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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread (READ MOD POST)

Plum

Member
How many hours in are you?

I've finished the Prologue and (was blocked by installation) before the first proper mission on Eos. I know that the things I mentioned will likely come up in side quests but the game doesn't seem that it has the writing chops to make up for its "ancient evil" main plot. There's also the fact that, as rashbeep said before, there's only 2 new alien races; one of which is a generic race of war-fighting identical men that look like they're straight out of bloody Saints Row IV.

EDIT: For clarification on that SRIV point:

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Saints-Row-IV-Aliens-RealGamerNewz-Presents-Gameplay.jpg

I know they don't look the same but damn are they similar. Archon even has a damn cape!
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
I have a friend so excited for the release she's on media blackout for this, including review scores. She's got it preordered and shut me down when I tried to at least draw her attention to checking out a review first, oh well. Hopefully she'll enjoy it anyway.
Guaranteed she will as long as she went full media blackout.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
I have a friend so excited for the release she's on media blackout for this, including review scores. She's got it preordered and shut me down when I tried to at least draw her attention to checking out a review first, oh well. Hopefully she'll enjoy it anyway.

She will. She's done the best thing too, form her own opinion on it.
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
I've had a vision and here is what I think is going to happen.

The majority of people that wind up getting this now or in the future are going to play it. They are going to have fun. And then they are going to agree with the score. Loving the game and the time they had with it while at the same time wanting things to get better in the future.
So basically FFXV?

I can see that happening
 

rashbeep

Banned
Going after gangs, solving mysteries and helping people around the Citadel (Mass Effect) and Taris (KOTOR) were some of my favorite moments in Bioware games. When they first announced Mass Effect 4 and hinted that they'd abandon the lone hero/savior of the galaxy trope I was hoping they'd go in this direction...

Oh well, at least we have Cyberpunk 2077.

Funny enough, Bioware already had a fantastic setting to base a standalone game off of (the Citadel) that was never fully explored in any of the previous games.
 
If the new IP takes off, will there be a future? Don't know if they'll go back to Mass Effect if the new IP takes off and they shut down Montreal.

lol.

According to the tweet and list that keeps getting posted of ME Metacritic scores this would be their first ME that was anywhere even approaching a dud.

Do you think that they would really give up the race after tripping once?

It is incredibly hard to just come up with a new hit IP these days. It really is just flinging stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. They would be crazy to not at least end this IP on their own terms wherever the devs had road mapped and have the time to actually prepare for what's next for them. I think that is where you see studios doing their best. When they are able to prepare and have time to work on an agreed upon inspiring idea that they think their talents could really lend to.

I'm not defending the state of the game as it is btw. I think they need a loud and clear message of what needs focus and changed for next time. Whoever that message needs to go to, they will see it now.
 
One person is not responsible for this game. The comparison is crazy. Studying for a test is straightforward. Getting hundreds of people to work together over the course of years of bad management and grueling work? Not so straightforward. The people who worked in an environment like that, put in the hours, and produced a game that millions of people are going to enjoy have every right to be proud, lowish Metascore or not.
Sure those people can be proud of their work on the game. That's not the same thing as being proud of the game itself. I've worked on bad projects that were mismanaged from the top and doomed to fail. Poorly defined goals. Constantly changing specs. Management not listening to the tech guys, and telling us "Just make it work". I was still proud of my work and what I was able to do despite the problems, but in no way was I going to say I was proud of the project. I'd complain about that just like everybody else.
 

wamberz1

Member
Karak's review said that it was very sparse, minimalistic, and occasionally drops out when you're exploring.

From the ACG review, they said there were a few tracks that were remixed from the original trilogy. Other than that, it's pretty mediocre.
awwww boooo. I was expecting more from the series that brought us the godliness that is suicide mission.

Oh well, not like this year is hurting for great soundtracks.
 

Karak

Member
Next Mass Effect (assuming they ever make one) should focus on you running around the Citadel solving crimes and shit. Space P.I. with a lower budget and more contained/focused story.

I just want Prey 2

I did an entire video about my desire for Michael Hogan to voice act a private investigator on the citadel. I would die.
 

JJH

Member
Can't say I'm surprised given Bioware's output for their past couple of games. Will wait for it to be incredibly cheap before I pick it up. If I ever do.
 

smisk

Member
This sounds a little disappointing in that it doesn't innovate enough, and is kinda janky, but I'm sure I'll still have a good time. It's still a Mass Effect game. The real question is if I want to pay $60 or wait a few months until it's $40.
 

Iceternal

Member
Well... Bioware is officially out of my safe studios list now...

