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Nintendo confirms no live E3 presentation this year
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One thing that's interesting about the live vs. Digital Event format is that I would probably never send one of my more casual friends the recording of a press conference as a way of showing them what's coming to Switch, but a well-produced, tight "direct to you the consumer" type of video is something I would consider sending.
A press conference just doesn't strike me as consumable to the average consumer. It's great for enthusiasts and industry folk, though.
A press conference just doesn't strike me as consumable to the average consumer. It's great for enthusiasts and industry folk, though.
Randomizer123454444
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I always thought that E3 was chance for Nintendo to reach out for people outside their normal fanbase. The ones that will not actively follow Directs and stuff.
But I guess Nintendo does what Nintendo wants to do. I hope it works out for them.
But I guess Nintendo does what Nintendo wants to do. I hope it works out for them.
Oh TV, yeah that i agree. I'd say it's mostly because they usually have very very short news and can't make space for "special interest entertainment" all the time.
I was referring to online publications like SPON, FAZ and even regional newspapers like WAZ, who regurlaly report on gaming news, big new releases and WAZ even has a recurring 2 pager for all things gaming, where i often find things from a (bigger) Nintendo Direct mentioned, too.
(BILD, too, of course, but i hate this and only see gaming mentioned when my father bought this "newspaper")
This, too. I think Directs are also a considerably faster and better way to integrate social media etc. into your messaging. Chop the trailers out with some explanation, boom: short overview of the next big game for FB and Twitter.
And everyone will probably agree that the Switch live event didn't go very well, the best parts were the trailers and the prerecorded videos showing joycon capabilities.
SporeCrawler
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They have been doing that for years now so i dont feel surprised. It saves them money and the directs usually are more fun. At the end of the day it comes down to the content anyways. Live conferences like E3 2008 dont need to happen.
Also did they say anything about treehouse?
Also did they say anything about treehouse?
SinCityAssassin
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I don't understand how this would be any different because these events aren't televised anymore. It's all streamed. A Digital Event in that aspect is no different than watching a conference streamed from E3. They're streaming a live tournament instead as well as days of gameplay footage right after the Direct.
Also Nintendo literally has physical presence at E3, you know. They're one of the biggest floor spaces there.
Jawbreaker
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Why not just send them trailers for specific games?
You are aware of the floor plan for E3, where people can go and play the actual games?
Possumowner
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Yup, absolutely fine with this,just Gimmie them games
Shambalakan
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That's what I typically do, and trailers are definitely the best way to recommend individual games. One problem, however, is that so many trailers are cinematics and don't give info about what the game actually is, what it includes, etc. I find lots of trailers are not particularly effective at communicating the game (rather than the "experience" or narrative), and there might be even less information communicated to someone who is unfamiliar with franchise traditions, typical genre mechanics, etc. So I might accompany trailers with my own explanation/summary of what a game is about, how it plays, etc. Digital Events in the past have done a pretty good job of showing gameplay, explaining the concept, etc., similar to how live demos or segments during a press conference do.
With my post, I was mostly thinking about the possible case where I have a friend who bought a Switch but wants an overview of what's coming. In a situation like that, I'm still not 100% sure I would send a Digital Event (depends on how long the video is and how entertaining it is), but I do know I would likely never send a press conference.
Few outside the normal fanbases of Sony, Microsoft and the third parties tune in to watch a live press conference which often happen during work hours or at night. Even fewer care about the way they receive such information or the "hype" surrounding things.
If Nintendo's got something to show people will see it, I've yet to see much compelling evidence to suggest that the method they initially show off said stuff impacts that negatively. If you look at Nintendo's Top 5 most popular YT videos you have the Switch Debut that was posted online without a big event surrounding it, an extended Super Bowl Commercial, the first BotW trailer which aired at the beginning of the Treehouse stream last year, and 2 trailers from the January Presentation. I seriously doubt that those two trailers benefitted that much from first being shown at a live conference.
Only thing that matters is their announcements are strong (if there are anny) and it's well presented (and the streaming quality doesn't suck). Nintendo have had both great and awful events in both live and Digital formats.....just hope they won't mess it up this year regardless of the format.
