Movalpolos
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I love how some people think an acceptable solution is just "buy more shit for it". How lame.
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Switch has digital triggers... so no GCN VC?
- Thread starter Scrawnton
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Conkerkid11
Member
Sunshine is one of the best 3D Mario games.
michaelius
Banned
Weren't they dropped because xbox doesn't have them so multiplatform devs never bothered with them ?
stan423321
Member
You didn't actually read my post carefully. Hint: the answer is in the last sentence. I would love for answer to be "because more people don't like analog triggers" but it's probably not true.
As for it being a minor cost compared to everything else in the console, I agree that it's probably not much, but we have seen Nintendo's cost philosophy doesn't make much sense. Same could be said about no headphone jack in Pro Controller. They will randomly decide something is important (here, "hd rumble" and NFC chip, I imagine the latter doesn't drive price up much but putting it in all full controllers is really overkill), polish that aspect out, then randomly cheapen everything else to compensate.
You would need six buttons at minimum to allow games that used the analogue triggers to work but the Switch controllers have enough.
L1 = light press
L2 = full press
L3 = digital click
Duplicate that for the right analogue and move the Z button to the plus or minus button ( whatever one is the select button )
Not perfect but most games should work fine.
L1 = light press
L2 = full press
L3 = digital click
Duplicate that for the right analogue and move the Z button to the plus or minus button ( whatever one is the select button )
Not perfect but most games should work fine.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
That's not what I've been hearing, so where did you get this from?
It can run BOTW at 30fps in portable mode but it doesn't have the juice to emulate gamecube games.
I would be pissed if they started using analog trigger acceleration for Mario Kart. Holding down trigger buttons for long periods of time gives me handcramps, just lightly holding down one of the face buttons is so much more comfortable.
Digital foundry did a feature on this. Switch is the same as nVidia Shield and that device can run dolphin and gcn games at 1080p 60fps. So of course switch can run them. Like, worse case scenario is Nintendo just steals the way dolphin does it since it already runs on hardware that is practically identical. Nintendo just has to WANT to do it, and with the controllers having digital triggers its obvious they dont want to.
This is a non starter. No developer would do this to the player.
I'm starting to wonder if the Switch could emulate GC now that we have seen how games like Zelda run.
Without the actual chipset it might be a no-go.
arhra
Member
That was Sega, with the Saturn 3D controller, and then the standard Dreamcast controller had it out-of-the-box.
Seriously? Do people not read the thread or are they stretching that thin to bash nintendo? Digital Foundry did a feature a month ago after eurogamers rumor where they ran the dolphin emulator on a nVidia shield which has the same exact hardware set up as Nintendo Switch and that system ran gamecube games at 1080p 60fps.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
As said previously in the thread, the Shield can run many GCN games via Dolphin at 1080p/60FPS. And that's with a fan emulator not optimized for the platform with a targeted resolution/performance that Nintendo would almost certainly undershoot. It's definitely doable.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
It doesn't.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Well Switch has more buttons than the GameCube, there's nothing to stop Nintendo from only releasing certain GameCube games or using the extra shoulder button in place of the analog input for games like Mario Sunshine.
HandsomeCharles
Member
All these people saying it does makes me doubt what I felt in my own god damn hands
Then again HD Rumble did that several times today... That shit is insane!
what other acceptable solutions are there? the hardware is pretty much set in stone and shipping in 6 weeks. Complaining without offering a solution is just wasted effort.
Nintendo will be forced into a control scheme like that if they plan on selling Gamecube games on a system with no analogue triggers in controllers.
They will just drop it, like the MGS HD Collection for PS3.
Jonneh3003
Banned
That's a bit hostile.
Haha, good one.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
No they wouldn't, because GameCube controllers and the adapter exist. And the option to release more accessories.
The Wii never came with the Classic controller, so the majority of VC games were impossible to play without using a controller that was not included with the system. It's obnoxious, but there's absolutely a precedent to requiring additional accessories for these kinds of games.
What does that even mean? This comparison makes no sense at all. And I say this as a person who thinks both stances made little sense.
Can't be played in dock mode then.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
It would also be just awful.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
PS3 version does still have analog face button controls. It was the 360 version that dropped them.
Portugeezer
Member
What games made use of them and in what way? I honestly don't remember, always remember the triggers clicking, although it had a bit more to push down before clicking.
GCN VC will simply not use analogue triggers where it can get away with it.
GCN VC will simply not use analogue triggers where it can get away with it.
PSFan
Member
Also, don't rule out the possibility of new Joy-Con
Let's just hope they make more than 3 per store.
Could those fit in the grip though? I'm sure a lot us want to play GCN games on the TV.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, and Melee all did.
Are you for real right now?
Portugeezer
Member
It means that the game will be made to work without the legacy controls, to the best of what it possible.
New accessories, new Grip!
Joeshabadoo
Member
It would be a really cool VC feature where you could buy optional new joy con attachments that simulate the controls of the source console and when you slide them on to the switch the system detects them and immediately brings up a list of the supported software
brochiller
Member
Maybe but I'd rather the functionality be built into the system so it could use it for other games as well.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
There's a difference between making a sequel work with a new control scheme (since, you know, you can just change the game) and doing the same with an untouched emulated title, where you're talking about nonsense like mapping the GCN triggers to 6 different buttons.
You're right, my mistake. I just remember that it was dropped on one.
There's the GameCube adapter for on TV play, but I don't see why not.
Aarglefarg
Member
I don't think they would do it but maybe motion controls (eg change in angle controller/s are held) while holding down a trigger could be a solution.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Cannot believe they didn't put analog triggers on this thing. Whyyyyyyy
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Didn't realize VC GC wasn't true. This sucks.
PSFan
Member
I'd really hope the GC adapter will be compatible with the Switch. It shouldn't that hard for Nintendo to do. Plus people like it for Smash.