There are a bunch of rock trolls in 3.
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There are a bunch of rock trolls in 3.
waxinlyrical
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Most factions generally have a way to mitigate her damage, just by having a unit that grows in strength. Monsters have ancient foglet, ST has smuggler, SK has Axeman with savage bear (or Champion of Champions if you're going to be cute), and NG has no shortage of single large units. As long as she doesn't hit multiple units over multiple turns it's not that bad.
TimeEffect
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I use ST deck, and one of the gold cards can take off 6 damage. But when the blue deck plays her, she gets a +2 which makes her hard to remove.
I have other cards to help, mostly Demetrium bomb + trap cards, but it's a lot of effort.
She's not bad at all, but she seems extremely useful in that I cant see people not using her.
I just played a pretty strange match. It was a Weather Monster Mirror where I played Eredin and my opponent played Dagon. I won a really close Round 1 and was left with a 4-Strength Eredin and my opponent a Foglet when the fog went away. My hand wasn't all that great so I went for card advantage rather than try to milk cards and passed right away. And then my opponent passed with no board! I think that he was thinking the same thing I did but forgot that I had won Round 1.
Still, she's probably the #1 card for any beginner to craft. She's a great Gold card that can be put into literally every deck. Ciri would be the other card in this category, but you automatically get a free one when you hit level 18.
Yeah, that's a powerful card, and it's usually easier to play around her than to try to remove her. For a faction like Skellige that doesn't have an easy way to damage Gold cards, I don't think I'd bother. Either play around, or pass the turn she's played. Honestly, I find Rot Tossers a lot harder to deal with - they're really good against everything other than Consume Monsters.
Still, she's probably the #1 card for any beginner to craft. She's a great Gold card that can be put into literally every deck. Ciri would be the other card in this category, but you automatically get a free one when you hit level 18.
TheQuickBrownFox
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I seem to forget whom won the rounds all the time, but mines the opposite. Throwing second round forgetting I lost the first =/
Yeah, I got back up to spot 18. After dropping to like 1200 the other day, I'm tired of the slingshotting this season, I'm camping now.
Yea I crawled back up to around 374 on leaderboard, I can get higher maybe but the risk is not worth the reward. Gonna camp for a few days again till I drop to around 500 maybe.
Trying out Nilfgaard in casual in the meantime since I now have a lot of those cards too. Fun to play! Though I'm not winning much tonight so far, it's fun to play something I never reallly played before. I did before but not with all the good cards. Still missing a few silvers but almost have them.
But yea any new stuff or more info about new things would be nice. They've been very hush about new things lately, felt like they were more open about new stuff in the past on reddit/discord before. (nilfgaard stream aside)
They have all the youtubers and commander's horn talkjing about the position patch lately. Wonder if that's next, personally I wanted the intro story they were going to do next.
TimeEffect
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Within 3-4 turns, the Nilfgaard decks are able to see all my cards, and I just cant manage to beat them. Any advice? Seems like they have so much versatility since they can also rearrange and manipulate their decks to draw certain cards
Always plays the same way too.
3 Alchemists cards that reveal my hand, with 2 of those siege cards that do damage to every card revealed, and then they have total control of my ST deck, which relies on secrecy and special-blocks
Not to mention that the Nilf decks rarely have special cards, as their unit cards tend to do all the effects, and are incredibly high powered too.
I think the alchemist is a bronze card with 7 power.
Always plays the same way too.
3 Alchemists cards that reveal my hand, with 2 of those siege cards that do damage to every card revealed, and then they have total control of my ST deck, which relies on secrecy and special-blocks
Not to mention that the Nilf decks rarely have special cards, as their unit cards tend to do all the effects, and are incredibly high powered too.
I think the alchemist is a bronze card with 7 power.
What rank? Reveal nilfgaard is like the least played deck ever because it's so bad. The rare times I see them they reveal my hand in 1 round and then they just lose all steam and lose. They have strong high power units but that just sets them up for easy removal as well.
go_straight
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I've played this game for a couple of weeks, maybe a month after the closed beta went live last year. Now that I'd like to come back to play, is there something I should know?
You should be killing those siege units when they first show up. If they aren't damaging you each time they reveal then you should be in the clear easily. If you are relying on a trap ST deck then play something else, it's not good to begin with and if you are seeing reveal Nilf in your rank then it's doubly bad for you.
*You can still play some face down cards but it sounds like you rely heavily on the fireball traps, scorch gold, and the like if I read this right.
Also bronze cards are meant to have an effective power of 8 so the alchemists are not OP in the least.