Damn I used to stay awake at night the days before release of their older games because of the hype
 
Going after gangs, solving mysteries and helping people around the Citadel (Mass Effect) and Taris (KOTOR) were some of my favorite moments in Bioware games. When they first announced Mass Effect 4 and hinted that they'd abandon the lone hero/savior of the galaxy trope I was hoping they'd go in this direction...

Oh well, at least we have Cyberpunk 2077.

Dude, have you seen the new Amazon pilot for OASIS? I want a game like that! Why can't I have a game like that?!

Something slow and less focused on combat. Something intimate where you really get to know people. And a mystery that you are trying to solve while not set on a large stage.

Moreover, the environment in OASIS is very simplistic with the desert landscape and the futuristic concrete habitats and definitely something that could be very well and more easily done that most complex stages set in other game worlds.
 

Kumquat

Member
The animations have been discussed to death, rebirth, and then death again so I won't bother with them. Until I eventually play the game proper I just can't hide my disappointment at how such an amazing premise was ruined.

Essentially, Andromeda's basic elevator pitch is "you are head of a group colonizing a far-flung galaxy." That sounds amazing and practically writes itself. Internal politics, mutinies, harsh alien environments, natives you need to negotiate with and understand or kill and conquer. Instead, the game decides to focus on the most generic "chosen one must fight big bad" storyline out there and, as I've explained in other threads, doesn't even accomplish it all that well. Playing through the opening I got no sense of things being alien, or new, I was fighting a race of identical-looking dudes with an evil leader, I was still fighting the Reapers/Geth/Cerberus. Then when I got back to the not-Citadel I just became Shepherd: Slightly Awkward Edition, a guy/girl who has to defeat a faceless alien threat in order to save everyone, I wanted to be Picard: Slightly Awkward Edition instead. The game even sets up a potential power struggle in Cora yet brushes it aside almost immediately.

That its gameplay seems to be so in line with DA:I in terms of overall structure just further adds to my disappointment, but the main thing I dislike is how such a unique subject matter for a story has been completely mishandled.

Well said. I remember way back when the premise was found out and all of us on this board were so excited including me. So much possibility! I was stoked with the idea of carving a place out for humanity in the frontier of an unknown galaxy. Estbalish a beach head or whatever. So much potential gone to waste because the writers are inept.
 
This sounds a little disappointing in that it doesn't innovate enough, and is kinda janky, but I'm sure I'll still have a good time. It's still a Mass Effect game. The real question is if I want to pay $60 or wait a few months until it's $40.

It came out in one hell of a packed quarter so waiting has never been easier.
 
Well, this is unfortunate. Seems the game reaches beyond its grasp and fumbles the execution by adding a lot of small discomforts into an unpleasant general experience.

That said, making a new ME game and somehow growing beyond the shadow of the original trilogy seemed like it would be an impossible task, and, well, impossible it is apparently.
 
I've finished the Prologue and (was blocked by installation) before the first proper mission on Eos. I know that the things I mentioned will likely come up in side quests but the game doesn't seem that it has the writing chops to make up for its "ancient evil" main plot. There's also the fact that, as rashbeep said before, there's only 2 new alien races; one of which is a generic race of war-fighting identical men that look like they're straight out of bloody Saints Row IV.
I'm told the game actually comes together in the ways you described, plotwise, by the second and third acts. I'm mostly bummed about the general consensus regarding the new conversation system being a dud and not allowing much player agency, but we'll see how it goes.
 

sirap

Member
Dude, have you seen the new Amazon pilot for OASIS? I want a game like that! Why can't I have a game like that?!

Something slow and les focused on combat. Something intimate where you really get to know people. And a mystery that you are trying to solve while not set on a large stage.

Moreover, the environment in OASIS is very simplistic with the desert landscape and the futuristic concrete habitats and definitely something that could be very well and more easily done that most complex stages set in other game worlds.

Yeah that sounds perfect. I don't need to save the galaxy or the entire human race to feel important, just let me affect the lives of a dozen or so people T_T

Gonna go watch OASIS now.
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
Dude, have you seen the new Amazon pilot for OASIS? I want a game like that! Why can't I have a game like that?!

Something slow and less focused on combat. Something intimate where you really get to know people. And a mystery that you are trying to solve while not set on a large stage.

Moreover, the environment in OASIS is very simplistic with the desert landscape and the futuristic concrete habitats and definitely something that could be very well and more easily done that most complex stages set in other game worlds.
Fuck, more series to watch
Well... Bioware is officially out of my safe studios list now...

Damn I used to stay awake at night the days before release of their older games because of the hype
The ship has sailed
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Don't understand this?

Its a social media post listing of the metacritic (review aggregate website) scores of all the games in the Mass Effect franchise, meant to compare and contrast Andromeda's relatively low score in the 70s with the original 3 games which were all 90s.
 
