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The Wrap: JJ Abrams' 'God Particle' to be next in 'Cloverfield' anthology

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Cuburt

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"shared universe"

Yeah, ok.

I have no problem with the anthology approach now that it's out in the open and I liked both films but this idea of a shared universe is the most bullshit of all.

They aren't connected, they might have a couple easter eggs that fans will obsess over and given their embracing of ARG web stuff, I'm sure they'll keep feeding fan theories for years and mysteries that lead nowhere. That's fine if you like stuff like Lost but I really don't care about how these films are supposedly connected, I'll just take it as an anthology series and that's it.
 

Akahige

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So they are changing the name?

Slightly tough to market it under the Cloverfield brand with it's current title.
 
So they are changing the name?

Slightly tough to market it under the Cloverfield brand with it's current title.

Presumably. 10 Cloverfield Lane was talked about as "Valencia" before the first trailer.

Honestly, it seems wierd they'd do this a second time. 10 Cloverfield Lane was crazy because nobody expected a Cloverfield sequel. Doing it again feels... redundant?
 

caliph95

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"shared universe"

Yeah, ok.

I have no problem with the anthology approach now that it's out in the open and I liked both films but this idea of a shared universe is the most bullshit of all.

They aren't connected, they might have a couple easter eggs that fans will obsess over and given their embracing of ARG web stuff, I'm sure they'll keep feeding fan theories for years and mysteries that lead nowhere. That's fine if you like stuff like Lost but I really don't care about how these films are supposedly connected, I'll just take it as an anthology series and that's it.
I'm betting the universe it just some marketing nonsense . Honestly as long the movies are as god as !0 Cloverfied Lane who gives a shit. As long as it doesn't shit the bed because though i haven't seen cloverfield the last third seems to be a thing they had to to appeal to cloverfield fans.
 
Presumably. 10 Cloverfield Lane was talked about as "Valencia" before the first trailer.

Honestly, it seems wierd they'd do this a second time. 10 Cloverfield Lane was crazy because nobody expected a Cloverfield sequel. Doing it again feels... redundant?
It's not a sequel and neither was 10 Cloverfield lane
 

midramble

Pizza, Bourbon, and Thanos
Awesome. Finally watched lane (literally just now). Was great. Though the pacing of the very end felt misplaced, it's not too far from the original script. The original ending would have fit the rhythm perfectly while still technically having a tie in but would only have had a few seconds of aliens before smashing to black which would have made cloverfield fans angry about "not enough aliens".

Feel like the ending was balanced enough.

I'd also love to see more Michelle as a new Ripley, but that's probably not for best.

Anthology would be killer. Slusho as the SCP foundation.
 
I'd love for some more direct cloverfield connections. I remember an Abrams interview where he said they had some really nuts ideas to bring it all together, I hope this is more than.

I love dumb shared universe stuff and really really enjoyed Cloverfield and the universe around it.
 
10 CL was entertaining but I really want a CF sequel.

still love this new anthonlogy. Well attended Sci-fi at the boxoffice = great for more.
 

adj_noun

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Presumably. 10 Cloverfield Lane was talked about as "Valencia" before the first trailer.

Honestly, it seems wierd they'd do this a second time. 10 Cloverfield Lane was crazy because nobody expected a Cloverfield sequel. Doing it again feels... redundant?

Think of this as the third episode in a cinematic anthology series called Cloverfield.
 

Metalmarc

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This is the film that explains the scientists that open the portal where all these monsters come from.


HP Lovecraft am cry.

Talking of Portals, I thought JJ was working on a live action movie of that game Portal

Wonder if God Particle is Actually Portal The Movie & JJ is just trying to throw people of the scent, meanwhile The Next Cloverfield film is being made elsewhere, completley different to God Particle.
 

Arkeband

Banned
Just give me my dam cloverfield sequel

That would be called every nuclear fallout movie ever made.

The story was told, accept the anthology approach.

Imagine if Black Mirror decided to somehow tie them al together. Fuck that, leave the connections to Slusho/Tagruato Easter eggs.
 
Yeah this has been the theory since at least January. Glad it's finally confirmed!

The original script for God Particle is out there by the way. I expect massive changes if they're going to tie it into the Cloverfield anthology.
 