For all we know they'll make their entire E3 about Super Mario Odyssey and it'll be the only game on the show floor as Zelda was (that laser focus on Zelda worked out very well for them in the end...despite the early ranting from fans).
...we might not even get a digital event at E3 if they want to really hype Super Mario Odyssey above all else.
For all we know they'll make their entire E3 about Super Mario Odyssey and it'll be the only game on the show floor as Zelda was (that laser focus on Zelda worked out very well for them in the end...despite the early ranting from fans).
...we might not even get a digital event at E3 if they want to really hype Super Mario Odyssey above all else.
SinCityAssassin
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I'm pretty sure they know that Zelda was a trump card that allowed that scenario to work as well as it did. It's not gonna work twice.
I honestly don't see how a live conference has different reach than Direct outside the fan base. Something like a Superbowl ad or appearance on Jimmy Fallon are the ones that reach beyond, not presser at a geek expo
I never thought about this, but you're totally right. Directs feel more shareable.
Sony's conference last year was quick and too the point, borrowing a similar structure to that of a Nintendo Direct. That kind of structure is made for the people at home watching, not for the journalists and industry people in the seats. I wonder how people feel about that in here? It was not like any other presentation people are posting in here who enjoy the bad moments. Does that make it sterile for anyone? I personally don't think lacking any flaws makes a presentation sterile, pre-recorded or not.
Each company can have their own thing that works for them, but I see more following the Nintendo Direct like structure in delivering information even if it's not pre-recorded.
Each company can have their own thing that works for them, but I see more following the Nintendo Direct like structure in delivering information even if it's not pre-recorded.
BlackAlbatross
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I mean the general presentation of the event, and I wrote "cold", not unfunny.
A live show, furthermore in front of an audience, just seems much more significant and "live" to me than a good pre-recorded skit.
Even a live conference full of mistakes, embarassing moments and boring segments gives me a much more lasting memory than Directs.
Watching the streaming of a E3 conference always feels like an event for me, pre-recorded Nintendo stuff just leave me unimpressed.
This doesn't mean I don't enjoy skits like the one you posted, but the format just feels much more inferior to the live ones to me.
TheSadRanger
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edit: mispost
Randomizer123454444
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Highlighted part:
Because in Nintendo Direct, someone has to put active effort in seeking that event out. For example I have no special interest in Nintendo stuff so I'm not going to actively take out time from my schedule to follow Directs, but I might tune in to E3 Nintendo Stream to watch "What does the next year look like for Nintendo?" because I already have reserved time out of my day for E3 stuff.
Rest below:
Twitch E3 2016 streams got 12 million unique views. Not an irrelevant count of people who are not attending & playing games. Sure of those ~50k attendees year 2016 probably a lot were journalists and similar so their influence should not be ignored.
Source: https://www.retroneogames.com/blog/e32016
I'm just getting this "let people come to us" -vibe from Nintendo which still works as existing Nintendo fanbase is big enough, but eventually that will stop being the case. Because if you don't actively increase your fanbase, it will eventually disappear because of the natural decay (people losing interest etc).
But if attraction of Nintendo brand is higher than the natural decay, good for them and I guess they don't need to actively push themselves on to new people.
I had no idea that people that are not gaming enthusiasts follow E3.
I guess all those people that said no when I asked them if they knew what E3 is were lying.
foxuzamaki
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The general presentation is them fucking showing games, with some skits inbetween sometimes, and skits and unique voices during trailers and such. Its nothing but cold, but apparently some suit standing and talking and then maybe showing a game trailer or a few, while awkwardly pausing for applause is so lively and catches your attention more, and is not "cold" to you.
It's a weird thing some harp on. My 2 best friends don't even know what an E3 is and I have to explain it to them every year.
So expected but still kind of disappointing, their E3 openings were gorgeous but the main conferences themselves had some live problems a lot of times or some content ones others.
Directs + Treehouse are ok, hope they do something special like the muppets one, that one was great, still had some hopes about live conference after the Switch presentation which was handled quite well overall.
