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[Carcetti]

Does that matter? What matters is what transpired, and it puts light to those two youtubers' lies.

I don't know about you but when a Fox/Nutwing/Trump associate tells their (alternative?) facts I never question them because they always have a reliable view of events.

 

[WaterAstro]

Kissing is causing a scene?

You don't read? Asking someone to take a normal group picture with them and then using that opportunity to disrespect them with that behavior is causing a scene.

Even if it was a man and a woman doing the same thing, they would kicked out as well. A lot of you are playing into these two's attempt to paint her action as homophobic.

And where is the second account of events?

What?

 

[RedHill]

Uhhh to be honest, the last time a youtube personality got tossed out of a public space for social reasons, it was revealed to be a total fraud and they were actually being genuinely shit and disruptive.

I stand with lahren on this one. Youtube personalities specialize in making the fake seem real. Seeing that he deleted his tweets doesn't surprise me

He prob had some free drinks because Sundance hands them out like candy

Even if Lahren's events are accurate, she threw two guys out for kissing... Like how can you honestly stay you stand with her. "These are the leftist tricks, they know we don't like gays so they act gay in front of us to make us angry!"

 

[neorej]

She had one person replying to back up her side of the story. If you want more, wait til more attendees make their claims.



It's a straight explanation of what happened.

This is not a straight explanation:

They were there to instigate and make a spectacle to advance whatever political message they placed above common courtesy for our veteran event. These are the tricks of the Left. Designed to instigate and make a scene.

Security escorted them out because they were causing a scene at our private event. Go ahead and spread your fake news. It's sad you stand on such flimsy moral ground you have to create a fake story for attention. Though you tried to detract from the night, you failed. The unloving and intolerant Left strikes again but whatever you were trying to do didn't work. The Left has become so desperate for validation they resort to instigation, planned stunts and outright lies to remain relevant and garner attention. Sad. Anyone who knows me knows I am a social moderate and have always welcomed the LGBT community to my show. The dialogue has always been open to you as it is to anyone I may disagree with or differ from. It's sad you didn't take the opportunity to engage in a meaningful conversation but rather tried to disrupt and derail an event for veterans and service members. God bless our veterans and those who support and honor them. Those there know what happened. God knows what happened. If you had an ounce of dignity you wouldn't drum up a fake story for attention.

What I distill from both accounts is that Lahren agreed to take a photo, the guys started to kiss. Somehow, two men kissing is disrespectful to the veterans, according to Lahren, and is "causing a scene".

At no point in her account of the events is there a scene. She does not describe what happens, which leads me to defer that the kissing in itself was the scene, which can only count as "making a scene" if the person accounting for the events is a homophobe.

 

[capitalCORN]

What?

Your post:

She had one person replying to back up her side of the story. If you want more, wait til more attendees make their claims.
.

Waiting on your reply.

 

[RedHill]

You don't read? Asking someone to take a normal group picture with them and then using that opportunity to disrespect them with that behavior is causing a scene.

Even if it was a man and a woman doing the same thing, they would kicked out as well. A lot of you are playing into these two's attempt to paint her action as homophobic.



What?

It doesn't take much to paint that idiot Toyota Lasagna as anything. She is racist, she is homophobic, and she's an embarrassment to Texas. I've never even been to Texas.

 

[WaterAstro]

This is not a straight explanation:

What I distill from both accounts is that Lahren agreed to take a photo, the guys started to kiss. Somehow, two men kissing is disrespectful to the veterans, according to Lahren, and is "causing a scene".

At no point in her account of the events is there a scene. She does not describe what happens, which leads me to defer that the kissing in itself was the scene, which can only count as "making a scene" if the person accounting for the events is a homophobe.

Nice selective quoting dude.

You missed the part where they asked to take a group photo with her, and then jumped out in front of her and started kissing when the photo was being shot. This isn't a frat party.

Your post:

Waiting on your reply.

Read the post image again. Someone backed her up.

 

[RedHill]

Not once does Tomi describe a scene, as a user above points out. If the scene is that two men were kissing, you are homophobic. Gay people are not a fucking political statement. We are people.

 

[capitalCORN]

Read the post image again. Someone backed her up.

They don't corroborate any facts, or even details, just some mumbling about snapchat. If that's gospel to you, whatever.

 

[RedHill]

Nice selective quoting dude.

You missed the part where they asked to take a group photo with her, and then jumped out in front of her and started kissing when the photo was being shot. This isn't a frat party.



Read the post image again. Someone backed her up.

