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It wouldn't surprise me, there were tentative plans for Obi-Wan and Yoda to rematerialize back to life and help Luke at one point in ROTJ.
Oh and there were double Death Stars as well...
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It wouldn't surprise me, there were tentative plans for Obi-Wan and Yoda to rematerialize back to life and help Luke at one point in ROTJ.
Oh and there were double Death Stars as well...
Yeah. Then there's the whole "bring he back to reprise his role!" shit that makes me think.. You.. DID watch EP2 and 3 right
"But he's not that bad of an actor give him another chance!"
*gives him another chance by watching other roles he's played in other films
The answer is still
NO
Chuckie
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Yeah I read this somewhere too. His twin sister was supposed to be a different person and got merged with Leia.
Point is.... they did merge her with Leia. And Obi Wan clearly states that the 'other' Yoda talked about was in fact Leia. So I am not sure why people (not you) are thinking the 'other' could be Anakin... or even worse...fucking Ezra.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
It would be the worst thing for Hayden himself as well. The casting people completely screwed him over by putting him in a role that he was so very unsuited for. Last thing you want to do is remind people of that fact.
Also, young anakin force ghost needs to eliminated from rotj, it's a travesty.
Lifejumper
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He wasn't.
Anakin "died" when he turned to the Dark Side and killed the Younglings. In a way, Anakin ceased to excist and became Darth Vader. However, same could be said when Luke made his father turn to the Light Side. Works both ways and doesn't really bother me.
Only wished Lucas would touch up the OT by only making the Battle of Yavin 4, Hoth and Endor a bit bigger. Although the later is pretty big... If you look at Rogue One and compare it to the Yavin 4 Battle ... the Y4 battle seems so "small".
He was great in Shattered Glass.
The dude was never meant to be a strident leading man, and that movie kind of proved it.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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I mean, the Battle of Yavin actually was pretty small though. It wasn't a large scale offensive like Scarif wound up being. That wouldn't be a touch up, that would be a significant narrative change.
Id be happy for him to reprise his role, i think that there might be a chance to see him in ghost form speaking to Luke, i believe there was some early concept from TFA of Luke doing just this. Rian is a fan of the PT so there's hope. His acting was no more cheesy then Luke in ANH so i dont really see the disconnect.
He also looks more weathered and mature now, he could put in a better performance, so it does make sense.
Anakin died as an old man on the second Death Star. His ghost should be old. George Lucas's retcon makes no sense and is clearly at odds with the story of the movie. Anakin's spirit was not frozen in time when he turned to the dark side, the whole point is that Luke refuses to accept that Anakin is "dead" and is willing to die to prove it. Anakin is Vader, that is why he couldn't let Luke die and chose to destroy the Emperor. Vader is not some demon who possessed Anakin's body.
We met Luke for the first time, so no matter how he acts, that's Luke, that's his character. Anakin however is the man who becomes Vader, a character we already knew, the most bad ass and intimidating man in the galaxy. The Anakin we met didn't align with this at all because Hayden is no good at being intimidating, he has no screen presence, it wasn't believable.
This is 100 percent accurate. When Empire started, Lucas had condensed his original 12 film plan down to a 9 film plan. The original trilogy would conclude Luke's arc by killing his father Vader, leaving the Emperor still alive. Then he would do a prequel trilogy in the 80s, which would focus on the fall of democracy. Then the sequel trilogy would focus on this other, a female Jedi from a far part of the Galaxy. It would also focus on the challenges of the rise of democracy. Her and Luke would team up at the end of 9 sometime in the late 90s to defeat the Emperor.
Lucas scrapped the 9 film plan after Empire went over budget and got out of his control. He also had financial difficulties with the divorce from his wife. Lucas was making these Star Wars movies to fund his dream Lucasfilm commune of rogue filmmakers. This seemed impossible after Empire, so he jammed everything in to one sequel and was calling it a day.
The real tradegy about all that is that Lucas effectively​ denied the audience from seeing Hamill/Fischer/Ford again in their primes, which is a real shame. Their chemistry together was dynamite. But such is life
I dont know, having one death star firing into the other and destroying both wouldve been pretty cool.
molnizzle
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It's already moot because George changed the ending of a 20 year old beloved movie. The point is it's stupid (like so many of his changes).
They aren't ever going to change it back. Kathleen Kennedy in a interview at Celebration said Lucasfilm will never touch the original 6 films from what George's final definitive cuts were.
We have undisputed confirmation finally that the 6 films will remain exactly as Lucas intended them with his alterations and that is the official policy going forward. Surprised it took this long for someone to ask her directly.
molnizzle
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George Lucas also said there would only be 6 Star Wars films total. Things change.
Theatrical editions of the OT will come in time.
Lifejumper
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Link to interview? Thanks.
JimiNutz
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Talking of re-releases and changes...
Going directly from Rogue One to ANH is going to be pretty jarring for future generations I imagine.
Seeing as movies are mostly CG now anyway, and how 'good' Tarkin looked in Rogue One, what are the chances that we see a completely digital remake of the OT in ten years or so?
