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[Pancake Mix]

Yes, it is inherently bad.

Whether that stops you or not is another thing, but it's inherently an amoral thing to do in society, you're jacking up prices for everyone else and not really making anything more available (at an acceptable price), realistically.

 

[Murugo]

A couple years ago Amiibo were prime targets for scalping, not because they were rare only for a couple weeks, but because many of them wouldn't return for months or even the following year. This was absolutely frustrating for the average collector, especially when some stores allow buying Amiibo in bulk with no other use than to resell for $100+ ea. to those that were desperate.

It does depend, but in many cases scalping is an exploitative practice which puts both sellers and buyers at an immense disadvantage.

 

[Palmer_v1]

I don't really care about scalping when it requires physical presence at a store to accomplish, i.e. buying all of the Wii's at a target or something, and selling them for some profit online.

I fucking hate it when it's an online purchase though cause it's too easy to buy multiples of something before others have even had a chance.

It is an inherently anti-social thing to do though. No aspect of it improves society in any meaningful way. You might as well be scamming retirees, or selling herbal medicine to fools.

 

[Cocaloch]

It's a rent seeking activity that only exists by exploiting problems in the market. Yes, it's inherently bad.

All capitalism is inherently selfish though. Owning personal property is selfish.

You are aware that the entire justification for Capitalism is that it is an efficient system that is supposed to make everyone's lives better right?

Argue against that if you want, but at least it pretends to be harnessing selfishness for the greater good of society.

 

[andycapps]

Depends, if it's tickets, screw you and I hope the government shuts down ticket reselling except by private individuals while putting limits on transactions per year. Can't say how many times I've been unable to buy tickets for events or concerts and have to turn to 3rd party markets where there are thousands available for 3 times face value.

 

[Raitosaito]

Depends, if it's tickets, screw you and I hope the government shuts down ticket reselling except by private individuals while putting limits on transactions per year. Can't say how many times I've been unable to buy tickets for events or concerts and have to turn to 3rd party markets where there are thousands available for 3 times face value.

Yeah, the Obama admin before leaving enacted a set of laws against online mass purchasing of concert tickets. Idk how it'll be enforced, but I think one time only products exist in a different vacuum. Though obviously posters in here disagree with me, and honestly I'm thoroughly enjoying the discussion that is going on.

It's a rent seeking activity that only exists by exploiting problems in the market. Yes, it's inherently bad.

You're not really giving any real examples. I think you're putting all middle man under one umbrella.

 

[Cocaloch]

You're not really giving any real examples. I think you're putting all middle man under one umbrella.

It is rent seeking, I'm not sure how you can argue against that. It doesn't provide a service, and the labor that goes into it is essentially wasted.

Scalping and reselling can be different though. Reselling can be beneficial because it might redirect goods in a more efficient way.

Buying 20 switches and reselling them at a 300% mark up fails to do anything productive.

 

[ahoyhoy]

It is rent seeking, I'm not sure how you can argue against that. It doesn't provide a service, and the labor that goes into it is essentially wasted.

Scalping and reselling can be different though. Reselling can be beneficial because might redirect goods in a more efficient way.

Buying 20 switches and reselling them at a 300% mark up fails to do anything productive.

Not to mention you're essentially pricing out those with less disposable income.

Basically, the transaction benefits the rich by allowing them access to more exclusive goods at a more exclusive price. Those who can't afford the artificially high markup get fucked.

 

[L4DANathan]

Depends.

If you're buying up all of a rare item (say Amiibo) or highly demanded tickets to an event and then just trying to flip them for a profit, then you're nothing but utter scum.
If you're just buying items while they're cheap/on sale and then reselling them for something closer to standard price when the discounts are over, I don't really see a problem.

Bingo.

 

[hunchback]

I'm not quite sure how I feel about ticket scalping. One of the reasons being, artists are now holding back tickets to each show. Then putting them on the second hand markets for much higher prices.

 

[Shadynasty]

No one is forcing people to buy scalped goods. I honestly don't care if people can't get what they want. As long as people aren't scalping essential items like food, medecine, or water, then I really have no issue with the practice. There have been many items that I was not able to get because of scalpers jacking up the price on ebay or amazon. I just accept it and move on with my life. I really can't knock people trying to get their hustle on.

Wait until it's something your kid is looking forward to and tell me if you feel the same.

 

[mdubs]

If companies (like Nintendo) wanted to reduce scalping, all they would need to do is produce another run of systems. Scalpers would be out their money then.

