Futurevoid
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Contract talks going nowhere. 15 million franchise tag a possibility - they just went for the pick now.
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NFL 2016 Week 8 |OT| - Plays of the Week
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Contract talks going nowhere. 15 million franchise tag a possibility - they just went for the pick now.
Future Foundation
Member
How many prime time games have the Bears had so far? Three? Four? It feels like it's been a few too many for a team with one win so far.
yankeehater
Member
Clearly Bill thinks whatever new cheating system that he came up with this year is so good that he doesnt need players to run it.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Ok but they are trying to win a superbowl this year...
How many division titles and Super Bowls the last 15 years? Everyon laughs and makes jokes when Bill does things like this but he just continues to win. I wish the some other team.....cough Texans would start to copy that blueprint
yankeehater
Member
Man the media is so quick to try and coverup for any possible mistake that the cheat might make.
Same, the dink and dunk is boring to watch but it was working. Then the 4th quarter happen and he didn't adapt or take the risks he has been taking the rest of the season. He blew it in the 4th
Futurevoid
Member
Not saying I agree or disagree. Just extrapolating the thinking behind it.
Also, considering the utter logjam of garbo teams in the league - its not as though the sledding will be /that/ tough for the Pats to get to the Super Bowl this season.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Belichick trading proven players for busts.
In all seriousness we're probably going to hear shit about him missing meeting or refusing special teams work. Still, With GM's Bill's 3rd round track record he should have held on tight and never let go.
In all seriousness we're probably going to hear shit about him missing meeting or refusing special teams work. Still, With GM's Bill's 3rd round track record he should have held on tight and never let go.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Not saying I agree or disagree. Just extrapolating the thinking behind it.
Also, considering the utter logjam of garbo teams in the league - its not as though the sledding will be /that/ tough for the Pats to get to the Super Bowl this season.
Yeah if the Super Bowl was held today, the Patriots would win it all.
Our only hope (same hope as every year) is for the 16 game slog to wear them down and the pressure of the playoffs finally overcoming them.
I posted that article last week about defensive players and how little impact it had in losing a starter to injury. Belichick has been clear since Seymour that he won't give big extensions to defensive players. It works for him though I think he has cost himself a SB or two along the way with some of his trades
Lombardi is a BB sycophant.
Lombardi is a BB sycophant.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
You mean the "we play in a division where the other three teams can't get their heads out of their asses" blueprint? Belichick is a genius for that one.
Asterisks would have 5 Asterisks right now if they had some semblance of a defense in 2011.
Lombardi was just talking about how frustrating Collins was last week, he's been on this.
FloydtheFathead
Member
So.. we did something good.
If we can get an extension done, then that might reduce the need for us to take a top LB in the Draft and can look at shoring up the secondary even further or look at possible Oline picks.
Please Sochi and company.. get a long term deal done and I will be happy.
We have the money.. hopefully he likes playing with Ray Horton?
If we can get an extension done, then that might reduce the need for us to take a top LB in the Draft and can look at shoring up the secondary even further or look at possible Oline picks.
Please Sochi and company.. get a long term deal done and I will be happy.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Collins will be dogshit on the Browns.
Mark this post and come back to it. I have spoken.
Grover Cleveland
Member
NFL's Response to Cam Newton Calling Them Out
Basically: Yes our refs suck, but they suck more for other guys!
Quality lawyer work at 345 Park
I actually agree with what Dungy said last night. It shouldn't be Cam Newton's responsibility to fight this battle. He is the most important player in the history of the Carolina Panthers as a franchise. The organization should be riding for him, if not even for him, but for the team as a whole. But no one is a bigger company man than Jerry Richardson (there's a reason the NFL Logo is still on the center of the field) and I think if he had to choose between his biggest investment and not rocking the boat with his fellow owners, I think he'd take the league's side and would direct his GM and coaches to do the same.
Basically: Yes our refs suck, but they suck more for other guys!