"Someone backed her up" right, because any of Tomi's republican pals are totally unbiased. You blindly following the words of Tomi Lahren speaks miles.

 

[neorej]

Nice selective quoting dude.

You missed the part where they asked to take a group photo with her, and then jumped out in front of her and started kissing when the photo was being shot. This isn't a frat party.

I deliberatly selected the parts where she did not give a straight account of the events, as you argued she gave a straight account. I like how you ignore the rest of the post, so I'll assume you agree on the part that Tomi Lahren is a homophobe. I cannot fathom those guys were the only two at that party kissing.

 

[Ponn]

Does that matter? What matters is what transpired, and it puts light to those two youtubers' lies.

Them alternative facts at work.

 

[SoulUnison]

Even if she's telling the truth, she's a complete tool who's basically saying 'Yeah, they were being actively gay, so I threw them out."

I'm so sick of this "I'm tolerant of gays as long as they sit down and shut up about it" attitude.

 

[Vazduh]

Oh, Shane... Shut up.

p.s. I don't condone ms. Lahren in any way, but I don't think of Shane as any less messy.

 

[WaterAstro]

Not once does Tomi describe a scene, as a user above points out. If the scene is that two men were kissing, you are homophobic. Gay people are not a fucking political statement. We are people.

Holy shit. I'm done with this thread.

Taking a blind eye to that post she made and just making up random replies. There's nothing that will convince you guys.

 

[massoluk]

My opinion is that if you're not a homophobe, you would not find that kissing scene enough a factor to throw someone out regardless of intention

 

[RedHill]

Tomi has said that BLM is the new KKK, but yes let's blindly take her word as truth

 

[RedHill]

Holy shit. I'm done with this thread.

Taking a blind eye to that post she made and just making up random replies. There's nothing that will convince you guys.

Honey what blind eye? I've acknowledged it multiple times. Why are you taking Toyota Lasagna's post as blind truth?

 

[capitalCORN]

Honey what blind eye? I've acknowledged it multiple times. Why are you taking Toyota Lasagna's post as blind truth?

Cuz' her post has reply, apparently.

 

[RedHill]

Cuz' her post has reply, apparently.

"No dude really he unlocked Red Kitana"

 

[17 Seconds]

Not once does Tomi describe a scene, as a user above points out. If the scene is that two men were kissing, you are homophobic. Gay people are not a fucking political statement. We are people.

don't make things worse by being obtuse. if it's true that they intentionally did it to stir things up (which has not been proven), then yes, that's "causing a scene". it's still bullshit that they would get kicked out, but it's different than just being thrown out for kissing.

lahren is obviously the most heinous (and relevant) person here, it's not even a comparison. that doesn't mean that you can't call out the other side for instigating something and lying about it.

 

[daffy]

Even if Lahren's events are accurate, she threw two guys out for kissing... Like how can you honestly stay you stand with her. "These are the leftist tricks, they know we don't like gays so they act gay in front of us to make us angry!"

nah. if all they did was kiss it would be fine. But this is literally like getting in line to meet mickey mouse and then right before the photo person takes the pic you scream WALT DISNEY WAS A RACIST or something. Totally disingenuous and done specifically to get a rise out of what you consider to be the "elephant in the room" when its a simple photo op done for innocuous reasons.

 

[neorej]

Holy shit. I'm done with this thread.

Taking a blind eye to that post she made and just making up random replies. There's nothing that will convince you guys.

Yes, when being presented by Tomi's hatespeech and one of her devout follower's affirmation doesn't convince people, WHAT WILL?

nah. if all they did was kiss it would be fine. But this is literally like getting in line to meet mickey mouse and then right before the photo person takes the pic you scream WALT DISNEY WAS A RACIST or something. Totally disingenuous and done specifically to get a rise out of what you consider to be the "elephant in the room" when its a simple photo op done for innocuous reasons.

You really want to equate two guys kissing to yelling WALT DISNEY IS A RACIST in front of a bunch of children?



really?

 

[Red Liquorice]

Even if it was a man and a woman doing the same thing, they would kicked out as well.

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[GhostBed]

I see know reason why Tomi should get the benefit of the doubt here. She blatantly lies to the camera on her show all the time, what's to stop her from doing it now? Her followers will eat up any damn thing she says.

Btw, two men kissing is not causing a scene. And lol at the "if it were a straight couple they'd have been thrown out too" like lol just stop, gimme a fuckin break.

 

[mariachi507]

How in the world is two guys kissing "making a scene"? That's no reason to throw anyone out.