If the resale price is too high for a concert, maybe the organizer should have priced them higher in the first place - there's nothing keeping them from realizing the difference in the market price that the scalpers are taking advantage of.

They could take care of these things, but they don't.

 

[andycapps]

Yeah, the Obama admin before leaving enacted a set of laws against online mass purchasing of concert tickets. Idk how it'll be enforced, but I think one time only products exist in a different vacuum. Though obviously posters in here disagree with me, and honestly I'm thoroughly enjoying the discussion that is going on.

Right, I remember that and thought it was a good first step. I'd like to see more action and more teeth behind legislation.

I don't have a problem with it if you're buying something that's a good deal and then you resell it at a higher price. Not a huge fan of the idea of buying a product that's in high demand with the intention to resell it. Legal, yes. Dick move? I think so.

If the resale price is too high for a concert, maybe the organizer should have priced them higher in the first place - there's nothing keeping them from realizing the difference in the market price that the scalpers are taking advantage of.

That's a strange line of thinking that seems to take a lot of mental acrobatics to justify scalping. Ticket prices for concerts are high enough before you introduce the secondary market and increase the prices by 2x or 3x.

 

[Cocaloch]

If companies (like Nintendo) wanted to reduce scalping, all they would need to do is produce another run of systems. Scalpers would be out their money then.

If the resale price is too high for a concert, maybe the organizer should have priced them higher in the first place - there's nothing keeping them from realizing the difference in the market price that the scalpers are taking advantage of.

They could take care of these things, but they don't.

You're just saying scalpers take advantage of problems in the market. That's not a justification, it's an explanation.

 

[yanipheonu]

You are aware that the entire justification for Capitalism is that it is an efficient system that is supposed to make everyone's lives better right?

Argue against that if you want, but at least it pretends to be harnessing selfishness for the greater good of society.

I'm not sure if that view of capitalism is viable anymore. Its a nice ideal, and its provided some wonderful things, but humans have proven to be less than rational actors.

 

[russtc3]

Yes

 

[biggersmaller]

No. Nobody made you buy that $800 PS2 or $300 concert ticket.

Your level of "genuine" enthusiasm doesn't entitle you to anything over someone motivated purely by profit. You have every right to be mad about it, but scalping is never wrong. First come first serve.

 

[notaskwid]

No, scalping is fueled by people who can't wait or can't not do x and are willing to pay unreasonable amounts to get it.
As far as I'm concerned people who buy from scalpers deserve to be taken advantage of.

The only situation where scalping is bad is when it involves necessary goods (water, food, medicine).

 

[Downhome]

I'll speak on reselling, not so much on scalping.

Last April we decided we needed a way to make a few extra bucks. I have been on eBay since 1998 and have always sold this or that every now and then so I turned to that to really try to do it more often. As the year went on I started to learn more and more. My method is to search for items that few others have listed, if any at all, and price as high as I can and accept best offers. If an item isn't for sale anywhere, I will create the market value for it.

In the end I did almost $5k in December alone from my eBay reselling side job and did $20k from April when I started up real heavy last year through December. My goal for this year is at least $30k, but I'm really shooting for $40k.

As an example, just today, I sold a hat I bought for $1 for $75 and I sold a t-shirt I bought for $1.50 for $79.95. It has been slow in January, but I think things are starting to pick up now. A few weeks ago I sold something I bought for $2.50 for $240.

There is more than enough "product" out there for folks to do this, and considering most don't want to do it as much as me and others, it doesn't matter if there are many other small time resellers. Our goal is to build our eBay side thing to the point where my wife can quick her day job to take it over for the most part (except for the shopping for new items, I love that part especially). I'd like to get it to the point where we can both quit our day jobs but with state health insurance I'm locked in unless we somehow are able to ramp it up way, way more than we have it at now.

I may start a reselling OT sometime here. I've been meaning to but haven't ever gotten around to it.

 

[Raitosaito]

I'll speak on reselling, not so much on scalping.

Last April we decided we needed a way to make a few extra bucks. I have been on eBay since 1998 and have always sold this or that every now and then so I turned to that to really try to do it more often. As the year went on I started to learn more and more. My method is to search for items that few others have listed, if any at all, and price as high as I can and accept best offers. If an item isn't for sale anywhere, I will create the market value for it.