Quality lawyer work at 345 Park
I actually agree with what Dungy said last night. It shouldn't be Cam Newton's responsibility to fight this battle. He is the most important player in the history of the Carolina Panthers as a franchise. The organization should be riding for him, if not even for him, but for the team as a whole. But no one is a bigger company man than Jerry Richardson (there's a reason the NFL Logo is still on the center of the field) and I think if he had to choose between his biggest investment and not rocking the boat with his fellow owners, I think he'd take the league's side and would direct his GM and coaches to do the same.
Pretty much. It's funny that people slurp the Pats when they start the season with the division already won.
Pats are only in the playoffs every year because of their division record. Their record against teams out of division proves this.
FloydtheFathead
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Himynameischris
Member
Maybe Tannehill will start getting some calls
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Also squick, I saw that post about defensive injuries. But defenses are not like offenses - their effective comes from their play as a unit.
Collins was arguably the best player on the defense, especially after Jones was shipped off. How good will the unit be without Collins cleaning up from the middle?
Collins was arguably the best player on the defense, especially after Jones was shipped off. How good will the unit be without Collins cleaning up from the middle?
yankeehater
Member
If you really think it is jealousy after all these years then I dont know what to say to you. Cheating is easily the worst thing you can do in sports and the Pats have been caught numerous times now.
Brady record and he plays the division winners every fucking year lol
Afc north 23-5
Afc south 23-5
Afc west 17-11
In the past 15 years
Patriots world championships: 4
Eagles world championships: 0
Texans world championships: 4 via being family
I win
Easier to focus on those games when you can sleepwalk through six division games every year.
yankeehater
Member
Grover Cleveland
Member
"4 via being family"
:jnc
:jnc
DeaconKnowledge
Member
That's nice.
Asterisks have no competition in their division.
Let's go round the league, shall we?
AFC North
Steelers, Ravens, and Bengals all good.
South
Manning went uncontested for years (though the Jags did make noise at first). Finally the Colts are getting grief from the Texans
West
Broncos, Chargers have been trading dominance for over a decade,
NFC North
Packers have the Vikings and Bears
South
Falcons, Saints, and Panthers
East
All 4 have won the division in the last decade
West
Cardinals, Niners, and Seahawks al have claimed the division.
The Asterisks have a lot of out of division wins, to be sure. You make the playoffs by winning your division though, and they haven't been given any serious challenge by any team in their division in almost a decade.
The argument about defensive players was really just that teams can adapt to losses. Play more zone if a CB is out, or blitz more if a pass rusher is out. But if you lose a WR or LT, then it is much more difficult to use scheme to mask that loss.
I am a huge Watt fan, but I would trade him (healthy) every day of the week for Julio Jones or AJ Green. Watt was one of the 5 best defensive players of the last 30 years but it just doesn't matter like a really good WR does
yankeehater
Member
Jim Zorn is #1 right?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Nah it's
Seneca Wallace
LOL at Rap Sheet's tweet about most memorable moment for Andre Johnson that was him pummeling Cortland Finnegan's face for sweet justice.
Phil Simms gives me brain cancer and CTE simultaneously.
Phil Simms gives me brain cancer and CTE simultaneously.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Arkansas is probably playing in the "Ed's Septic Cleaning and Plumbing" bowl in the middle of December so no thanks.
Also sounds like you guys are going to pay way too much for him. When was the last guy to leave the Patriots and play really well or even better after he left?
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Still doesn't explain why they got rid of him. They would have gotten a comp pick if he walked.
Duxxy3
Member
I loved Collins while he was here, and I'm upset that we traded him. But he doesn't impact a game nearly the same way that Von Miller does.
This is why you're worst poster next to gata.
yankeehater
Member
Clearly the Pats are in rebuilding mode and are trying to stockpile picks for the future.
BlackGhost
Banned
He's ok with! Crisis adverted! Looks like I've officially done it.
Now they need to sign him quickly. I guess at worse they could franchise him and have 1.5 years to sign him. Need to lock up him and Pryor
Don't know how you can make this trade and not get the guy signed. Don't let me down sushi brown!
Ok. You know I'll come back to it if you wrong pleighboi!...... you didn't have to do this