I'm talking shot for shot, exactly the same movies, same voices, same music but everything CG to make it look less dated?
I'm not saying whether you want to see this but what are the chances in say 10 years of this being announced - maybe at the 50th anniversary?
Going directly from Rogue One to ANH is going to be pretty jarring for future generations I imagine.
Seeing as movies are mostly CG now anyway, and how 'good' Tarkin looked in Rogue One, what are the chances that we see a completely digital remake of the OT in ten years or so?
I'm talking shot for shot, exactly the same movies, same voices, same music but everything CG to make it look less dated?
I'm not saying whether you want to see this but what are the chances in say 10 years of this being announced - maybe at the 50th anniversary?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Incredibly unlikely. That seems extremely expensive for no real purpose. I don't imagine we'll ever get MORE changes either way.
Don't hold your breath. No one who makes decisions is asking for this to happen. I wouldn't be surprised that part of the purchase deal was they couldn't touch/redo/"fix" or whatever any of the movies.
I went straight from Rogue One to A New Hope and to be honest, the only thing that felt jarring was the lightsaber duel between Vader and Obi-wan. That one didn't age well. Thought the rest was fine though.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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There is exactly 0 chance that any such stipulations were made.
I mean, that didn't age well in 1980, lol
Kaneda Shotaro
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Ewan and Hayden will probably be ghosts in 8 along with Yoda.
I just want the Anakin ghost to talk to Ben at least once haha. That would be amazing.
"You fuck up, they keep the door open for you to come back and you keep closing it. Wish I had the opportunities you had..."
I just want the Anakin ghost to talk to Ben at least once haha. That would be amazing.
"You fuck up, they keep the door open for you to come back and you keep closing it. Wish I had the opportunities you had..."
Bobby Roberts
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WhiteRabbitEXE
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I think we may hear Ewan, but I don't think we'll see him. Thinking something like when he's pestering Yoda on Degobah at first.
Kaneda Shotaro
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Damn, wish Kasdan could do the Episode 1 reboot script but it's so far off
We have been told by multiple people at Lucasfilm it isn't in the works and there are no plans for it to happen. Lucasfilm has their canonical editions of the 6 films and they will remain the canonical editions for decades to come.
Just this year alone:
Kathleen Kennedy says they aren't touching them.
Pablo Hidalgo says they are not in the works and the Lucas approved editions are the canonical editions of the films, not theatrical.
The Digital Bits talked to their sources at Lucasfilm and said theatrical editions are not in the works.
People need to. give. it. up.
Link to Kennedy comments:
http://furiousfanboys.com/2017/04/kathleen-kennedy-wont-touch-star-wars-george-left-us/
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However, I would love it if after Episode IX Filoni and co. got the greenlight to remake all the saga films as cartoons.
Omegasquash
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This. There's no way that Disney would have accepted a term like that.
They look dated?? Is that something people really feel? The OT doesn't feel dated to me at all, as a matter of fact CGI tends to date VERY fast, all of the CGI in the prequels alone (and even other movies from just 5+ years back, looks dated already). With the OT the practical effects also really help the used universe look of Star Wars, any kind of remake should and will never happen.
I am totally flabbergasted by such an opinion.
Disney wouldn't even be the one deciding what editions of Star Wars to release. That is Lucasfilm's decision. And no one at Lucasfilm has the "George Lucas raped my childhood" sort of attitude.
I think you got it backwards
I'd be so down for some animated films.
ginger ninja
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Did we get on any new info or y'all just been arguing for the last 50 or so pages ?
CloudyTuba
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It's a Star Wars thread. Take a wild guess.
something something mary sue, something something worst than the prequels something something helicopter shot, something something
You must be new here
Nah no new info, just discussing the trailer (amongst other SW things).
However we did learn that RJ has more creative control with TLJ than with any other film he's worked on.. Much to the dismay of naysayers
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Disney has everything to do with it when the context was a response to someone believing the buyout came with a "no theatrical cuts clause", which Disney absolutely wouldn't agree to regardless of whether anyone actually had plans to release them.
That's how I felt watching through the despecialized editions recently. Though the lightsaber duel still looks better than a lot of the prequels stuff. There are some things that don't look great in HD -- Vader's helmet has, like, smudges on it in some scenes. There are some muppet-y looking aliens in the cantina but other than the musicians I don't think any of them are that jarring.
molnizzle
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He's talking about the deal to sell Lucasfilm to Disney. Disney wouldn't have accepted a deal that limited their access to the OT. That shit doesn't even make sense, it'd be unprecedented.
You lack common sense if you truly believe that theatrical OT editions aren't coming at some point. Even GL himself caved on that with the DVD LE's.
It will happen. It's just a matter of when.
Bobby Roberts
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I believe he said "as much as on any other film," not "more."
Considering the creative freedom afforded him to make films as different (and as good) as Brick, Brothers Bloom, and Looper, that he has the same creative freedom on The Last Jedi should be enough to quiet the "Disney Disney Disney Disney Disney" bullshit, though.
Yup.
The OT absolutely looks dated. I'm not even sure how it's debatable. They're clearly older movies.
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