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Pokémon Sun & Moon |OT| Ultra Beasts and where to find them

Wiseblade

Member
God Dammit. I faced Tapu Koko after game and killed it. I could have reset the game but I didn't want to face the champion again. I'll just have to beat the E4 and champion again another time to get another crack at it.
You won't need to beat the Elite 4 again, just go back to the shrine whenever you like.
 

Breads

Banned
Caught a HA Absol.

Now the breeding commences!

What? I had no idea Absols could be found in SOS. Which do you think is faster for a shiny absol, sos or breeding?

(I have a foreign ditto and shiny charm)

I only just realized that Disable has been 100% accuracy for years now.

That's really dumb.


Malendit claims another victim, thank god I'm not alone.

I did that, lol. Because I was told ahead of time about the harem thing I assumed all salandit were female. Didnt even bother looking at the gender thing.
 
Man, the Tapu Koko thing was mean.

I just KO'd it, thinking it was like the AZ battle or rival battle in XYORAS.

Didn't know you could catch it then and there. Good thing they give you another chance.
 

Berordn

Member
Man, the Tapu Koko thing was mean.

I just KO'd it, thinking it was like the AZ battle or rival battle in XYORAS.

Didn't know you could catch it then and there. Good thing they give you another chance.

It basically is the AZ battle, since it's a bit of a story capstone as they acknowledge
Nebby
if you have him with you. Being able to catch it is kind of irrelevant since you're basically set up to fail if you didn't go through the entire E4 with it in mind.
 

emb

Member
Man, the Tapu Koko thing was mean.

I just KO'd it, thinking it was like the AZ battle or rival battle in XYORAS.

Didn't know you could catch it then and there. Good thing they give you another chance.
I was really worried that I would have to catch it then, or miss out on it. I'd want to get a decent one too, so that would mean going through that last battle again and all the cutscene stuff leading up to it.
 

Busaiku

Member
I still don't get why Pikachu doesn't learn Iron Tail naturally.
It's one of its signature moves, Ash's one knows it, Red's knows it in Heart Gold and Black 2, it's in Generations.
 
Thanks a lot!

Just to be clear... I'm not sure what the other person was talking about.

I would assume that a 237 hp with 132 in all other stats is a 6 iv ditto in everything. It doesn't have any effort values (raised either through battling, or on isle evelup through poke pelago), so it's stats could be a little higher, but for breeding at least, that's maxed out.
 
Just to be clear... I'm not sure what the other person was talking about.

I would assume that a 237 hp with 132 in all other stats is a 6 iv ditto in everything. It doesn't have any effort values (raised either through battling, or on isle evelup through poke pelago), so it's stats could be a little higher, but for breeding at least, that's maxed out.

Okay, so it's good. Lol, I was about to trade it for something else. Guess I need to read up more on IVs and such.
 
Okay, so it's good. Lol, I was about to trade it for something else. Guess I need to read up more on IVs and such.

Yeah, do not do that I guess.

Don't worry about reading up on them, really. They can be summarised in a paragraph.

They're basically a random number (from 0 to 31) each pokemon has for each stat. For most wild pokemon, you can't affect these directly. I think that the new SOS battle feature spawns better pokemon the longer you keep the chain going. Once you're in the postgame you actually get a graph feature in your pc from the battle area in these games that shows you the iv values your pokemon has. The only important thing is that when you breed a pokemon, 3 of the iv values are taken randomly from the parents. 5 if one of them is holding the item "Destiny knot".

Essentially all you need to know is that using a high stat ditto, like that one, is the easiest way to get higher stat pokemon for all the kinds that can lay eggs. Which, unless you get in to competitive battling, probably isn't actually something that'll make a lot of difference to your game!
 

jelmerjt

Member
Does anyone have a Pokemon with PokeRUS? I can offer a Mareanie or a Mimikyu.

Mareanie has Regenerator, is female, has all four egg moves and comes in a Beast Ball. Bold nature, 5 IVs ("Decent" Attack).

Mimikyu is also female, also has all four egg moves and comes in a Love Ball. Jolly nature, 5 IVs ("Decent" Special Attack).
 

L.O.R.D

Member
i am really tired of this error
001-0502

every now and then i get this message,i have to restart my modem several times to get to be able to sign in.
i can access to store and NNID in others games,but here i can't most of the time.

N3DSXL,NA.

is that because of DNS?
 

Sciel

Member
What? I had no idea Absols could be found in SOS. Which do you think is faster for a shiny absol, sos or breeding?

(I have a foreign ditto and shiny charm)



I did that, lol. Because I was told ahead of time about the harem thing I assumed all salandit were female. Didnt even bother looking at the gender thing.
The SOS call rate for Absol is terrible so....breeding. You need the egg moves + IVs anyways
 
Just out of curiosity, what is your guys least favorite Pokemon this generation?

Personally I really don't like Shiinotic.
250px-756Shiinotic.png

I mostly dislike it because there's nothing interesting about it. Just another mushroom, that doesn't seem to have much flavor/attitude and is a complete eyesore. Strength Sap is cool tho.
 

I only noticed last week, but I'm guessing this has been going on longer.