In the end I did almost $5k in December alone from my eBay reselling side job and did $20k from April when I started up real heavy last year through December. My goal for this year is at least $30k, but I'm really shooting for $40k.

As an example, just today, I sold a hat I bought for $1 for $75 and I sold a t-shirt I bought for $1.50 for $79.95. It has been slow in January, but I think things are starting to pick up now. A few weeks ago I sold something I bought for $2.50 for $240.

There is more than enough "product" out there for folks to do this, and considering most don't want to do it as much as me and others, it doesn't matter if there are many other small time resellers. Our goal is to build our eBay side thing to the point where my wife can quick her day job to take it over for the most part (except for the shopping for new items, I love that part especially). I'd like to get it to the point where we can both quit our day jobs but with state health insurance I'm locked in unless we somehow are able to ramp it up way, way more than we have it at now.

I may start a reselling OT sometime here. I've been meaning to but haven't ever gotten around to it.

I'd be super interested in that, and it'd be cool to have discussions about what we do, and what thrift finds we see at like garage sales or local stores.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I'll speak on reselling, not so much on scalping.

Last April we decided we needed a way to make a few extra bucks. I have been on eBay since 1998 and have always sold this or that every now and then so I turned to that to really try to do it more often. As the year went on I started to learn more and more. My method is to search for items that few others have listed, if any at all, and price as high as I can and accept best offers. If an item isn't for sale anywhere, I will create the market value for it.

In the end I did almost $5k in December alone from my eBay reselling side job and did $20k from April when I started up real heavy last year through December. My goal for this year is at least $30k, but I'm really shooting for $40k.

As an example, just today, I sold a hat I bought for $1 for $75 and I sold a t-shirt I bought for $1.50 for $79.95. It has been slow in January, but I think things are starting to pick up now. A few weeks ago I sold something I bought for $2.50 for $240.

There is more than enough "product" out there for folks to do this, and considering most don't want to do it as much as me and others, it doesn't matter if there are many other small time resellers. Our goal is to build our eBay side thing to the point where my wife can quick her day job to take it over for the most part (except for the shopping for new items, I love that part especially). I'd like to get it to the point where we can both quit our day jobs but with state health insurance I'm locked in unless we somehow are able to ramp it up way, way more than we have it at now.

I may start a reselling OT sometime here. I've been meaning to but haven't ever gotten around to it.

Congrats! Sounds like that'd be time consuming and exhaustive. You must be pretty damn dedicated.

I'd be super interested in that, and it'd be cool to have discussions about what we do, and what thrift finds we see at like garage sales or local stores.

Same

 

[Skux]

Depends.

If you're buying up all of a rare item (say Amiibo) or highly demanded tickets to an event and then just trying to flip them for a profit, then you're nothing but utter scum.
If you're just buying items while they're cheap/on sale and then reselling them for something closer to standard price when the discounts are over, I don't really see a problem.

How is one different from the other? You are buying things and selling them at prices that customers will buy them for. The act is the same. The only thing that changes are the market forces.

 

[Downhome]

I'd be super interested in that, and it'd be cool to have discussions about what we do, and what thrift finds we see at like garage sales or local stores.

Shoot me some ideas for title and other info for it. I envision it more of a thread just to talk about random stuff more than anything, maybe adding some tips for shipping and stuff in the OP, basic stuff. Anyone else interested let me know.

I have picked up a toy, game system, or other such limited items now and then to resell at profit, I admit that. It's not something I focus on and do a ton of though and I don't go out of my way to do it. It's only when I happen to stumble upon something in a store or I know it's online and I can do it without any real effort. There's a heck of a lot more out there to deal with everywhere to make money on without having to jump through loops.

So many people could have it off a bit easier if they would just walk through a thrift store or whatever a few times a month and just flip a thing or two. You don't have to do it full time or spend a lot of time on it. Anyone, no matter who you are or where you live, can make a few extra bucks every month if need be by doing it. Most people either don't believe that or don't care, or think it's "nasty" or something.

 

[iamblades]

It is rent seeking, I'm not sure how you can argue against that. It doesn't provide a service, and the labor that goes into it is essentially wasted.

Scalping and reselling can be different though. Reselling can be beneficial because it might redirect goods in a more efficient way.

Buying 20 switches and reselling them at a 300% mark up fails to do anything productive.

