know you are lying about your character so there is another motive for u at pkay

I've been going after Verelios since D1.

Try again.
 
Can you explain why Ouro would lie about his character? You tried to defend Ouro saying cops lie about their role all the time. You are right but he has no reason to lie about his character.
Well, if he's a neutral with a win condition that involves killing/otherwise getting rid of certain roles/people, he could side with Town for a time to achieve his own goals (Damon Gant ring a bell?)
While that might make him dangerous, I'm much less sure of this than I am of Verelios going all over the place

lol, no. town all the way here.
Again, forgive me that I'm not taking your word as gospel.
 
Ouro are you willing to be lynched today to prove me and vere scum?
You flip as widow town goes for me since I am scum. Then I flip scum I obviously did this fake claim to save vere do he dies as well. You game to prove u are widow?
 
Ouro are you willing to be lynched today to prove me and vere scum?
You flip as widow town goes for me since I am scum. Then I flip scum I obviously did this fake claim to save vere do he dies as well. You game to prove u are widow?
There's an old saying
"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Ouro are you willing to be lynched today to prove me and vere scum?
You flip as widow town goes for me since I am scum. Then I flip scum I obviously did this fake claim to save vere do he dies as well. You game to prove u are widow?

How does my flip solve anything? I flip town and then...what?

No, Verelios has to go first. If I am wrong, like I said, feel free to shoot me tonight or lynch me tomorrow.
 
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