TimeEffect
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Not saying its OP, just that I have a hard time removing them, and they stack so fast. Ill try to focus on removing those Siege units as it seems like my best option, but often times, the opponent is able to reveal my whole hand and I feel so exposed lol.
I dont notice the deck often, but when I do, it seems extremely effective against me. Guess its just a natural hard counter to my deck style
Depending on where you are on the ladder, it's worth it to carry a few thunders and since you're ST, you can use mercs and aglais to pull them when needed.
TimeEffect
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Ive been slightly modifying my deck here and there but Im like rank 1500 or so and find my deck very effective. Guess Ill just have to accept that the Nilf expose deck will be a huge vulnerability for me. Im too afraid to add more cards, but Ill have to give it a go eventually
Thanks!
yo_soy_el_topo
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Does anyone know how to watch the full card creation video they were supposed to do?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/127993122
edit: starts at 6:58 - and lol, Maude formerly of Sourcefeed, my gf is gonna be impressed hahaha
yo_soy_el_topo
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Great thank you for the link!
sackboy2197
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Has there still been no mention on when the closed beta will end? I'd like to know if I have to hurry to get those nice rewards or if I can wait a bit more before working on them.
They will give a month notice. Stream later tonight, hopefully they will announce it there but I think it will just be about the next patch, which will have new UI maybe and the positioning patch for sure.
sackboy2197
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That's good to hear
I'll at least try to level as much as possible, not sure how much I could progress on ranked with my random decks.Spring 2017
Stream starting in 10 minutes: https://www.twitch.tv/cdprojektred
ThreePiMatt
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Only looked at some card changes, is the balance and positioning changes same patch or is positioning stuff further down the line?
As for changes, the only changes for NR I've seen are for gold cards, Dijkstra and Philippa being the two biggest. I would call the changes "interesting" but don't really synergize with NR in any meaningful way. Not to mention NR's problem mostly revolves around bad bronze cards and a trait that doesn't synergize with two of three leaders.
As for changes, the only changes for NR I've seen are for gold cards, Dijkstra and Philippa being the two biggest. I would call the changes "interesting" but don't really synergize with NR in any meaningful way. Not to mention NR's problem mostly revolves around bad bronze cards and a trait that doesn't synergize with two of three leaders.
Here's a list of the upcoming changes:
http://gwentify.com/upcoming-positi...dates-avatars-and-emotes-in-the-future-patch/
They may be still updating it, so don't expect this to be final yet.
I'm glad that I switched to Queensguard because now I'm only affected by the Restore and Birna Bran changes.
http://gwentify.com/upcoming-positi...dates-avatars-and-emotes-in-the-future-patch/
They may be still updating it, so don't expect this to be final yet.
I'm glad that I switched to Queensguard because now I'm only affected by the Restore and Birna Bran changes.
RespectThySole
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The stacked Q1 and my love for Overwatch has kept me from playing this yet even though I have a code and really liked Gwent in TW3.
Is this any good?
Is this any good?
Yeah I think the game is already good in its current state. But it is also quite far from the final product in terms of UI, modes, mechanics and number of cards.
A big patch (see above) is due very soon and will introduce the concept of positioning for example.
So it is still very much a work in progress, but I believe the core is very solid, and it doesn't hurt that it is a nice answer at the frustration that Hearthstone can induce.
toastyToast
Member
I can see what they're going for with the positioning mechanic. Seeing it in action and the changes it prompted gives me the feeling that it makes the game slightly more boring but I'd have to give it a shot myself.
Some of the card changes had me scratching my head though like Dijkstra and Draug. Although I guess since they buffed a lot of stuff with the positioning change there aren't oo many units under 3 strength. Dijkstra is gonna be dead a lot of time.
Also the damaging golds not hitting other golds stinks
Some of the card changes had me scratching my head though like Dijkstra and Draug. Although I guess since they buffed a lot of stuff with the positioning change there aren't oo many units under 3 strength. Dijkstra is gonna be dead a lot of time.
Also the damaging golds not hitting other golds stinks
waxinlyrical
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Same, I don't think I like the new Djkstra :/ I think there's something flavorful about it, since he's supposed to be a master spy, but putting Djkstra in your deck means you are committing to only playing 3 gold cards in your deck, albeit with much greater consistency. I'm not sure that trade off is worth it. Maybe there's a good combo there with Ciri
ash? My gut instinct is still that all these row positioning changes are an unnecessary complication that doesn't add that much depth but I'll reserve judgement till I actually play it.
What's with the necker change?
Is devourer an actual card, or is it a card category like permadeath or ambush?
Yeah, that designation confused me at first, too, but it's irrelevant.
Nekkers are just no longer breedable.