This seems like a good deal if you want a 1070 and have a Micro Center near you. ASUS GeForce Strix GTX 1070 Overclocked 8GB GDDR5 PCIe Video Card w/ Aura RGB Lighting for $399. Normally $499.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!
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Diprosalic
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yeah sure man but i don't want to bottleneck it with an old cpu and slow RAM.
In my opinion you shouldn't buy a new component each month because technology advances very quickly. For instance, some new Intel CPUs are coming out next month and you could have just bought the latest one thinking that it was the best one.
Instead save some dollars each month (what you were willing to spend on the new computer parts for that month) and when you have enough to buy all the parts then spend it.
That way you are going to get the newest parts on the market.
You aren't bottlenecking a 1060 with that. You probably wouldn't even bottleneck a 1080.
Diprosalic
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I'll take a meager $100 as a consultation fee ;p
And yes, I suggest a 1070 over a 1060 any day.
JonnyDBrit
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Maybe get an extra stick of RAM, but yeah you'd be covered for most games at 1080p otherwise.
Been waiting for this to be released forever now. The only part that is holding me in order for me to complete my build so I can load up the OS on it
yeah I've got a loaner 120GB SATA SSD from a friend as my OS drive, and a cheapass 240GB I've been using as my games drive for a while.
I could just image my drive and copy it over but I want to reinstall on the 960 just so I can see how fast Windows 10 installs from a USB 3.1 flash drive to it.
This makes sense. Thanks for the advice.
I do agree with you on this, but with my luck, I'll have $2K saved up and something will happen and be force to use it out of necessity. However, I will take it into consideration. Thanks.
Dave_6
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This is my PC except its now running Win10: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/fwHxFT
I'm wanting to upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I first built it back in 2013 so the mobo is a little old and I'm not sure exactly what I need to get.
I'm wanting to upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I first built it back in 2013 so the mobo is a little old and I'm not sure exactly what I need to get.
DDR3-1600 RAM. Price has gone up a bit lately for some reason, but you can get some decent ones for around $80~.
Dave_6
Member
Thanks! Hoping that will help mine out some since I decided to hold off on upgrading the CPU and mobo.
Kabylake and Zen CPUs, Optane SSD, AMD VEGA and Nvidia Ti GPUs to name a few.
mikespit1200
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Does anyone have the link where you can select 2 GPU setups and compare benchmarks etc?
edit: specifically lookting to compare 970s in SLI vs 10 series cards
edit: specifically lookting to compare 970s in SLI vs 10 series cards
Shadowheart
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Should I go with an i7 7700k or save $100 and go with an i5?
My 7 year old CPU just gave up on life, so I was thinking of buying an i7 7700k next month to last me another 7 years. But watching videos and reading about it, I am told it is a waste of money and an i5 will be just fine for gaming and the occasional video edit.
I know nothing of overclocking and will only press the 'auto overclock' button on the mobo/GPU/CPU software package- if available. Benchmarks of actual gameplay I saw only had a few frames difference (5-10 frames).
And just for the lols, my current CPU is an i7 870. I got a 1070 and tried to play the new Doom and my CPU just said 'nope!' and turned off my machine.
My 7 year old CPU just gave up on life, so I was thinking of buying an i7 7700k next month to last me another 7 years. But watching videos and reading about it, I am told it is a waste of money and an i5 will be just fine for gaming and the occasional video edit.
I know nothing of overclocking and will only press the 'auto overclock' button on the mobo/GPU/CPU software package- if available. Benchmarks of actual gameplay I saw only had a few frames difference (5-10 frames).
And just for the lols, my current CPU is an i7 870. I got a 1070 and tried to play the new Doom and my CPU just said 'nope!' and turned off my machine.
as a current owner of SLI 970s please keep in mind that SLI support for recent games has been pretty terrible. Games like Gears 4 that promised multi-gpu support still don't have it, flickering in DX12 Hitman, no support in Titanfall 2 and others. I ran SLI for a while in 2014 and never had widespread issues like this. But I got the second card for cheap so whatever.
If you just like big benchmark numbers, I can break 19500 on 3DMark Fire Strike with my two 970s and a 6700k. Have a little more CPU/VRAM overclock headroom but that might get me over 20k and not more.
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever worth it.
SLI is only really good for achieving performance that is otherwise impossible with a single card. In every other situation, you're better served by selling your current card and upgrading to the most powerful single card that is reasonable for your budget.
EDIT: It was Chrome. Switching to Edge immediately stopped it, gonna try other browsers.
I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this, but does anyone else watch YouTube videos while playing games? I've recently wanted to do this but I notice it gives me a pretty bad performance hit in certain games. The framerate itself is a pretty big drop but not the end of the world (maybe 10-20 frames but we're still talking 60+ fps), the biggest problem is it presents pretty bad stutter.