 

[RedHill]

don't make things worse by being obtuse. if it's true that they intentionally did it to stir things up (which has not been proven), then yes, that's "causing a scene". it's still bullshit that they would get kicked out, but it's different than just being thrown out for kissing.

lahren is obviously the most heinous (and relevant) person here, it's not even a comparison. that doesn't mean that you can't call out the other side for instigating something and lying about it.

The truth on this matter is somewhere in the middle. Shane's probably exaggerating and Tomahawk is likely telling half truths. She's still a bigot. With droopy eyes.

 

[RedHill]

nah. if all they did was kiss it would be fine. But this is literally like getting in line to meet mickey mouse and then right before the photo person takes the pic you scream WALT DISNEY WAS A RACIST or something. Totally disingenuous and done specifically to get a rise out of what you consider to be the "elephant in the room" when its a simple photo op done for innocuous reasons.

Screaming Walt Disney was a racist is the same as kissing your boyfriend??? I...

 

[daffy]

You guys act like they were kissing offhand or in regular conversation or something. She literally said they stepped in front of her and kissed during a photo op... how is that appropriate straight or gay. Them being the same sex clearly shows they thought it would be politically expedient to do so in front of someone known for being bigoted.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

You don't read? Asking someone to take a normal group picture with them and then using that opportunity to disrespect them with that behavior is causing a scene.

Even if it was a man and a woman doing the same thing, they would kicked out as well. A lot of you are playing into these two's attempt to paint her action as homophobic.

I find exactly that the problem, 2 men kissing being seen as action of disrespect.Even if we accept as normal the notion of her being offended by seeing a gay couple kissing, which is quite nauseating at itself, surely she could handled the situation way better.

And her explanation makes it clear that if it was a man and a woman, she wouldn't have any problem.

 

[Red Liquorice]

Screaming Walt Disney was a racist is the same as kissing your boyfriend??? I...

What daffy is saying is that this was the not the time or place to make suchh a statement. Which of course is complete nonsense - if someone regards harmless PDoAs as inappropriate and part of a "leftist agenda" then of course this is the perfect place to make such a statement.

Even if all they went there for is to get kicked out - the fact that getting kicked out for such a tiny, innoffensive thing shows how fucked up everything is. So shine a light on it.

 

[Monocle]

You don't read? Asking someone to take a normal group picture with them and then using that opportunity to disrespect them with that behavior is causing a scene.

Even if it was a man and a woman doing the same thing, they would kicked out as well. A lot of you are playing into these two's attempt to paint her action as homophobic.

You can't possibly think anyone's dumb enough to believe this, so why say it?

 

[Kusagari]

You don't read? Asking someone to take a normal group picture with them and then using that opportunity to disrespect them with that behavior is causing a scene.

Even if it was a man and a woman doing the same thing, they would kicked out as well. A lot of you are playing into these two's attempt to paint her action as homophobic.

You know you don't believe the second point so don't come in here and try to act like some contrarian.

 

[neorej]

You guys act like they were kissing offhand or in regular conversation or something. She literally said they stepped in front of her and kissed during a photo op... how is that appropriate straight or gay. Them being the same sex clearly shows they thought it would be politically expedient to do so in front of someone known for being bigoted.

So they kissed in front of her. How is that causing a scene? How is that equal to yelling DISNEY IS RACIST at a Mickey Mouse photo op in front of a bunch of children?

Honest question, has anyone contacted Tomi to ask if she has sought professional psychological help to recover from this traumatic experience?

 

[royalan]

Oh, Shane... Shut up.

p.s. I don't condone ms. Lahren in any way, but I don't think of Shane as any less messy.

Oh wow, gay white male obsessing over black people while simultaneously being racist toward black people.

So fresh.

So original.

 

[Ponn]

You guys act like they were kissing offhand or in regular conversation or something. She literally said they stepped in front of her and kissed during a photo op... how is that appropriate straight or gay. Them being the same sex clearly shows they thought it would be politically expedient to do so in front of someone known for being bigoted.

Your argument is literally don't offend the bigot with your homosexual kissing. You know damn well a straight couple kissing would be laughed off as "Oh you".

 

[RedHill]

What daffy is saying is that this was the not the time or place to make suchh a statement. Which of course is complete nonsense - if someone regards harmless PDoAs as inappropriate and part of a "leftist agenda" then of course this is the perfect place to make such a statement.

Even if all they went there for is to get kicked out - the fact that getting kicked out for such a tiny, innoffensive thing shows how fucked up everything is. So shine a light on it.