Omg. I hope all the GameStop clerks around the country at least TRY to warn people before they cash them out for this game.
Why? Caveat emptor, baby. It's not like the game is fundamentally broken in the same way that some steam greenlight and early access titles are. Why should a retail chain be expected to tell a prospective customer not to purchase a decent if not amazing entry in a long running franchise? What would they even say? "You shouldn't buy it. It's only got a 75 on metacritic, so you definitely won't enjoy it," or something?

Name one sphere of entertainment where this would be expected. I can just picture it at the cinema:
"Two tickets to Paul Blart: Fart Mart, please."
"Uh... Sir, that movie is shit, with a 4 on Rotten Tomatoes. You should probably see 'Depressing Indie Drama' instead, as it's Certified Fresh."

Nah. The buyer should be responsible for making informed decisions about their purchases.
 
ME1 was always the weakest of the original trilogy for me (unpopular opinion I know), so as soon as they seemed to be heavily basing it off ME1 I was disappointed.

ME2 was sublime. One of the best games I've ever played. The combination of solid gameplay, roleplaying and the epic story really felt amazing to me. That suicide mission music & you leading the squad you'd built carefully... nothing has come close in terms of story for me since.

I'll wait until this drops to a reasonable price at Christmas... I'd say I'd buy a decent sequel, but something tells me if this does poorly EA are more likely to fund that Remastered Trilogy they've been denying for years.
 

Trace

Banned
Omg. I hope all the GameStop clerks around the country at least TRY to warn people before they cash them out for this game.

What? It's not a retailer's job to inform a customer on reviews for something they purchase. "Ohh by the way the reviews for this movie are really bad, you probably don't want to watch it".
 
Its a social media post listing of the metacritic (review aggregate website) scores of all the games in the Mass Effect franchise, meant to compare and contrast Andromeda's relatively low score in the 70s with the original 3 games which were all 90s.
Oh, thought there was a deeper meaning behind this.
 

Grakl

Member
Why? Caveat emptor, baby. It's not like the game is fundamentally broken in the same way that some steam greenlight and early access titles are. Why should a retail chain be expected to tell a prospective customer not to purchase a decent if not amazing entry in a long running franchise? What would they even say? "You shouldn't buy it. It's only got a 75 on metacritic, so you definitely won't enjoy it," or something?

Name one sphere of entertainment where this would be expected. I can just picture it at the cinema:
"Two tickets to Paul Blart: Fart Mart, please."
"Uh... Sir, that movie is shit, with a 4 on Rotten Tomatoes. You should probably see 'Depressing Indie Drama' instead, as it's Certified Fresh."

Nah. The buyer should be responsible for making informed decisions about their purchases.
Are you telling us you like Paul Blart
 

MTC100

Banned
Gamespot was pretty mean by giving the game a 6, this is insane, I don't believe it is that bad, from what I've seen it's probably an 8 but nothing less. Sure the animations are wonky and the missions generic but that doesn't justify a 6...

I really hate that they made an open world game out of mass effect, they should have just stuck with the ME3 concept and create a great compelling game with the same engine.
 
Why? Caveat emptor, baby. It's not like the game is fundamentally broken in the same way that some steam greenlight and early access titles are. Why should a retail chain be expected to tell a prospective customer not to purchase a decent if not amazing entry in a long running franchise? What would they even say? "You shouldn't buy it. It's only got a 75 on metacritic, so you definitely won't enjoy it," or something?

Name one sphere of entertainment where this would be expected. I can just picture it at the cinema:
"Two tickets to Paul Blart: Fart Mart, please."
"Uh... Sir, that movie is shit, with a 4 on Rotten Tomatoes. You should probably see 'Depressing Indie Drama' instead, as it's Certified Fresh."

Nah. The buyer should be responsible for making informed decisions about their purchases.

Baited!

:D
 

Grakl

Member
Gamespot was pretty mean by giving the game a 6, this is insane, I don't believe it is that bad, from what I've seen it's probably an 8 but nothing less. Sure the animations are wonky and the missions generic but that doesn't justify a 6...

I really hate that they made an open world game out of mass effect, they should have just stuck with the ME3 concept and create a great compelling game with the same engine.
Good thing you've played through the game like they have
 
i'm... perplexed..
with all the shit this game is getting on gaf and on other forums, i'd expect a lot of review under the 7... either people are wrong, or there's some serious moneyhatting ongoing...
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
It's honestly a damn shame what happened here.

I saw someone in the last thread compare it to Destiny ending up in the 70-range on Metacritic but that's just not a fair comparison. Destiny is an MMO-lite. It constantly changes over time and it was nearly undeniably a mess in its first few months.