Yeah, do not do that I guess.

Don't worry about reading up on them, really. They can be summarised in a paragraph.

They're basically a random number (from 0 to 31) each pokemon has for each stat. For most wild pokemon, you can't affect these directly. I think that the new SOS battle feature spawns better pokemon the longer you keep the chain going. Once you're in the postgame you actually get a graph feature in your pc from the battle area in these games that shows you the iv values your pokemon has. The only important thing is that when you breed a pokemon, 3 of the iv values are taken randomly from the parents. 5 if one of them is holding the item "Destiny knot".

Essentially all you need to know is that using a high stat ditto, like that one, is the easiest way to get higher stat pokemon for all the kinds that can lay eggs. Which, unless you get in to competitive battling, probably isn't actually something that'll make a lot of difference to your game!

Thanks for the info! Now that I think about it, I actually got a Destiny knot during a trade.
 

L.O.R.D

Member
i am really tired of this error
001-0502

every now and then i get this message,i have to restart my modem several times to get to be able to sign in.
i can access to store and NNID in others games,but here i can't most of the time.

N3DSXL,NA.

is that because of DNS?

ok,conncted to another modem in the house and managed to go online,i think my modem is going to be dead soon?
i can download and play online in steam with no problem.
 

Berordn

Member
Just out of curiosity, what is your guys least favorite Pokemon this generation?

Personally I really don't like Shiinotic.
250px-756Shiinotic.png

I mostly dislike it because there's nothing interesting about it. Just another mushroom, that doesn't seem to have much flavor/attitude and is a complete eyesore. Strength Sap is cool tho.

I feel like Shiinotic is something that's going to be more interesting in the anime and other media. It's kind of got a creepy alien in the woods vibe going for it, especially with the Pokedex entries about its glow, but you never really see anything showcasing it in the games.

Anyway the actual answer is Turtonator. It's a terrible Pokemon with a terrible design. Zero redeeming factors.
 

Costia

Member
Is there a way to temporary increase the speed of a pokemon before getting him into the fight?
I had a situation where both my pokemon and the the totem pokemon are super effective against each other. But the totem's speed was higher and he moved first. So i was wondering if there is a way to get my poke to get the first move (assuming he doesnt have any of the "always goes first" moves).
decidueye vs mimkyu
 

Greddleok

Member
Is there a way to temporary increase the speed of a pokemon before getting him into the fight?
I had a situation where both my pokemon and the the totem pokemon are super effective against each other. But the totem's speed was higher and he moved first. So i was wondering if there is a way to get my poke to get the first move (assuming he doesnt have any of the "always goes first" moves).
decidueye vs mimkyu

Level it up.
 

DrArchon

Member
Just out of curiosity, what is your guys least favorite Pokemon this generation?

Bruxish

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Oh look. It's another single stage fish Pokemon that has terrible stats and looks like shit. The only thing this ugly monster is useful for is breeding its unique move onto Sharpedo.
 

The Lamp

Member
I feel like Shiinotic is something that's going to be more interesting in the anime and other media. It's kind of got a creepy alien in the woods vibe going for it, especially with the Pokedex entries about its glow, but you never really see anything showcasing it in the games.

Anyway the actual answer is Turtonator. It's a terrible Pokemon with a terrible design. Zero redeeming factors.

I just placed Turtonator in my party. Why is he bad? Being Fire/Dragon is a neat typing.

How can you guys tell what are good stats and bad?

How do you determine what moves can be bred, and how does the egg move get selected?

How do you know which nature to aim for in a Pokémon?
 

.JayZii

Banned
I decided to not use any revives or potions on the Elite 4/Kukui (even between battles) and it was quite hard. It took me a few tries and my team was all 65-70 by the time I was able to pull it off. Having them all maxed out in friendship from Refresh was clutch in a few close calls.
Just out of curiosity, what is your guys least favorite Pokemon this generation?

Personally I really don't like Shiinotic.
250px-756Shiinotic.png

I mostly dislike it because there's nothing interesting about it. Just another mushroom, that doesn't seem to have much flavor/attitude and is a complete eyesore. Strength Sap is cool tho.
Gumshoos is my least favorite this gen, and I actually ended up really liking Shiinotic. It has that creepy weirdo cuteness that I appreciate, and he was even on my elite 4 team where he wrecked shop.
I just placed Turtonator in my party. Why is he bad? Being Fire/Dragon is a neat typing.

How can you guys tell what are good stats and bad?

How do you determine what moves can be bred, and how does the egg move get selected?

How do you know which nature to aim for in a Pokémon?
I just go to Bulbapedia for stats and moves information.

For what nature, I just go for one that increases one of it's best stats and decreases one of it's worst stats, depending on what kind of moves you're going to have it learn. The red stat is increased and the blue is decreased, in case you didn't know. I thought it was the opposite when I first noticed that feature.
 

Hackworth

Member
How can you guys tell what are good stats and bad?
there are lists of max stats for each pokemon on serebii and bulbapedia

How do you determine what moves can be bred, and how does the egg move get selected?
No clue, but bulbapedia has egg move lists.