DeathyBoy

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But how was 10 Cloverfield lane tied to Cloverfield in the first place? I really did like the movie but the last 20 minutes it jumped the shark. Kind of wish it kept you guessing instead of revealing everything.

People keep saying this but it doesn't make it true.
 

pottuvoi

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The only way these movies are connected is that you'll keep giving them money for having the word "Cloverfield" in the title, so they'll keep slapping the Cloverfield name on these movies that have nothing to do with each other.

And it'll work too.

1. Find script with some sort of vague mystery.
2. Say it's "part of the Cloverfield universe"
3. Profit
Well, if this means that we get better version of Half Life movie then it's fine.
 
I just want another Cloverfield monster movie.

I wonder if they'll ever do another. I expect one of the biggest reasons a sequel never happened was because they didn't know how to follow it up, but I'd also really like another monster movie. Ignoring the characters, I really loved it and I thought it was an intense and interesting entry into the genre.
 
The only way these movies are connected is that you'll keep giving them money for having the word "Cloverfield" in the title, so they'll keep slapping the Cloverfield name on these movies that have nothing to do with each other.

And it'll work too.

1. Find script with some sort of vague mystery.
2. Say it's "part of the Cloverfield universe"
3. Profit

Except 10 Cloverfield Lane bombed so there goes that theory
 

daviyoung

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Think of this as the third episode in a cinematic anthology series called Cloverfield.

Where the first instalment is self titled. Like a Twilight Zone episode called The Twilight Zone. Not buying this 'anthology' excuse at all, it's as retro fitted as adding Cloverfield to an unrelated script. Either they are connected stories in a cinematic universe or they are a thematically or spiritually connected collection of stories in an anthology. You are saying this is both.
 

WillyFive

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The worst parts of Cloverfield Lane were the areas where you could see things hastily reshuffled to fit the Cloverfield rebranding.

This plan of his shouldn't inspire hope in anyone.

The worst part was when they made it so that it did *not* fit in the Cloverfield universe, the script seemed like it was perfectly made to work with the previous movie but it seemed like they changed the ending to be about generic aliens instead.
 
Will the characters be reasonably sympathetic like the girl in Lane, or the most disgustingly self-absorbed shitheads you've ever desperately wanted to see eaten by a giant monster, like in Cloverfield?
 

DeathyBoy

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Where the first instalment is self titled. Like a Twilight Zone episode called The Twilight Zone. Not buying this 'anthology' excuse at all, it's as retro fitted as adding Cloverfield to an unrelated script. Either they are connected stories in a cinematic universe or they are a thematically or spiritually connected collection of stories in an anthology. You are saying this is both.

It can be both.

Anthology shows don't set all their episodes on the same Earth, so why are you getting angry Cloverfield has multiple universes?
 

TrutaS

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I liked both, so will keep coming back if quality keeps up. Since it will be annualised, quality will surely take a step back and then I'll stop caring. Business as usual.
 

Tall4Life

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I'm wondering if this movie was originally something else but the execs forced it to be a Cloverfield movie, like 10 Cloverfield Lane.
 

Donos

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I'm wondering if this movie was originally something else but the execs forced it to be a Cloverfield movie, like 10 Cloverfield Lane.

It was.

That’s not the way 10 Cloverfield Lane was originally going to end.

Before the thriller took on a title alluding to Abrams’ 2008 found footage monster movie Cloverfield, this project was called The Cellar. The end The Cellar’s spec script has Michelle escaping the bunker, then getting in Howard’s pickup truck, driving away, still seeing no signs of any kind of chemical or nuclear or alien attack. She drives toward Chicago, where her family is (or was). And then, in the final couple shots of the film, once she’s crested a hill, she sees Chicago, reduced to rubble.

Smash to black. Roll credits. No action sequence with aliens. No aliens or spaceships onscreen at all. No explanation of what destroyed Chicago.

http://www.hitfix.com/news/10-cloverfield-lane-director-explains-why-they-changed-the-movies-ending
 

daviyoung

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It can be both.

Anthology shows don't set all their episodes on the same Earth, so why are you getting angry Cloverfield has multiple universes?