Mass Effect: Andromeda is going to stay Mass Effect: Andromeda. They might fix some things here and there but it's incredibly unlikely that it makes the jump Destiny did with House of Wolves and then The Taken King.

Like I said before, I think Bioware absolutely needed this to be 90+ on Metacritic due to the backlash against ME3 and the wait between games. This has to be an incredible disappointment for them.
 

Lorcain

Member
This is an unfortunate time to release an average game from a beloved franchise. ME:A is smack dab in the middle of a great run of games like RE7, Nioh, Nier, HZD, Zelda BoTW, & Yakuza 0. Not a lot of room for average.
 

MTC100

Banned
Good thing you've played through the game like they have

It doesn't matter, I've played No Man's Sky and that got a 7 from GameSpot, I can't imagine a world where this crap is better than Mass Effect, even if it has problems.
 

Swiggins

Member
Kinda unreal to see so many write Bioware off after one lukewarm product. Especially when GG just went from Shadowfall to Horizon.

That's Gaf (and the internet in general) for ya. Despite carrying the name, the new Bioware has almost none of the original talent that made the original trilogy, the new team will hopefully learn from their mistakes here and make a dope sequel.

I'm still looking forward to getting my hands on the game, Metacritic scores be damned.
 

Grakl

Member
It doesn't matter, I've played No Man's Sky and that got a 7 from GameSpot, I can't imagine a world where this crap is better than Mass Effect, even if it has problems.
Playing the game doesn't matter if you wanna give it a score?
 

Lt-47

Member
It's honestly a damn shame what happened here.

I saw someone in the last thread compare it to Destiny ending up in the 70-range on Metacritic but that's just not a fair comparison. Destiny is an MMO-lite. It constantly changes over time and it was nearly undeniably a mess in its first few months.

Mass Effect: Andromeda is going to stay Mass Effect: Andromeda. They might fix some things here and there but it's incredibly unlikely that it makes the jump Destiny did with House of Wolves and then The Taken King.

Like I said before, I think Bioware absolutely needed this to be 90+ on Metacritic due to the backlash against ME3 and the wait between games. This has to be an incredible disappointment for them.

No doubt about it. Then again if the development of that game was as terrible as most people think they probably expected it and tried their best to save the game.
 

FredX72

Member
Omg. I hope all the GameStop clerks around the country at least TRY to warn people before they cash them out for this game.

She probably will. As would most people who are free to come to their own conclusions rather than the rampant negativity of the internet.

I enjoyed so many more games back in the ps2/GC/Xbox era before I became a forum junkee.

What? So you wish people could avoid the rampant negativity of the internet but you want GameStop to enforce that negativity in the real world instead?
 

Swiggins

Member
This happened to me with Red Steel

Real talk, when I was around 16 years old, I stopped a guy from buying a copy of Sonic 06 at a local Gamestop. The dude literally turned and asked me if I thought it was a good game and I told him, "Nah man, that game's terrible..." dude walked out of the store and the guy behind the register told me point blank, "If you ever ruin a sale for me ever again I'll have you banned from this premises."

He wasn't there for much longer after that.
 

Silvard

Member
What the fuck? From the way some people in this thread (and in general) are talking you'd think Bioware is releasing Super Big Rigs 64 or something that bricks your console as opposed to a competent (mediocre at worst, good at best) game, albeit a disappointing new installment of an storied franchise. One that you're even likely to enjoy if you're a fan of the genre or the setting.

Omg. I hope all the GameStop clerks around the country at least TRY to warn people before they cash them out for this game.

Seriously what the fuck? This is missing a sarcasm tag, isn't it?

I see that it is. The fact so many can't tell is pretty...telling.
 

Femto.

Member
i'm... perplexed..
with all the shit this game is getting on gaf and on other forums, i'd expect a lot of review under the 7... either people are wrong, or there's some serious moneyhatting ongoing...

The writing of the reviews with scores 8 and above don't seem to be in-line with one another. Like, the opinions/thoughts expressed in the writing don't match up with the score given.
 

Maledict

Member
ME1 was always the weakest of the original trilogy for me (unpopular opinion I know), so as soon as they seemed to be heavily basing it off ME1 I was disappointed.

ME2 was sublime. One of the best games I've ever played. The combination of solid gameplay, roleplaying and the epic story really felt amazing to me. That suicide mission music & you leading the squad you'd built carefully... nothing has come close in terms of story for me since.

I'll wait until this drops to a reasonable price at Christmas... I'd say I'd buy a decent sequel, but something tells me if this does poorly EA are more likely to fund that Remastered Trilogy they've been denying for years.

ME1 being the weakest is the majority opinion, even here. It's just that there are some very vocal fans of the first one who tend to contribute a lot more than others in discussions. ME2 won game of the year when it was released, and is generally regarded as being the high point of the series.
 
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