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Polygon: COD WWII’s ‘diversity’ is nothing more than marketing

Chumley

Banned
From SolidSnakex in the other thread:

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Simply epic.

So Polygon straight up lied. Activision could sue them for libel for this, right?
 

Wedzi

Banned
I'd bet people were still playing Halo 3 on Xbox 360 in 2012. In fact, at this very moment, I'd bet there are people doing it right now.

No shit sherlock. Just an odd game to point out is all when you're trying to time stamp a past conversation.
 

Jameson

Member
Seriouly? Polygon has always been a biased piece of shit site and I also own a PS3 and PS4 and I am old enough to remember all there biased articles towards the PS3. I love playing video games and hate Polygon. There biased agenda they pushed years ago earned them allot of Xbox gamers.
You made a bad joke, stop trying to justify it with fake facts.
 

double jump

you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
This seems like a perfect example of when liberals take good intentions too far and start telling minorities how they should feel.
 

NexusCell

Member
Sites like Polygon are the reason why attempts to implement diversity get such a bad rep. They constantly rail against a lack of diversity but will just the same try to dismiss an actual diverse presence in games to fit their agenda.

Fuck Polygon.
 
I honestly expected it to be a Ben "Fart in the Wind" Kuchera article before clicking on the link.

I guess it is refreshing to see that they at least make sure their standards for writers are uniform at least!
 
I know we need to have the obligatory hate-boner for Polygon, but it seems pretty clear that their use of "all-white production" is referring to the reveal event and not the production of the game itself.
 

ponpo

( ≖‿≖)
The only argument I can see for the Polygon article is that they would like to the non white / non male protagonists put into the situations that they actually would have been in at the time, rather than "soldier x is now black instead of white" or "french resistance party liaison is now girl instead of boy." Night Witches mission where?

Still, the article is so whiny and dismissive that even that point is lost.
 
Lame article, but hearing the stories that my friend told me about working at Sledgehammer, I'd 100% believe that they have no idea what diversity means.

I'm not looking for diversity in a WW2 game. I just want historical accuracy and good gameplay.

..... does anyone ever stop to think about this statement before they make it? For one.... life is diverse.

For two: you're fucking assuming that diversity means shitty gameplay simply because it is diversity. That cop out attitude can fuck right off.

For three, what does historical accuracy have to do with diversity? Do you think that they are going to have mech warriors or some shit because robots are underrepresented in war games or something?

Maybe one of your squad is gay. Maybe he's Middle-Eastern. Maybe your character is black. Maybe he has flashbacks to times with his wife back home. Maybe there is an important non-white and/or non-male refugee or nurse or whatnot. The point is that you just jumped on the word diversity and made the assumption that this game would be Call of Duty: Inclusion Edition, Pre-Order for Rainbows (actual thing said to me once lol).
 

xch1n

Member
Actual issues:

The contributions of non-white soldiers in most of US history (and other countries, too, maybe) have been downplayed in history books and media.

The underrepresentation of non-white, non-male characters and protagonists in games (and movies and ...).

Non-issues:
A tease reveal not showing every possible character in an assumed roughly 8 hour campaign and the size of their roles and contributions to the story

Outrageous article making *that* headline on *this* day when a publisher has a person of color (unfortunately rare in games and tech in general) present the game is irresponsible and inexcusable. Come November write all the pieces you want about those actual issues. This is *actually* filler outrage clickbait trash that is a textbook example of what is wrong with internet ad-based journalism. But I bet that article got more clicks than every other thing they published about Call of Duty today.
 

Iacobellis

Junior Member
This is a slippery slope, let's not go there.

I'm serious though. Activision and all developers under the Call of Duty umbrella were getting flack for years because the series strayed too far away from what made it great in its heyday. Now they've seemingly
gone back to that and you have Polygon looking for something brand new to complain about.
 

RDreamer

Member
I'm not looking for diversity in a WW2 game. I just want historical accuracy and good gameplay.

Bullshit. A historically accurate WW2 game would be boring as hell compared to the blockbusters people are used to. You want to take out only maybe a couple people and then get shot and bleed out? As far as historical accuracy, though, women and people of color absolutely were in WW2.

Actual issues:

The contributions of non-white soldiers in most of US history (and other countries, too, maybe) have been downplayed in history books and media.

The underrepresentation of non-white, non-male characters and protagonists in games (and movies and ...).

Non-issues:
A tease reveal not showing every possible character in an assumed roughly 8 hour campaign and the size of their roles and contributions to the story

Outrageous article making *that* headline on *this* day when a publisher has a person of color (unfortunately rare in games and tech in general) present the game is irresponsible and inexcusable. Come November write all the pieces you want about those actual issues. This is *actually* filler outrage clickbait trash that is a textbook example of what is wrong with internet ad-based journalism. But I bet that article got more clicks than every other thing they published about Call of Duty today.

This here is a good post.
 
You made a bad joke, stop trying to justify it with fake facts.
Joke and fake facts, gaming on multiple platforms you meet all types of people some have biased points of views others don't. Polygon gave Last Of Us a 7.5 rating and I could not convince my friend to try it out. I would often Switch from playing Halo 3 and Last Of Us. Two of my favorite multiplayer games. What is fake or a joke? I learned about Polygon from a friend on Xbox 360 checked there content and found it be extremely toxic and biased.
 

Skux

Member
I know we need to have the obligatory hate-boner for Polygon, but it seems pretty clear that their use of "all-white production" is referring to the reveal event and not the production of the game itself.

The game being revealed by white guys has no bearing on the actual content of the game.

It seems silly to even talk about this. They're reveal events, not the actual product. The five white dudes on stage showing off a game at E3 or a live stream event cannot (and is not supposed to) be a statement about the diversity of the staff at a studio or the characters in a game.

It's truly grasping for straws when the races and genders of the people standing on stage for a video game reveal are politicised in this fashion.
 
I'm serious though. Activision and all developers under the Call of Duty umbrella were getting flack for years because the series strayed too far away from what made it great in its heyday. Now they've seemingly
gone back to that and you have Polygon looking for something brand new to complain about.

Video game criticism was in it's infancy. There wasn't a lot of people thinking about diversity and culture back then.
 

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
Polygon is one of the worst sources out there. What a poorly sourced take....On par for the course. Garbage bin "journalism".
 
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