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Jeff Sessions of Alabama confirmed as US Attorney General
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DangerMouse
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This.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Theres playing the long game, and then theres being career politicians. Fucking GROSS
This is why I cant buy into Elizebeth Warrens choice quotes on doing what needa to be done in the long term. Whos doing whats right and whos doing what's right for themselves has been blurred completely.
plagiarize
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On basically all the issues I care most about, he is straight up GOP.
DangerMouse
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Truth. And no one holds their asses to the fire on it.
theignoramus
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I didnt see his facial expression. To be fair to the man, it couldve been a sardonic clap, it was pretty brief.
Baroquemantic
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Not surprised that a bunch of shit people voted for a fellow piece of shit. Goddammit this is infuriating.
RPGCrazied
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After the DeVos nightmare, anyone will get confirmed. Now the health, EPA guy is next. Lets destroy those while we are at it. /s
You are such a racist piece of shit.
Yep, we all knew they were all getting confirmed but it's just another gut punch when it becomes reality. I have no idea how I can even function with all this devastation. Everything is going to hell and there's no hope in sight.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Lmaooo
well hello there. this is the pinky you're willing to lose?
At least that's one myth we managed to dispel. There are no safety checks. Once the train starts moving, there is no stopping it, for the next few years we're speeding down this track and nobody knows where it will take us.
elrechazado
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Yes? Look at wv's voting results.
Don't forget the FCC with the guy that wants to destroy net neutrality.
BlueTsunami
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And already cutting subsidies to low income broadband users. 9 out of 900 companies or so but still. Two weeks in? Hold on to your butts.
Yoshimitsu126
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Okay you guys in the first page are kinda scaring me. As a US minority and relatively new to US politics how bad is he towards minority? And if possible to each race/ethnicity of minority?
Well his nomination to the federal judiciary was rejected because he was too racist. In the 80s.
Empyrean Heaven
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He's up for reelection in 2018 in the reddest state in the union. The dude needs to do something to keep his seat.
metalslimer
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Expect investigations into police department misconduct to drop precipitously. Trump is also shifting resources away from targeting white hate groups so it's certainly a great time to be a neo nazi!
Yoshimitsu126
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Wow that's...
And I'm guessing he was running from Alabama at that time too?
He's a Democrat like David Clarke's a democratic.
plagiarize
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How many red state Dems saves themselves into the midterms by opposing Obamacare? I don't think this strategy is going to work in 2018, but maybe I will be wrong.
I just don't buy it that this is going to be the thing that clinches it for him next year.
Yup. He was an outspoken opponent of civil rights.
Rollo Tomasi
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Wow, just found out Manchin's daughter is the CEO of EpiPen, which is being investigated by the Justice Department...
https://twitter.com/DCRobMan/status/829504542442127362
https://twitter.com/DCRobMan/status/829504542442127362
Yoshimitsu126
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ElectricThunder
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With how poorly just the cabinet wranglings are going, I shudder to imagine the state of things when the actual business of governing* gets fully underway.
Shambles doesn't even begin to describe the Dems at this junction, even the lack of raw votes is the least of the woes that have come to a head.
Each appointee generally increases the danger level precipitously for a wide swath of folks at a time...
Shambles doesn't even begin to describe the Dems at this junction, even the lack of raw votes is the least of the woes that have come to a head.
Each appointee generally increases the danger level precipitously for a wide swath of folks at a time...
ultratruman
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The Electoral College, that's why.
1. White working class voters have a disproportionately large influence on the electoral college due to their demographic dominance in many big states.
2. The Republicans have an inate advantage in the EC system due to their support being spread out across the US, instead of concentrated in big cities. There's a reason why the last 2 popular vote/electoral college splits have favoured the GOP candidate. Imagine Hillary winning if Trump had beat her by 3 million votes: it's impossible.
Instead of thinking about things like the Comey letter that cost Hillary a percent or half, ask yourself why her candidacy was so vulnerable that 1% tipped the balance.
Also, keep in mind this was just 1 election. Looking at the broader picture under Obama, the Democratic party has been electorally destroyed these past 9 years. They now hold less power, in the states and in DC, than at any time since 1928.
For all the rhetoric about the New America and an impervious Democratic party bolstered by minorities, the reality has been much different. Trump actually did better with Latinos, especially Latino men, than Romney. Ethnic minorities and young people did not turn out for Hillary in the way Democrats expected. Relying on 'minorities', a group of extremely diverse voters with diverse values and cultures, to always strongly vote against the white core is just not an effective strategy.
As much as we all agree with these things, the Democratic party needs a message beyond just inclusivity and cultural progressiveness.
plagiarize
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80,000 votes in three states. That's all we needed.
Maayyyyybe campaigning in those states or trying to get out the vote would have made a difference.
But I'm sure the only answer to stop white supremacy is to do whatever white people want.
plagiarize
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That's not a great look.
