Sir_Crocodile
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They need TV to get new people watching and where they get a large part of their revenue. It's the most important part of their product.
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April Wrasslin' |OT 2| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!
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They need TV to get new people watching and where they get a large part of their revenue. It's the most important part of their product.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
They're not looking for US growth. We're pretty tapped. You either know of and like wrestling or you don't. Of course they'll keep trying, but global expansion is always the next step in growing a business after national saturation.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Oh shit, Ken Shamrock time.
That fucking ending to the Art Jimmerson fight is probably one of the best endings to a fight I've ever seen.
Cable TV in UK is still growing sadly.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Stop falling for the Liu Kang meme you fucking marks.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
There's no meme, I just think it's fun that this place runs on a single collective opinion and attitude (Bryan Alvarez's, basically). I'm here because wrestling fans exist that aren't the same people you guys have been talking to for years about the same cynical stuff. I'm excited about the global expansion more than anything else, because Raw and Vince have always sucked.
RecRoulette
Member
Sounds like he's OVER, look at the reaction from the fans.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
That's absolutely wrong. The wwf product is stale, so a lot of people who used to watch no longer do.
Instead of trying to fix the root of the issue (their beyond incompetent booking), they've opted to try to expand in other markets. Which is fine, and something they should be doing, but it doesn't change the fact it's less important then shoring up their base.
A tv deal is important but TV watching is going down for the younger age groups:
12-24 age group watch like 15 hours per week.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Yeah, there'll come a point where they'll need to work a live deal with netflix or someone for the weekly shows. We're not there yet though.
SallyIsNow
Banned
🤔
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Sources?
No it doesn't. Always find it weird when some want to make a point they lump everyone in a group.
SallyIsNow
Banned
No one make an OT.
Crowd booing and chanting bullshit cause Ken Shamrock won with an ankle lock. This fucking crowd.
Crowd booing and chanting bullshit cause Ken Shamrock won with an ankle lock. This fucking crowd.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Ratings in 1999 - when they actually had competition - vs ratings now?
Didn't think something so obvious needed a source
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Why do the women smile in every promo photo, while only the guys who are funny smile?
(I know the answer.)
(I know the answer.)
RecRoulette
Member
Saw Miz and Finn in the same picture and thought they were having a match. That's was a scary moment.
(Give us a fake documentary where Miz is playing with legos)
(Give us a fake documentary where Miz is playing with legos)
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Amazing anyone doesn't have him blocked. Only the 17th thread this year he's caused this derail in. Most of them closed because of it!
They will end up fighting
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Ooooh, this is the person who got the Raw ratings thread closed. Should have remembered, will ignore.
excelsiorlef
Member
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Man, I was afraid of this, because it seems like WWE talk always revolves around comparing now to fucking decades ago. Why don't we compare to Memphis, which got the highest ratings in Memphis of anything on TV ever at the time? If anyone ever talked about that, I'd understand the arguments more, but as it is, it's just a jejune comparison to people's only frame of reference in their own lifetime.
What accounts for 1997 TV viewing statistics and habits vs 2017 habits, where everyone is way more into their phone? I barely had working Internet in 1997. How do we measure the distribution of fans from one 2-hour show on Mondays to their entire weekly lineup now? That's why I asked for sources, not just your guessing backed up with "it's obvious."
Sources?
RecRoulette
Member
You can't complain about the derails while celebrating WrassleGaf's BIGGEST MONTH EVER.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
You can't complain about the derails while celebrating WrassleGaf's BIGGEST MONTH EVER.
Didn't celebrate *taps head, smirks*
Sir_Crocodile
Member
What are we celebrating exactly?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
SallyIsNow
Banned
Lol
Russian beergut dad refuses to wear mouthguard. Facing New York beergut dad.
2carny4me
Russian beergut dad refuses to wear mouthguard. Facing New York beergut dad.
2carny4me
Alvarez hates wrestling, and thus so do all of you.
But am I wrong doe
it's a bray wyatt vs randy orton match
in some insane bullshit gimmick
we're already starting at 0 stars MAX
excelsiorlef
Member
Attitude Era was carried on the backs of 3 people: Austin, Rock, McMahon
NWO: Hogan, Hall Nash
Rock n Roll era: Hogan, Warrior, Savage
No superstar not even John Cena comes even close to that mainstream power of Rock or Hogan or Austin.
Amazing periods of wrestling success depends on these once in every second generation stars...
NWO: Hogan, Hall Nash
Rock n Roll era: Hogan, Warrior, Savage
No superstar not even John Cena comes even close to that mainstream power of Rock or Hogan or Austin.
Amazing periods of wrestling success depends on these once in every second generation stars...
Alvarez hates wrestling, and thus so do all of you.
This doesn't make sense.
And I'm not even sure I know who Alvarez is. I think maybe I've heard him on a podcast with Ross or Austin?
But that doesn't even matter. Because opinions are not the same. Even if there is an unsavory, internet-y mindset that some users have that you can't stand. There are still outliers. Yet you lump everyone together in your weird lash-outs. It's strange. You're strange. Stop letting stupid things bother you.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Oh awesome, just noticed NJPW has put up the revpro matches their wrestlers were in at york hall a couple of weeks ago.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Nah, I've fast-forwarded nearly every segment both have been in for years.
(Rest assured, I don't go on the Internet to immediately register my disgust, though.)
Punk could have got close
john cena is a meme literally everywhere
Yep, if you want a true compare it would be what are Raw and Smackdown Ratings compared to USA, Cable and basic cable ratings to see if the decline is higher or lower than the average.
excelsiorlef
Member
He's the closest they got but he's not Rock/Hogan/Austin level.
A meme is not success guaranteed: See Snakes on a Plane
SallyIsNow
Banned
Funny =/= munny
You go on the Internet to immediately register your disgust with the disgust. So much better!
sf2fanatic
Member
Ugh @ the house of horrors spoilers and odds for tonight
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
SallyIsNow
Banned
Link?
you don't even watch the product?
friends, even Liu Kane Baking A Pie doesn't watch the live entertainment vehicle WWE live.
odds are mostly bullshit unless its like 10 minutes before the match you dumb mark
Bluekaveli
Member
Of course wwf is stale, animals are boring.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
I'm starting the PPV at 9:30 sharp to allow myself to FF half of it. I do this most of the time, and I recommend it!you don't even watch the product?
friends, even Liu Kane Baking A Pie doesn't watch the live entertainment vehicle WWE live.