bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Wow. Great Kolin run for me tonight. Ending rounds with a high counter off a jump-in is just incredible.
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Street Fighter V |OTVII| New Generation - Connection To Haters Was Lost
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Throws can't connect on frame 1 or 2 out of blockstun or wakeup. Since throws have two active frames, the throw is connecting on frame 3 in that instance. So:
- startup frames 1-3 of the throw is covered by the +3 setup
- startup frame 4 is the opponent's first frame after wakeup
- frame 5 (the first active frame) whiffs since the opponent's second frame after wakeup is throw invul
- frame 6 (the second active frame) connects since it is the third frame after the opponent's wakeup
This can be confirmed with characters with 6f command throws: after a +4 situation regular and 5f command throws will whiff* since both active frames overlap the throw invul window, and 6f command throws will land.
* you could connect in this situation if you can manually add a 1f delay but good luck doing that consistently
SolarPowered
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I know other games probably do it just as often, but with Capcom it just feels like there will always be "haves" and "have nots" to me. If you get lucky the character you play falls into the former group instead of the latter. They usually stay there too. It's not like ASW where they go ultra nuclear on top tier characters sometimes. Only Chun seems to have suffered that fate in SFV. I don't think Ryu got as hard and come S2.5 he'll be a solid mid tier.
Just pick a top tier or Karin, bruh.
Marvel
could never
Hell yeah man.
The EX version with that voice line (ENG) is like... ugh fucking crazy good to end a round/game too.
"ON YOUR KNEES!"
Reversal TAP will be in it's throw invul state (frame 3) right after the universal throw invul (2 frames long) period when throw is in active frames. Meaty throws exist because throws have priority over normals/specials if there isn't throw invul involved.
Oh, that's right! It totally slipped my mind that throws have 2 active frames and that they don't just hit at frame 5. This definitely explains my confusion regarding all this.
lucebuce12
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That forward walk is so damn badass.
Marvel
could never
2nd only to Bipson's imho! XD
Zombegoast
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So you come across Laura and try to play Neutral and throws fireballs. But then all of the sudden she throws a EX Shoulder from fullscreen and now it's her turn because of one simple mistake of trying to zone her.
You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
OmegaTreeFish
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Decided to give kolin an honest go and she is actually really fun. However i gotta fight through that period where as soon as you play a real person you get memory wiped and just end up doing random bs because nothing is stuck in your mind yet.
Lost first set. Won second server seems to have gone down during 3rd set which i believe i was winning.
Server down for anyone else?
Lost first set. Won second server seems to have gone down during 3rd set which i believe i was winning.
Server down for anyone else?
CountBlack
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You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
I can't think of a character that can't AA you in the corner after the opponent jumps a tick throw
lucebuce12
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Mistake on your part, good read on her part. You could say the same if Birdie did a Bullhorn/EX bullhorn through that.So you come across Laura and try to play Neutral and throws fireballs. But then all of the sudden she throws a EX Shoulder from fullscreen and now it's her turn because of one simple mistake of trying to zone her.
Or if Cammy V-skilled/EX spirur arrow'd through that. Andso on.
As Countblack said, I can't think of a single character that can't follow up a whiffed tick throw with an anti air in that situation.You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
On an unrelated note, I miss KingBroly. His shitposts were more about the horrible state of the game.
Jumping in the corner is always a gamble, and you risk eating more damage as a result.
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could never
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Love this character. So stylish reminds me of my main from KOF, Mature.
Whoa. Didn't even know she could do that. *makes mental note*
so who is the best Kolin at this moment--or is too early to even know yet?
(also her forward walk is the shit. i have stalked turtlers with her and i'm pretty sure it unnerves them to see her swag.)
I still wanna see The Lone Dragon and KingBroly cage match. Battle for the ages.
Poongko?
Reizo Ryuu
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You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
If you read the tick throw was coming, then just backdash instead, a jump will only punish a command throw.