It's not rent seeking, as scalpers don't have any influence on public policy or larger economic conditions, and in fact public policy is usually anti-scalping.

noun
1.
the fact or practice of manipulating public policy or economic conditions as a strategy for increasing profits.
"cronyism and rent-seeking have become an integral part of the way our biggest companies do business"
adjective
1.
engaging in or involving the manipulation of public policy or economic conditions as a strategy for increasing profits.
"rent-seeking lobbyists"

Rent seeking would be if scalpers got together and unionized and got a law passed that banned direct sales of tickets or whatever the item in question is. Sort of how car dealerships do in some jurisdictions.

Scalping is just arbitrage. Nothing wrong with it at all, they are merely taking advantage of mismatches in the supply/demand curve. The value that scalpers provide to the economy at large is that they help it reach equilibrium faster than it otherwise would.

 

[Downhome]

Congrats! Sounds like that'd be time consuming and exhaustive. You must be pretty damn dedicated.


Same

It is a legitimate second job. I sometimes go thrifting before work, after work, then come home to list items and pack and ship for the next day (I do 1 day shipping on everything). I spend hours on it every single day even if it's just research. On the weekends it's the same, and I hit auctions and estate sales and that sort of thing. I'm 100% positive I could do it full time, making more than I do at my day job, if I had to start that tomorrow.

Most people think it's not a big deal when you say you "sell on eBay". No one truly knows how much time and effort goes into it unless they actually do it. They think it's simple, just fun and games, and you aren't really working and instead you are just goofing off all the time. I've actually tried to help others get started but once they see how much work it really is they stop.

 

[Jzero]

Yes, especially with concert tickets
Fuck scalpers. Reselling itself isn't bad though, sometimes you can't make it to the show and need to sell your ticket.

 

[Chuck Norris]

No its capitalism

 

[captive]

No. Nobody made you buy that $800 PS2 or $300 concert ticket.

Your level of "genuine" enthusiasm doesn't entitle you to anything over someone motivated purely by profit. You have every right to be mad about it, but scalping is never wrong. First come first serve.

No, scalping is fueled by people who can't wait or can't not do x and are willing to pay unreasonable amounts to get it.
As far as I'm concerned people who buy from scalpers deserve to be taken advantage of.

The only situation where scalping is bad is when it involves necessary goods (water, food, medicine).

i would like for you both to give your opinions on concert tickets. As previously mentioned by myself and others, there seems to be some way 3rd party sellers are able to buy up literally thousands of tickets before the general public can get them. And its complete bullshit in my opinion.

 

[BronsonLee]

i would like for you both to give your opinions on concert tickets. As previously mentioned by myself and others, there seems to be some way 3rd party sellers are able to buy up literally thousands of tickets before the general public can get them. And its complete bullshit in my opinion.

Bots
Assholes who sit outside the ticket office and buy them all
The actual venue themselves (The Citrus Bowl did this for Wrestlemania 33, they took all the cheap tickets and put them up on Stubhub right when general ticket sales started)

 

[notaskwid]

i would like for you both to give your opinions on concert tickets. As previously mentioned by myself and others, there seems to be some way 3rd party sellers are able to buy up literally thousands of tickets before the general public can get them. And its complete bullshit in my opinion.

If that meant that venues would be empty, companies would do something about it, but it doesn't, so...

 

[Raitosaito]

i would like for you both to give your opinions on concert tickets. As previously mentioned by myself and others, there seems to be some way 3rd party sellers are able to buy up literally thousands of tickets before the general public can get them. And its complete bullshit in my opinion.

I've stated my opinion on ticket scalping before, and it kind of exist in its own vacuum. And there's now a whole subsidiary of industries like seat geek/stubhub etc. Its also a really unique item where it doesn't really give the consumer a chance down the line. Base on the type of commodity it is alone, it should be more heavily regulated.

 

[Dice]

I think if you didn't buy something with that specific purpose in mind and then ended up not needing it, it isn't bad making a profit off people's impatience to make up for the trouble you went through.

However, if you do it intentionally, I do think that is bad.

Yet, to be the impatient person wasting ridiculous amounts of money, enabling those who do and incentivizing the behavior on all sorts of other things, that is a littler bit worse.

 

[squeakywheel]

I have sold rare stuff from time to time.
All online retailers should limit quantity sold for highly demanded products such as a switch to one per account to help mitigate this. Physical stores should do the same.
And for the scalpers, as long as you are declaring your income for tax reasons I don't mind.