Not sure if anyone has a solution but would really appreciate any help
I'm using Chrome as my browser, specs are i5 3570k, r9 390, and 16 gb of RAM.
I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this, but does anyone else watch YouTube videos while playing games? I've recently wanted to do this but I notice it gives me a pretty bad performance hit in certain games. The framerate itself is a pretty big drop but not the end of the world (maybe 10-20 frames but we're still talking 60+ fps), the biggest problem is it presents pretty bad stutter.
Not sure if anyone has a solution but would really appreciate any help
I'm using Chrome as my browser, specs are i5 3570k, r9 390, and 16 gb of RAM.
tea_and_crumpets
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If you are not going to overclock (and I recommend you do - its not very difficult, takes 10 mins), then I would recommend the i5 6600.
If you are willing to overclock get the 6600k model (the k means its unlocked). You will be able to clock the 6600k up to 4.2GHz easily and potentially up to 4.6Ghz dependent on your cooling. Either way, an i7 is overkill, you don't need it for gaming.
tea_and_crumpets
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Others might say different, but I would recommend paying extra for a brand you know and trust. $30 isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things, and certainly not worth the hassle if you have problems with the other RAM.
tea_and_crumpets
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Looking for a good 1440p gaming monitor, with decent response times and colours for under £300.
Please give me some recommendations. At the moment I'm leaning towards this BenQ IPS model although I'd actually like a slightly smaller screen and maybe a bit more responsive one (it claims 4ms GTG, but reviews I've read say this aint' the reality).
Please give me some recommendations. At the moment I'm leaning towards this BenQ IPS model although I'd actually like a slightly smaller screen and maybe a bit more responsive one (it claims 4ms GTG, but reviews I've read say this aint' the reality).
ndawgdrake
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The i7 is the better buy. The days of HT not being utilized in gaming are over. More and more new releases are taking advantage of >4 cores/threads.
I saw a 2600k outperforming a 6600k in GoW4.
opticalmace
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If you keep your CPU for a long time (as you seem to do) I would buy the i7. In fact, I did.
About Doom... sounds like a PSU problem. What PSU are you using? Did it hard shut-off?
i3allistic
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argh, that what im thinking too ....gonna swap it out i guess
I'd really suggest getting one with a better refresh rate, and either Freesync or G-Sync based on your GPU.
I dont know if you've had an IPS monitor before, but they're pretty overrated for gaming. IPS has *awful* blacks, which you can always notice. Color uniformity is not something that is really noticeable during gameplay.
VA is where it's at, but the pickings are slim right now.
Looks like the cheap 1440p G-Sync option (Dell S27) is pretty expensive in the UK.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&H=120,240&sort=a8&page=1
Being able to sync framerate at 1440p plus avoiding the grossness that is 60Hz is really worth it.
Shadowheart
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PSU is brand new (EVGA 850 watt Platinum). Yes, it abruptly shut down the system, then the system goes into a loop of booting then shutting down again. My CPU also runs hot (high 90's). New GPU and PSU: I am hoping it is the CPU that is faulty.
Yeah, it does sound like the motherboard shutting itself down to prevent overheating. Have you checked to make sure the CPU cooler is properly secured?
Yeah, that's really bad. Sounds like your heatsink isn't attached properly.
opticalmace
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Are you overclocking? What cooler are you using? When was the last time you cleaned out the heatsink and reapplied thermal paste?
Sounds like it's just overheating (the CPU).
Need some troubleshooting help. Just built my new PC, plugged in everything correctly and hit the power. The PC turns on, all fans spin (including the GPU) but 5 seconds later everything shuts down and restarts, this time without the GPU. The is no picture on the display during the entire process. Any ideas where to start checking?
Edit: Should probably add, everything is new except for my SSD and HDD. I didn't reformat the drives prior to the build, could that have anything to do with the problem?
Edit: Should probably add, everything is new except for my SSD and HDD. I didn't reformat the drives prior to the build, could that have anything to do with the problem?
Bloodember
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Clear the bios and make sure the ram is seated, it takes some pressure to snap them in.
As for your edit, no. When you get it to boot just do a windows reset to reinstall windows and keep your files, if you want.
crap monkey
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So my RX 480 came with 5 outputs, unfortunately 3 of them are display ports. I have two monitors and a tv, none of them have display port inputs. Right now I've got one monitor hooked up through HDMI and the other hooked up with DVI. My TV is the only one not hooked up. What are my best options here? My TV has an HDMI and a VGA port available. HDM-> Display port adapters a thing? Are they any good? Are there other options I can pursue?
You can get DisplayPort to HDMI adaptors.
It was the ram. As soon as I read your post I knew that was the issue, just had to click it in. Thanks for your quick reply!