How do you know which nature to aim for in a Pokémon?
I compare the pokemon's max stats with lists of natures (on bulba again) and pick the ones that align. Smogon has true competitive battle setups which you can use too.
 
Some of these walk animations look too slow to be keeping up with the player. If following does return as a feature, I don't know how they're going to get around that.

Just out of curiosity, what is your guys least favorite Pokemon this generation?

Alolan Persian, no explanation needed there.

Less obvious, I'd say Yungoos.
 

Aesnath

Member
You know my problem with (recent) pokemon games? I just get caught up in shiny hunting before I finish the damn thing.

So far, I've SOS'd a cutiefly and and rockruff and SR'd a whimpod. I'm starting to think I may never get off of the second island.

Also, do we have any confirmation that the SOS shiny rate is 500ish regardless?
 

DedValve

Banned
Really wish we could slap an eviolite and a z-crystal to non evolved form. Would make them a hell of a lot more viable.

EDIT: I probably said this before but has anyone noticed the amount of 2 stage evos vs 1 or 3 stage pokemon? There are hardly any 3 stage pokemon and most of them are 2 stage.

I liked having 3 stages but they are far fewer now.
 

Berordn

Member
I just placed Turtonator in my party. Why is he bad? Being Fire/Dragon is a neat typing.

Primarily that he's exceptionally slow. He's bulky but his main gimmicks only really work on physical attackers.

He's not totally abysmal but it's just hard to be excited for him when other Pokemon can pull off his intended roles much better.
 

Strimei

Member
Man, people weren't kidding about trubbish being popular. Bred a few and put it up on the GTS and I got the Sun-exclusive UBs and Solgaleo.

Speaking of, I always get a kick out of seeing what people name theirs, as well as the standard names in other languages. Like Buzzwole being Mouscoto in French. I was amused by Celesteela's being Bamboiselle, that's awesome.

But back to nicknames. I actually laughed out loud at the nickname of the Solgaleo I got.

Dayman! Fighter of the Nightman!
 
ok,conncted to another modem in the house and managed to go online,i think my modem is going to be dead soon?
i can download and play online in steam with no problem.

Seems like it could be DNS-related, but if you have to restart your modem that many times then that's kind of a red flag.
 

emb

Member
Just out of curiosity, what is your guys least favorite Pokemon this generation?

Personally I really don't like Shiinotic.
I mostly dislike it because there's nothing interesting about it. Just another mushroom, that doesn't seem to have much flavor/attitude and is a complete eyesore. Strength Sap is cool tho.
Not a fan of this one either. One step closer to a full team worth of mushrooms though, we'd only need a couple more.
Bruxish

Oh look. It's another single stage fish Pokemon that has terrible stats and looks like shit. The only thing this ugly monster is useful for is breeding its unique move onto Sharpedo.
This one is really awful. Would probably get my vote for worst as well.

I feel like Shiinotic is something that's going to be more interesting in the anime and other media. It's kind of got a creepy alien in the woods vibe going for it, especially with the Pokedex entries about its glow, but you never really see anything showcasing it in the games.

Anyway the actual answer is Turtonator. It's a terrible Pokemon with a terrible design. Zero redeeming factors.
I don't like the design (especially since he's constantly turned around and looking backwards, manages to look worse in game). I could see people liking it though, and the typing is really cool.

How can you guys tell what are good stats and bad?

How do you determine what moves can be bred, and how does the egg move get selected?

How do you know which nature to aim for in a Pokémon?
On the pokedex pages on http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/, the bottom of the page has base stats. Use those for general comparisons between pokemon. Generally and very roughly, 80-100 is ok-ish, 100-120 is worthwhile, 130 is great, and over 130 is exceptional.

For in game, stats are a good guideline, but don't matter too much since you can always out level stuff if you want.

For battling with other people, stats matter a lot, but only tell a little piece of the picture. You also have to consider types (resistances and immunities are very important), abilities, and movepool. It's complicated, but you'll basically need pokemon that can either outspeed and 1 or 2 hit KO other pokemon, or take a bunch of hits and stay strong.

Natures go along those lines. Figure out what your most needed stat is, and what stat you can sacrifice. Since stat point investment (EV) is so limited, usually you want to sacrifice one of the attack stats (special or physical), and boost speed, or the other attack stats. Tankier Pokemon often like to boost a defense instead.

Honestly, to get a handle on it, the best thing is probably just to go to www.smogon.com and read several of the analysis articles in their strategy pokedex. They have detailed articles, and several will probably explain the rationale behind stat spread choices.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Morelull was pretty underwhelming and when I heard from the Chinese leaker we were getting another mushroom I was like "oh...", but Shiinotic is pretty cool. I like the alien-vibe it had looking a bit like a Grey emerging from a saucer. I think this Generation did a good job at making all the evolutions better looking than their lower forms mostly, when it's usually the reverse...

Except Salazzle. It creeps me out. I don't get the reverse-harem thing (is that a lizard thing?) and it strikes me as Game Freak admitting that some fans really LIKE Pokemon, though I suspected they realized this back in Gen III.That's probably my least favorite right now.
 
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