 

[TheTurboFD]

I resell sneakers on the side. Mainly because it assists me to purchase other shoes I want without having to dip into money made at work. I mean why wouldn't I? For example I buy a couple pairs of Yeezys at $220 each and essentially make 300-600$ profit from each shoe. So then that money buys me way more shoes as well as puts money in my pocket to pay for my car loan and much more. I mean if people weren't paying insane amounts of money for them then I wouldn't be doing it.

 

[iamblades]

i would like for you both to give your opinions on concert tickets. As previously mentioned by myself and others, there seems to be some way 3rd party sellers are able to buy up literally thousands of tickets before the general public can get them. And its complete bullshit in my opinion.

Insider trading should be treated as such regardless of whether it is trading in stocks or concert tickets.

Don't blame the scalpers in these cases though. In situations like that it is usually the artist of venue using the scalper as a scapegoat for high ticket prices.

The artist/venue gets a cut of the scalper's profits and can keep an artificially low face value on the tickets so they don't piss off the fans.

 

[Eye for an Eye]

I'll speak on reselling, not so much on scalping.

Last April we decided we needed a way to make a few extra bucks. I have been on eBay since 1998 and have always sold this or that every now and then so I turned to that to really try to do it more often. As the year went on I started to learn more and more. My method is to search for items that few others have listed, if any at all, and price as high as I can and accept best offers. If an item isn't for sale anywhere, I will create the market value for it.

In the end I did almost $5k in December alone from my eBay reselling side job and did $20k from April when I started up real heavy last year through December. My goal for this year is at least $30k, but I'm really shooting for $40k.

As an example, just today, I sold a hat I bought for $1 for $75 and I sold a t-shirt I bought for $1.50 for $79.95. It has been slow in January, but I think things are starting to pick up now. A few weeks ago I sold something I bought for $2.50 for $240.

There is more than enough "product" out there for folks to do this, and considering most don't want to do it as much as me and others, it doesn't matter if there are many other small time resellers. Our goal is to build our eBay side thing to the point where my wife can quick her day job to take it over for the most part (except for the shopping for new items, I love that part especially). I'd like to get it to the point where we can both quit our day jobs but with state health insurance I'm locked in unless we somehow are able to ramp it up way, way more than we have it at now.

I may start a reselling OT sometime here. I've been meaning to but haven't ever gotten around to it.

Have you filled out you taxes yet? The numbers may seem high on your selling profile, but it's no where near the real value of what you're making.

Ebay says you made 5 grand, try dwindling it to a couple thousand at most. Ebay fees, paypal fees, shipping fees, original purchase price, packing materials, and then paying taxes on what you do earn. It all adds up.

Finding local items at thrift stores or yard sales or craiglist and putting for the effort to give a broader selling platform is fine by me. It's taking a small niche item and putting it in the hands of some one who does want it.

 

[Hephaestus]

I dont really understand the difference between scalpers buying up tickets or just regular people buying tickets. In either case you dont get to go to the concert. At least with scalpers there is a chance of buying the ticket.

And really wouldnt the simplest solution to combat scalpers is to have more shows? If I was performing a concert and the show sold out in seconds, why wouldnt I have a second, third forth show? As the supply of tickets continues to flood the market the scalpers would have no choice then to keep lowering their prices.

Hell you could probably go the night of the concert and buy tickets for well below the original price as scalpers get desperate to recoup some of their money back.

 

[captive]

If that meant that venues would be empty, companies would do something about it, but it doesn't, so...

no, it doesnt mean venues would be empty. It has nothing to do with that.

Also you're example is piss poor. *a sizeable amount* companies won't do shit for employees or customers until forced to, why else are there so many lawsuits against companies and laws enacted? For instance the amount of companies in the US that offer paid maternity leave vs the amount of companies elsewhere in the world that do.

 

[Cocaloch]

It's not rent seeking, as scalpers don't have any influence on public policy or larger economic conditions, and in fact public policy is usually anti-scalping.

"In economics and in public-choice theory, rent-seeking involves seeking to increase one's share of existing wealth without creating new wealth. Rent-seeking results in reduced economic efficiency through poor allocation of resources, reduced actual wealth creation, lost government revenue, increased income inequality,[1] and (potentially) national decline."

From wikipedia. This is the definition historians use. I've seen it used in plenty of cases where governments aren't involved.

 

[Raitosaito]

Have you filled out you taxes yet? The numbers may seem high on your selling profile, but it's no where near the real value of what you're making.