Also lol you're actually playing with the hitbox viewer on?
Poongko is the most successful one.
UcchedavÄda
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You are going to get clipped if you throw out fireballs without respecting your opponent's toolkit, even at max distance. That's nothing new.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Ah, thanks. Will look up some of his matches. If we get enough people using her, maybe we can eventually answer whose Kolin is the most stylish.
Zombegoast
Member
Birdie's need to be charged and Cammy's is only partially projectile Invincible and can still get hit and V-Skill being too slow to use on reactions. Also moving too much can cause her to throw a DP. instead.
The second example isn't specifically addressing to Laura, I only brought her up because she has one of the better options after a whiff throw.
The whole point of the corner in SFV is using Light meaties/ Frame traps and go for tick throws. Something that V-Reversal are terrible at because they aren't throw invincible and are - OB. It's not like in Killer Instinct where there's actually a 50/50 game. If you try to tick throw in that game and if they read it, you lose your turn unless you use a Shadow Move. Just like in the previous Street Fighter games. If you try to tick throw, you lose your turn.
It's training mode. And back dashes suck in this game.
ThatCrazyGuy
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So you come across Laura and try to play Neutral and throws fireballs. But then all of the sudden she throws a EX Shoulder from fullscreen and now it's her turn because of one simple mistake of trying to zone her.
You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
Seems like they read you.
Reizo Ryuu
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Thought this looked pretty neat.
ShinMaruku
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I have a few matches to share:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh12IpA_cjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmYiZZ7iT_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0neyoaruDAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh12IpA_cjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmYiZZ7iT_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0neyoaruDAA
UcchedavÄda
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How did that happen? A failed mod?
If you are in the EU, then ArcadeWorld UK is pretty good:
https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/products/Sanwa-TP-MA-Board.html
CountBlack
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focusattack.com ?
That shit looks like a broken bayblade
TheTylerRob
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Shimmys are really good for Cammy because of her insane walk speed.
1. Yes, and mid too.
2. Meter is optional.
3. I believe it is counterhit recovery and thus can be crush countered when baited, but not completely sure.
Yes, no, yes.
3 versions are high(for attacks where the character isn't grounded, she have to use this one for things like tatsus, not just jump ins), mid, low counter. Start after 1 frame on the EX versions and 2 on the regular ones. Their recovery is pretty big and leave her in a counter hit-able state.
Ucchedavāda;232803450 said:
A Guile flashkicked me so hard it shattered my stick! I swear!
Ty Count!
Marvel
could never
Absolutely.
When I go back to her I am always shocked at how great she feels to control. I know Chen uses her and shimmies a lot so I hope to put it into my gameplan aswell. She seems the best start for it.
Then I can use it with my main characters.
Why wouldn't you jump tech os in that situation, or jump forward instead of back, or backdash, or tech? You picked a terrible option and were punished for itSo you come across Laura and try to play Neutral and throws fireballs. But then all of the sudden she throws a EX Shoulder from fullscreen and now it's her turn because of one simple mistake of trying to zone her.
You end up in the corner and the one thing you have to worry about is the throw. You see her Cr.LK and you guess that she's going for a tick throw which does and you jumped. But because whiff throws have 18f recovery vs 20/21f in a normal fighting game, Laura can still throw out anything still putting her ADV.
Cool, thanks. So just to confirm, she can't counter a jump in attack then?
Nvm,lol. I read that wrong.
She can with the high counter, it beats any not grounded attack. What she can't counter is fireballs.
Cheers!
You could probably just unsolder the broken PCB bits, figure out which wires correspond to which joystick directions and solder/glue the wires directly to the microswitch terminals.
ColonialHawk
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anyone looking to play right now?
Yeah I'm down. CFN: Bigg_Oggy
Nuki switching to Ibuki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2w8pFAYlVo
Nukibuki?
I prefer Inuki but I'd rather a viable chun even more
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