Mm yeah how's the swamp draining working out?
ultratruman
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OK, instead of thinking seriously about the horrifying state of the Democratic party, just keep pretending that a more centrist, jobs orientated Democratic party = supporting white supremacy. I don't remember Obama donning the white hood in 08, but I guess not immediately championing gay marriage was bad enough.
He has plenty more six character pinkies he farmed last year where this one came from.
brickarts295
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Look at this unedited stack of horror.
Damn this is too perfect.
It's cheques and balances my friend.
Bernie was right.
OuterLimits
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West Virginia election results.
Trump 68%
Clinton 26%
WV has become one of the most red states in the country in Presidential elections. Romney won by 25%, but then Trump won by a whopping 42%. It's a state where quite a few Democrats crossed over to Trump, even though they still will often vote Democrat on a local and state level.
During the 90s, WV went big for Bill Clinton, but it's changed drastically.
So even if Manchin lost in a primary, the Dems would likely get slaughtered if the GOP candidate claimed to be supportive of Trump.
plagiarize
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Obama didn't do what you are proposing though, did he? Not in 08 or 12. There's some good information to suggest that supporting Trayvon Martin is what lost him support in those states, not going more left wing and ignoring jobs.
But again, you still haven't explained how my crazy idea of campaigning in those states or in the case of PA in the rural areas and doing more to get the vote out in them wouldn't have made the difference. But sure keep saying it's a horrifying state when we barely lost despite some bad strategic decisions and a whole heap of shit that went against us which won't be easy for the GOP to replicate against the next candidate.
Certainly, despite winning the popular vote and making gains elsewhere, what we need to do is abandon all our principles and stop working so hard for minorities.
I'm not saying that wouldn't necessarily be a winning strategy, I'm just pointing out that it clearly isn't the only possible solution here. And that I'm not comfortable putting white people first.
We don't need to. And they're going to get at least four years of being put first with Trump and co.
Again. We. Barely. Lost. We. Made. Clear. Campaign. Mistakes.
There are many lessons to learn here other than a suggestion of abandoning the focus on minorities and appeasing white people instead.
Let me guess, it wouldn't be any skin off your nose?
plagiarize
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He's likely to get slaughtered anyway. If your state was that on board with Trump, how are you winning against a pro Trump GOP candidate? Either they stay pro Trump and he's going to lose anyway, or they don't and someone who is more of a Democrat might have a chance.
And if he's going to side with the GOP on shit like this what does it really do for us that he has a D after his name? If he won't vote against a Sessions of all people? Is he ever going to be the deciding vote against the Republicans in a 51 to 49 win? If not... what good is he to us?
In 2012 Romney won WV 62% to Obama's 36%
In 2012 Joe Manchin won re-election 61% to 37%
WV votes are racists who also find Democratic labor/econ policy preferable to Republican labor/econ policy. They prioritize their racism over economics like most Southern whites, but if you have a racist Democrat who supports labor vs. a racist Republican who supports big business, they will vote for the racist Democrat.
Manchin is a racist union guy, which is why he is able to be successful in WV.
and like it or not Democrats need these racist labor types if they want to have any sort of governing power while the Senate is still a thing. There are more tiny states that are mostly white than there are multicultural states with huge minority populations. Having everyone run on Social Justice gives the Dems a hard ceiling of about 40 to 45 senators. If anything the Democrats need more Manchin-types running in places like Iowa, the Dakotas, Kentucky, Missouri, Wisconsin, Ohio, New Hampshire, and Maine.
OuterLimits
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Manchin was pretty loyal to Hillary during the campaign and voted against Devos with all the other Democrats. However, he is going to ally on some issues with Trump since he is a more centrist Democrat, and also knows that Trump has very high support in his state. Manchin is also well liked, but if he votes against Trump on everything, his favorability will likely tank.
A California or NY style Democrat isn't going to be very successful in West Virginia. That is the reality. Better to have a centrist Democrat who will piss you off at times, than a Republican winning who will fully support Trump on almost everything.
plagiarize
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That just brings me back to my last point. On which issue is he going to be the 1 in 51? If he isn't ever going to be the 1 in 51 opposing Trump, what does it matter if he is D or R if he is never the decisive vote against something Trump tries to do? I guess we shall see what happens going forwards, but I doubt the GOP will give the Dems any chance of getting 51 votes against Trump with or without Manchin.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Obama is about to take MLK's place in the starter deck, isn't he -_-
plagiarize
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If he supports Trump on the environment, gun control, gay rights and women's health... when do we expect him to fight him? Is it just education or will he fight for refugees and immigrants too?
Please. Perry for all his hucksterism is nowhere near the atrocity of the Sessions nom.Maybe?
With this Goldman cabinet, US Hedgemoney is certainly stronger than ever!
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