Great point
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Shane and Ryland start kissing, Tomi kicks them out, a security guard assaults Shane, and then they lie and say they aren't on the list once Shane starts recording. And none of this rings as homophobic to some of you? This is all a really rational way to treat two people kissing at a PARTY? This would happen to a straight couple? Are any of you really trying to say this? Really?

 

[MadJackChurchill]

It sucks what happened to him and his date. but why would he go to this party to begin with?

This just in, being a gay conservative is not allowed.



You realise the horrible logic train you're on, yes?

 

[neorej]

Your argument is literally don't offend the bigot with your homosexual kissing. You know damn well a straight couple kissing would be laughed off as "Oh you".

Tomi is the special snowflake she rants against in her shows.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Break his leg? Wtf? And yeah, I know who she is. Hateful woman. That should be reason enough not to go.

 

[capitalCORN]

This just in, being a gay conservative is not allowed.



You realise the horrible logic train you're on, yes?

And when was I talking about politics? Dude showed up at a party, not a convention.

Edit: Well I meant if Tomi Lahren is a prominent guest, probably not the most hospitable environment.

 

[Brakke]

Thanks for the "straight explanation", Terry.

 

[RedHill]

Neogaf - where we argue about whether or not people who punch nazis are bad, and if it's bad to make a homophobe uncomfortable with kissing.

 

[daffy]

So they kissed in front of her. How is that causing a scene? How is that equal to yelling DISNEY IS RACIST at a Mickey Mouse photo op in front of a bunch of children?

Honest question, has anyone contacted Tomi to ask if she has sought professional psychological help to recover from this traumatic experience?

My doubts come in in that I doubt all they did was kiss in front of her and not saying anything disparaging after the fact. To be honest i still think the Disney analogy was on point. You go wait in line to see Walt's foremost creation, essentially the embodiment of him, and right there decide to uproot the entire facade by bringing up the unsavory things he's said in the past.

How is that not even a little similar to going to Lahren's politically unrelated function and bringing up the unsavory things she's argued against in her past as well? Obviously they aren't on the same level creatively but in that they're both public figures.

edit: to Tomi it would be seen as unsavory but this analogy isnt worth defending to be honest. I'll leave it here for posterity

 

[MadJackChurchill]

It sucks what happened to him and his date. but why would he go to this party to begin with?

And when was I talking about politics? Dude showed up at a party, not a convention.

Edit: Well I meant if Tomi Lahren is a prominent guest, probably not the most hospitable environment.

And that stops them from exercising basic human autonomy...how exactly? Riding that train into the tunnel.

 

[Beefy]

Oh, Shane... Shut up.

p.s. I don't condone ms. Lahren in any way, but I don't think of Shane as any less messy.

See this shit way too much in the LBGT+. Sorry he got harrassed for holding his bfs hand, but he's a racist cunt.

 

[novabolt]

If you go to a party with the intention of a causing a scene, don't be surprised when security chucks you out. Now, if you didn't do anything wrong, you should fight for your rights.

Unfortunately, Shane Dawson has a history of being on the wrong side.

 

[RedHill]

My doubts come in in that I doubt all they did was kiss in front of her and not saying anything disparaging after the fact. To be honest i still think the Disney analogy was on point. You go wait in line to see Walt's foremost creation, essentially the embodiment of him, and right there decide to uproot the entire facade by bringing up the unsavory things he's said in the past.

How is that not even a little similar to going to Lahren's politically unrelated function and bringing up the unsavory things she's argued against in her past as well? Obviously they aren't on the same level creatively but in that they're both public figures.

1. You doubt all they did was kiss in front of her because the gay people have to be wrong and do something bad to elicit a reaction, considering how rational and not bigoted Tomi is.

2. Gay men kissing is unsavory.

3. Gay men should not kiss in front of a homophobe because it's mean to make her feel uncomfortable respect her onions

 

[daffy]

1. You doubt all they did was kiss in front of her because the gay people have to be wrong and do something bad to elicit a reaction, considering how rational and not bigoted Tomi is.

2. Gay men kissing is unsavory.

3. Gay men should not kiss in front of a homophobe because it's mean to make her feel uncomfortable respect her onions

Yeah i noticed i left the unsavory part in. It has nothing to do with them being gay. Its about what they thought would get the biggest reaction from Lahren is what I'm saying here. Clearly they were trying to get her riled up. But being gay in and of itself is not disruptive.

 

[capitalCORN]

And that stops them from exercising basic human autonomy...how exactly? Riding that train into the tunnel.

I never mentioned a code of conduct. I said when you enter a lion's den, prepare to be scrutinized. it's a simple two and two. I did not wish harm on anyone. nor did I justify their treatment.