No one is getting angry, grow up. And nothing you said indicates "it can be both" or contradicts me. If it's multiple universes it's not a shared universe.
 
Will the characters be reasonably sympathetic like the girl in Lane, or the most disgustingly self-absorbed shitheads you've ever desperately wanted to see eaten by a giant monster, like in Cloverfield?

Cloverfield depicts them as stereotypical new yorker millennials? They were obnoxious. I think the hand held aspect showed them in a light that made them more annoying than they had to be. think about it- you're watching it through a "first person shaky lens" so storytelling is difficult, and so they are reduced to talking heads; unrealistically saying their feelings and observations because it's difficult to express character development when you cannot cut to a close up of an actors face.

Birdman was absolutely incredible in this department because we saw how revolutionary blocking would have the perfect floating camera walking into the actors field of view in a natural way making it completely unnecessary for the actors to explain. Cloverfield formats as a monster movie where the terror comes from the shaking camera and sounds and distorted visuals doesn't lend itself well to a show-don't tell when it comes to the actors.
I think this is why the actors end up in cloverfield being all like "omg what is going on you guise?". Friends tell me that the spanish Zombie movie REC is really well done and better realized than cloverfield with a similar "viewing it through a camera" style of storytelling, but i've not seen that film.



I like Cloverfield. I remember the marketing coming out from it. No trailers, no build up. you just went to see it because it was JJ abrams. It was cloverfield that made me not want to watch trailers for films. It made me remember the fun of going into a film completely blind. Half the time I can predict how a movie ends by just watching the trailer, so Cloverfield as an experience has really made me happy. But I won't disagree that Cloverfield doesn't have problems.

10 Cloverfield, even with the outragous action ending was a nice ride. It was the sort of ending you'd see in a Danny Boyle movie like Sunshine or 28 Days Later. The movie has this theme and style and tone, and then the ending just goes off the rails. There is something to like and hate about such a violent shift in tone.
I do think the ending became a bit too much war of the worlds / prometheus / the hobbit, where the hero just escapes the CGI fear in the last second. Sometimes it just is not that exciting.
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
No one is getting angry, grow up. And nothing you said indicates "it can be both" or contradicts me. If it's multiple universes it's not a shared universe.

Shared multiverse then. And I'm glad you're not angry or telling people to grow up angrily. That'd be hostile.
 

daviyoung

Banned
Shared multiverse then. And I'm glad you're not angry or telling people to grow up angrily. That'd be hostile.

That's your interpretation, some meta debate on my tone that's utterly irrelevant. A bit like your goal post moving interpretation of what this production is doing. Shared mulituniverses dilutes your point even further. Deploy Occams Razor and look at what we have in material goods at the moment, not what you hope we have.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Is it an Anthology if the stories are actually loosely connected? Wouldn't that just make it a series

Either way, I loved how 10 Cloverfield Lane kept me guessing, as if the title itself was playing with my expectations. Looking forward to more.
 

nekkid

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I'm still salty that 10 Cloverfield Lane was not a direct sequel but the movie was still great, I've accepted it as an anthology and can not wait for particle. I think it'd be neat if they did eventually make a film that makes sense of the connections.

I'd still LOVE to see an alternate story set in the OG Cloverfield timeline. But I do like the sci-fi anthology pattern.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
This dude is a fucking hack. All his original shit is pretentious rubbish.

Are you referring to JJ Abrams, the man who hasn't written or directed any of the films in this series?
 
The company that owns Slusho is featured in both movies. In Cloverfield, they're responsible for waking up Clovie. In 10CL, Goodman's character worked for them in their satellite monitoring division and clearly they knew about aliens.

The current fan theory is that all the movies in the Cloverfield anthology series will be connected via the Slusho company. Each movie is a different timeline but Slusho is always responsible for some kind of sci-fi fuck up.

If God Particle is about alternate dimensions, I wonder if that theory will be proven true?

Its gonna be like DOOM 2016, Slusho opens a facility on Mars and secretly opens portals to hell in order to frack their hell energy to create unlimited quantities of Slusho CODE RED(tm). Thus solving world hunger. But things go awry and now only alternate-alternate universe John Goodman can squeeze his ass into some power armor and kill all the carbonated horrors that await him.
 
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