Ebay says you made 5 grand, try dwindling it to a couple thousand at most. Ebay fees, paypal fees, shipping fees, original purchase price, packing materials, and then paying taxes on what you do earn. It all adds up.

Finding local items at thrift stores or yard sales or craiglist and putting for the effort to give a broader selling platform is fine by me. It's taking a small niche item and putting it in the hands of some one who does want it.

Luckily someone taught me this, and gave me a lot of resources to calculate eBay fees, shipping etc. So I am making about the same as my job and maybe a bit more, even after paying for all my expenses to get it going. And of course taxes.

I resell sneakers on the side. Mainly because it assists me to purchase other shoes I want without having to dip into money made at work. I mean why wouldn't I? For example I buy a couple pairs of Yeezys at $220 each and essentially make 300-600$ profit from each shoe. So then that money buys me way more shoes as well as puts money in my pocket to pay for my car loan and much more. I mean if people weren't paying insane amounts of money for them then I wouldn't be doing it.

I bypass splash page with my py. script.

jk

 

[Xe4]

If you're buying an item which has effectively unlimited supply, even if it's supply constrained, that's a bit morally grey, even if it is a huge inconvenience to someone else.

If you scalp tickets or one time rare items, however, you're fucking garbage. Period.

 

[TheTurboFD]

Luckily someone taught me this, and gave me a lot of resources to calculate eBay fees, shipping etc. So I am making about the same as my job and maybe a bit more, even after paying for all my expenses to get it going. And of course taxes.




I bypass splash page with my py. script.

jk

Funny enough , sneakers made me learn more in programming. Now I have a chat room of bots i made to tell me when certain shoes restock on certain sites.

 

[Rockandrollclown]

If you're buying an item which has effectively unlimited supply, even if it's supply constrained, that's a bit morally grey, even if it is a huge inconvenience to someone else.

If you scalp tickets or one time rare items, however, you're fucking garbage, period.

Pretty much how I feel about it. If the scalping can be bypassed with patience I don't feel particularly bad. Boo hoo you have to wait a month or two to get your toy so someone can make money. If you can make money off of people's impatience more power to you. If you're depriving people of an opportunity completely you're an ass.

 

[Lord Ghirahim]

I rely on scalpers and resellers to get me stuff I can't buy myself, so I can't really complain.

 

[One Eyed Willy]

The market speaks. If someone is willing to spend X amount more for a product, thats the market. I can't hate the player, and I even can hate the game.

 

[CloudWolf]

Scalping regular products is shady, but as long as there are idiots willing to pay those prices, the more power to the resellers.

Scalping tickets and other one of a kind products is a terrible practice though and you're a terrible person if you do that shit. It's literally creating false scarcity in order to take advantage of people.

 

[KAL2006]

What do people think about investors buying up all the property in a town which drives up the house prices. The investor then makes money on rent as due to high house prices people can't afford to buy but only rent.

 

[CloudWolf]

Insider trading should be treated as such regardless of whether it is trading in stocks or concert tickets.

Don't blame the scalpers in these cases though. In situations like that it is usually the artist of venue using the scalper as a scapegoat for high ticket prices.

The artist/venue gets a cut of the scalper's profits and can keep an artificially low face value on the tickets so they don't piss off the fans.

I'm 99% sure this isn't the case. The artist/venue gets a cut of the original retail price, not the scalper's price. There are some rare cases where this happens (when a venue themselves open up their website for resellers), but I seriously doubt any of the profits made on websites like StubHub or TicketSwap go to the original venue/artist.

If that was the case, they wouldn't be cracking down on scalpers so hard. I don't know how it is in the US, but in The Netherlands most ticket sales agencies put a limit on the number of tickets you can buy at one time to specifically combat scalpers. Of course it doesn't work because of bots and IP proxies, but there is an active battle going on. They're not quietly letting it happen.

 

[Lothars]

No. Nobody made you buy that $800 PS2 or $300 concert ticket.

Your level of "genuine" enthusiasm doesn't entitle you to anything over someone motivated purely by profit. You have every right to be mad about it, but scalping is never wrong. First come first serve.

Scalping is wrong constantly especially with concert tickets. They are not doing anything positive and there should be rules preventing scalping for concert tickets.

 

[vern]

Wait until it's something your kid is looking forward to and tell me if you feel the same.

I don't have Any kids but I remember learning the lesson that I don't always get what I want just because I want it.