Directs + Treehouse are ok, hope they do something special like the muppets one, that one was great, still had some hopes about live conference after the Switch presentation which was handled quite well overall.
AfterTheFall
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A polished Direct sounds good to me. Let's hope it's lean and full of great content.
I'm remembering now I've even asked people that play video games what E3 is and they don't know.
E3 is very much known to game enthusiasts, that's about it. Most people wouldn't know it or TGS unless they lived locally near the events.
Yeah, i don't get this sentiment either. Nothing colder for me than a suit, nervously mumbling about some superlatives on an often pitch black stage, that's overlit in front of huge screens and lighting fixtures.
I mean, i remember directs where they had a skit inside a wool workshop for Yoshi, Shibata playing Phoenix Wright, havin a Yoshi amiibo on the shoulder while smiling into the camera. Directs can be extremely heartwarming while delivering necessary info.
What? It's not any harder to find or put aside time for the E3 direct than it is for a regular press conference. They're almost exactly the same in terms of seeking them out or what's required of you to watch them. If anything E3 directs are typically shorter than press conferences which makes it easier to put aside time for them.
This is an overlooked, accurate post. Especially the bolded.
All we need is news, release dates, info dumps of upcoming games. Switch Reveal was ok, but they still fumbled through it.
Some of y'all on this forum wanting the live conference need to come with a better argument because none of it is really convincing how a web-based event is inferior to a live conference. Yes, the Wii U was the struggle the past 4 years or so but the way the news was presented was very good. They all need to go this digital event format and just have the showfloor for the press and, now, public attendees to play the upcoming games.
hemo memo
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This.
After the reveal I don't want them to do a live conference again and just stick to directs and the treehouse.
SinCityAssassin
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Your main complaint is a Nintendo Digital Event is somehow ONLY obtainable by the Nintendo audience when it's literally not separate from E3. It's all part of the same schedule. It's been in that time slot for years before the switch to Digital Events, how the hell would you need to actively seek it out?
Cipher Peon
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Extremely unhappy about this.
I love the crazy live spectical. When it goes right, hype is through the roof and amplified by the crowd and people watching. When it goes wrong, the same but in reverse.
If we did not have live events, the bizarre world of Konami conferences would never happen. Direct stuff is too ridgid and safe. No room for hilarious mistakes 😃
Direct works for Nintendo and they should continue to improve on how they do it, since Nintendo fans love how it works.
If we did not have live events, the bizarre world of Konami conferences would never happen. Direct stuff is too ridgid and safe. No room for hilarious mistakes 😃
Direct works for Nintendo and they should continue to improve on how they do it, since Nintendo fans love how it works.
hemo memo
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But Twitch is popular becuase people are playing games live. Sony and Microsoft get more coverage for the conference than Nintendo in E3 doing what you say people don't care about.
I think this is Nintendo not knowing how to do a good live conference becuase you know that will be the focus for the media we like it or not.
Nintendo is creating their own fourmla.
SinCityAssassin
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Pretty sure the coverage is generally the same depending on what content is presented, and not what spectacle it's presented with.
We're talking press conferences here, not live sports. Nintendo can sale you their products just fine, without people screaming.
Actually, Nintendo gets both. Screaming Youtubers and saving money at the same time.
Dark Cloud
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Some of these posts in here. Geez you'd think it was 2013 when Nintendo first announced they were doing a direct at E3...
fabricated backlash
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Good. I actively avoid watching press conferences and just watch the trailers afterwards.
Sorry but watching a few ceo and directors blabber a rehearsed script, (jam full of marketing speak and ad keywords) while awkwardly waiting for the fake applause by company plants to kick in, is not my idea of excitement.
There's Treehouse live, which is the best libe broadcast from E3 anyway.
Sorry but watching a few ceo and directors blabber a rehearsed script, (jam full of marketing speak and ad keywords) while awkwardly waiting for the fake applause by company plants to kick in, is not my idea of excitement.
There's Treehouse live, which is the best libe broadcast from E3 anyway.