So it saying it could have difficulties - doesn't mean anything?
Not trying to be stupid - I'm not familiar with reading technical programs like this one.
Also ran the "In Depth Latency Tests" program that was also downloaded with the latency monitor program, ran it and gave me these results. Do you think the CPU might need to be replaced?
REPORT
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In Depth Latency Tests has been analyzing your system for 0:07:11 (h:mm:ss) on all processors in the system.
Test performed: Tight Loop Latency Test at HIGH_LEVEL IRQL
Tight Loop Latency Test at HIGH_LEVEL IRQL: measure SMIs and CPU stalls. Run test with all maskable interrupts disabled.
NOTE: SMIs that are initiated by software have not been measuded.
Highest latency measured: 118.35613 µs
This value reflects the highest measured interruption interval of a tight loop spinning at HIGH_LEVEL interrupt request level.
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PER CPU MEASURINGS
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Highest latency on CPU 0: 73.64381 µs
Highest latency on CPU 1: 81.82646 µs
Highest latency on CPU 2: 118.35613 µs
Highest latency on CPU 3: 80.65751 µs
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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: DESKTOP-EB7DMB2
OS version: Windows 8 , 6.2, build: 9200Highest latency on CPU 3: 80.65751 µs
Hardware: Z170N-Gaming 5, Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Logical processors: 4
Processor groups: 1
RAM: 16333 MB total
It's because that bottom bar showing the page fault, always ends up high.
It's the top 2 bars that are important, they shouldn't run into the red at any point.
The highest point was 500us which is ok.
You can get more details in one of the tabs and sort by execution time.
The CPU is so rare to be a problem, impossible to say that replacing it could help.
Alright well I really appreciate your help. Thanks.
Got laid off so I'll have a lot of time to mess around with it this week. Will update if I manage to fix it.
Hey guys, I was thinking about building another gaming HTPC for my birthday, this time for the TV in my living room. My mom owns this Samsung Smart TV:
I thought it would be perfect for a budget 4K gaming/media streaming HTPC. I was going for the Gigabyte motherboard with wi-fi antennas since the Gigabyte motherboard (and the graphics card) for the 2nd PC that I had built was solid. However, I was wondering about how the antennas are reliable for Wi-Fi. I also thought about getting an RX 470 8GB for 4K gaming, but I am not sure if 8GB or VRAM is necessary for 4K gaming. Another concern I have is the PSU for the build. Are Silverstone's PSUs any good for their cases?
Here are the parts that I plan to get for my birthday.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 470 8GB Gaming X Video Card ($229.89 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone RVZ02B HTPC Case ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Plus Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $808.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-09 18:02 EST-0500
Any feedback and suggestions for this build are strongly welcome as always.
I thought it would be perfect for a budget 4K gaming/media streaming HTPC. I was going for the Gigabyte motherboard with wi-fi antennas since the Gigabyte motherboard (and the graphics card) for the 2nd PC that I had built was solid. However, I was wondering about how the antennas are reliable for Wi-Fi. I also thought about getting an RX 470 8GB for 4K gaming, but I am not sure if 8GB or VRAM is necessary for 4K gaming. Another concern I have is the PSU for the build. Are Silverstone's PSUs any good for their cases?
Here are the parts that I plan to get for my birthday.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($97.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 470 8GB Gaming X Video Card ($229.89 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone RVZ02B HTPC Case ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Logitech K400 Plus Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $808.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-09 18:02 EST-0500
Any feedback and suggestions for this build are strongly welcome as always.
chaosblade
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Kaby appears to be exactly what it was expected to be, a refresh. Any performance difference between it and Skylake is within margin of error. It does appear to be a bit more power efficient though. Not disappointed with my decision to jump in with Skylake.
Used Team in my brother's build and it has worked fine for the last few years.
Used Team in my brother's build and it has worked fine for the last few years.
I think you should go for either a stronger Haswell cpu or a Skylake CPU, but still a cheaper motherboard. I have a similar build atm with an rx 470 + i5 4440 and I seem to be craving a bit more cpu power for some games like Deus Ex MD. Since I upgraded to this Gpu, it seems that my build has become more cpu-limited.
opticalmace
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What's your budget? You should 100% go for skylake, not haswell, at this point. I'll suggest some components after knowing your budget.
Also what games are you playing? You'll have to make compromises at 4k but if you're not too picky (or play slightly older titles) you can definitely have a good time.
I got a relative of the motherboard for my PC, the Wifi antenna included should be good and has bluetooth for wireless controllerss. If worst comes to worst, you can always attach a large high-gain antenna(s) to the PC As for the GPU, you'll want the 8GB card for playing newer games with the best textures.
Try this (upgrade to a Z170 chipset if you want to boost the turbo frequencies and get a speed bonus out of it??? does that even work?):
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